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Memoirs of a Steroid Kingpin, Episode 06: “Steroid Source Forums”

January 16, 2023 by Ryan Root 14 Comments

Internet source forums

Phantom Gym was a small community of people interested in physical fitness with a section dedicated to anabolic steroids. Phantom Gym did not specifically designate users who sold anabolic steroids as a “source”, like iSteroids did. Users were free to make a text-based post in a source section to attract potential clients. I had a list with contact information and ordering instructions saved onto my computer from my attempt to list on iSteroids, so I posted that list in the source section of Phantom Gym.

Black market anabolic steroid users are very particular about the sources and the products that they use. Years of fraud and fake products have disenchanted the demographic into believing that any unproven source was certain to be a scam. There existed an infectious anxiety in the underground black market, and people would inexorably respond to this anxiety with anger and intolerance to any new source that claimed to have legitimate products to sell. This was no different for me. Immediately upon posting as a source, I was inundated with harborings of distrust, suspicion, and skepticism.

One Phantom Gym member demurred, “(sigh)… Here we go again. Do you have any lab work or any proof that your gear is legitimate?” Black Market users referred to the anabolic steroids that they used as “gear”. Another posted, “You are another one of these trolls here to scam us. Can we stop these scammers from posting?”

Another posted, “You are another one of these trolls here to scam us. Can we stop these scammers from posting?”

Scam alert

This reaction wasn’t unique to Phantom Gym. Although most people on these forums expressed antipathy and animus, a few more prudently and productively requested information that would lead to verification and trust. One such person posted, “Do you have anyone who can vouch that they have received products from you and that they are legitimate? If not, I will take some free samples and post a review.”

Now we were getting somewhere productive. Serendipitously, two of the three brand ambassadors from iSteroids, to whom I sent samples for review, were also members of Phantom Gym. Therefore, they would review on iSteroids and Phantom Gym. In response to sending more free samples to a Phantom Gym member, I wrote, “I understand the virulence associated with new potential sources, and the specter of being the victim of fraud. I have sent samples to a few members of this community who will review the products once they are received and tested. I understand how important peer reviews are in establishing trust. Therefore, in addition to the samples I have already sent, I will send one more free sample to a member of this community’s choosing. Because I am not aware of whose assertions you will trust the most, I would like you, as a community, to pick one member for me to send samples for a review. Let me know when you pick the ambassador.” Not only was this a good way to choose the best person for which to send samples, but it also was a good use of crowd sourcing, allowing the audience to participate in the development of the business, making them feel like a part of a growing brand. This new concept of incorporating customers into the decision-making process of a business is a powerful tool, and can make customers feel like they part of something bigger than themselves, which serves to develop deep seeded loyalty. I didn’t realize it at the time, but this type of implementation would turn out to be an advanced branding strategy.

“If you are a legitimate source, then you should have a huge supply of steroids.”

Trust

Another person posted, “If you are a legitimate source, then you should have a huge supply of steroids. Send a pic of your entire inventory. I would only consider you a legit source if you had at least twenty-five vials.” This made sense. I just happened to have recently received a large order in preparation for this very launch. This guy wanted to see twenty-five vials? I would show him fifty.

I stacked fifty vials up on my desk in my office. It was a massive tower-o-roids. I was proud of this monumental display of power before me. I took a pic and uploaded it to the site. I thought this was such a good idea, that I also posted this pic onto iSteroids.

I had decided not to use the website that was being hosted by my computer to become an approved source on iSteroids. I would wait until a secure hosting site could be procured. I knew I wasn’t allowed to promote myself as a source on iSteroids until I became an approved source, but a few pictures to start the marketing and branding process wouldn’t hurt. Relatively quickly, the pic of the tower-o-roids began inviting comments. None of the comments were negative, of course, I wasn’t promoting as a source, it was just a pic of a massive quantity of steroids. People don’t present enmity to harmless pictures. Some of the comments indicated approval of British Dragon products. A discussion broke out about the history of British Dragon and how the old company no longer exists, but the new company using the British Dragon name has quality products.

A discussion broke out about the history of British Dragon and how the old company no longer exists, but the new company using the British Dragon name has quality products.

British Dragon Pharmaceuticals - new vs. old

Despite my intentional and knowing actions to refrain from promoting myself as a source, I still received a Private Message (PM) from a Moderator. The message stated, “This is starting to look like a promotional post. You have to be an approved source before you can promote on iSteroids.” This was a different Moderator than the one I spoke with last time. He obviously didn’t know that I understood the rules, and I was actively intending to follow them. My reply message indicated that I had spoken with the Administrator, I was in the process of becoming an approved source, and that I had would not promote myself until I was permitted.

Another person commenting on the post indicated that I could have downloaded that picture from the internet. He wanted me to post the same picture with a copy of the current day’s newspaper to prove it was a recent picture. Damn, now I had to go buy a newspaper and restack my tower-o-roids…


I woke up late, which was normal, because I stayed up late. I could never drift into slumber until two or three in the morning. I didn’t have to work until 3:00pm. I worked the 3pm – 11pm shift in the Emergency Room at one of the local hospitals. I generally woke up at around 11am, got ready, went to the gym in my scrubs, took a shower, and went directly to work. I was about to prepare for the day, but first, I would check on my newly forming business. I was looking to see if there was anything that needed comment, or clarification, so I could continue building a name for myself. I went to Phantom Gym, and there were no new comments or reactions. Phantom Gym was much smaller than iSteroids, and it usually took a few days for people to comment on any posts; whereas, iSteroids had such massive traffic, that comments and discussion on posts occurred very quickly and continuously. I hopped on over to iSteroids, to read any further comments on the one picture I had posted. When I entered the section where people upload, and comment on, pictures of “gear”, or anabolic steroids; I saw a new picture of my products, posted by someone else, with the caption “Received my order from BDSupplements in two days! Looks great!” – for thousands upon thousands of people to see.

Next >>: Episode 07 (Before the Storm)


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Avatar of B Ware B Ware Jan 08, 2023 #1

@bdsupplements thank you sir for putting this together. It is a very intriguing read.

Sometime back I got a source to open up to me a little behind the scenes about how his empire came to be. Being that I’m a guy that falls a sleep every night to a good documentary and that this topic hits close to home being that I’ve been a member of these boards a decade, this is a truly fascinating topic to me. I’ve often let my mind wander off and picture a night sitting around a camp fire with big sources of the past and present and just sitting back and listening to their stories. Although there is no camp fire, thank you very much for sharing and opening up. Much respect for over coming everything and turning this into a legal business. I look forward to the next installments.

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Avatar of bdsupplements bdsupplements Jan 12, 2023 #2

Thank you very much for your support B Ware. I really appreciate you. Interestingly enough, the movies and stories I enjoy the most are documentaries as well, especially tales of rags to riches. I was so captivated by movies such as Wolf of Wallstreet and War Dogs, that I began framing my own story in this fashion in my head, and thought about it the whole time I was in prison. When I was finally released from prison, and I began opening up on some of these boards, Millard asked me if I would be interested in writing my story. I had been writing it in my head for years. It was a no brainer. Putting it on paper, it just flowed. When I commenced delving back into the intricate details, I began remembering aspects that were forgotten. I have had fun recounting everything, and candidly, this story has come out better than I expected. Thanks again for reading.

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Avatar of Millard Millard Jan 12, 2023 #3

I'm really glad you agreed to do this. There hasn't been any other former source who has been so open and prolific in describing their experience, success, downfall, and rebirth. Thank you.

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Avatar of bdsupplements bdsupplements Jan 13, 2023 #4

Thank YOU Millard. I had a client today, whom I was helping design a treatment protocol, tell me that he has been reading the story on MESO. He said it was fantastic, and he couldn't wait to read the rest of it. Thanks again for helping tell this epic story.

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O Obscured78 Jan 15, 2023 #5

Curious what was the name of your lab?

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Avatar of Millard Millard Jan 15, 2023 #6

View image at the forums

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Avatar of bdsupplements bdsupplements Jan 16, 2023 #7

Nice Millard! I am surprised at how many pics of my gear are still on the internet. That brings back some memories!

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Avatar of GMC GMC Jul 27, 2023 #8

What’s happened to the rest of it? I was really enjoying the read.
I’ve been waiting for Ep 20 since March.

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B BUCK67 Jul 29, 2023 #9

Same here, I thought the rest got deleted or something and I was missing out on the rest

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Avatar of GMC GMC Jul 29, 2023 #10

I’m hoping somebody in Hollywood has picked up on the story, and wants to make the movie - and don’t want it fully publishing before they get their hands on it!!
It’s a awesome story, if I was a producer I’d be jumping right on it with him.
I’m just listening/watching to some podcasts with him, he look the part too - he’s like a cross between the ‘rock’ & what Vin Diesel always wanted to be!! Seems like a top guy, I hope he makes a (another) fortune from it - and he deserves every penny!

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Avatar of bdsupplements bdsupplements Aug 04, 2023 #11

Thank you very much for your kind words GMC! I really appreciate you. I am not sure what happened to the rest of the chapters, there is a lot more left. I am guessing that Millard became busy, and hasn't had the time to release more chapters. Perhaps I can speak with him.

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Avatar of phenominal34 phenominal34 Aug 04, 2023 #12

I quit reading the top original post after “I put on 32lbs of muscle in 5 weeks”

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Avatar of bdsupplements bdsupplements Aug 04, 2023 #13

In our community, we have been plagued with the cynicism that reportrs of people putting on 30lbs of muslce or more lack veracity. Another concept that I have noticed plagues our community is people's inabilty to see outside their own self centricity. Prople believe that whatever reactions happen to them or a couple of their gym buddies, is exactly how everyone else reacts; whether it be exercise regimens or hormones. This narrative fallacy that no one can put on 30lbs of muslce or more stems from a subset of cynicists who aren't able to put on that kind of muslce mass themselves, so, not only do they claim that no one else can put on 30lbs of muslce or more, but they make fun of those who make this claim. Of course, others who cannot put on that type of muscle mass jump on this band wagon. The cynics have also convinced people who do gain more than 30lbs that it is not muscle, but they are given a facile explaination that weight gain is due to water weight and/or glycogen.

When we talk about not being able to see outside your self-centricity; I am a biochemist who has guided approximately 20,000 people through the use of hormones. A thousand of those were professionals I helped put on stage. I have aggregated as much, if not more, empirical and anecdotal data than almost anyone in the county. I only say that to illuminate my credentials and vast experience.

Certainly, anabolic steroids can cause edema in the form of water retention in the dermis. For some, very little water is retained in the dermis, for others, significant water is retained in the dermis. For some, water retention is not a significant source of weight gain. Muscle gain is a function of fluids enlarging the muscle cell. A significant portion of that fluid is water. But, that is a part of muslce gain. The increased size from fluid in the muscle cells allows for myosin to have a stronger dipole action on actin, increasing the strength of the contraction.

Glycogen is a back up instant energy source to glucose. Glycogen is located in the liver and in muscles. One of the reasons muscles increase in size is to accomodate more glycogen for more energy and more strength. Gaining glycogen weight in the muscles is a function of gaining muscle weight, and is one of the reasons you get stronger. Even so, muslce glycogen doesn't weigh much. On average, about 500g of glycogen exists in the human muscles. Even if you double the size of your muscles, you only gain about a quarter pound of glycogen weight.

For those who believe it is impossible to gain 30lbs of muscle or more; bullshit. Granted, it is a small subset of hyper responders than can gain that much muscle mass. I am a hyper responser. I have seen some genetically gifted guys take a moderate dose of testosterone and dbol, lose fat and gain 30, 40, even 50lbs and still be so lean they could immediately step on stage. One thing you realize when you accrue a vast array of data in this field of study, is that you cannot put everyone in a box. You cannot indicate certain limits and certain ranges for everyone. There is a massive disparity in the way each individual reacts to certain hormones, certain compounds, and certain protocols. Admittedly, I have been a victim of disbelief in the past. But I have seen, with my own eyes, bodybuilders go on drug benders, get fat, lose muslce to atrophy, clean up and put on 50 pounds of muslce, and look ready to step on stage in two months. It is not common, but some people are genetically gifted, and to deny that is to deny some pretty incredible stories and some pretty incredible truths.

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Avatar of phenominal34 phenominal34 Aug 05, 2023 #14

You can cherp these long ass paragraphs all you want, no one is putting on 30 lbs of muscle in 5 weeks, 35 days. Cool story tho lol

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