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Primobolan Depot (Methenolone Enanthate)

Anabolic Solutions Primobolan Depot

by Bill Roberts – Primobolan Depot (methonolone enanthate) is often of interest to beginning steroid users and sometimes to experienced users. The first question to consider is really not pharmacological but one of economics. Usually for any given level of effect, Primobolan is an unusually expensive choice. And for most users, there is no unique benefit gained from its use. Accordingly, most experienced steroid users do not include it in their steroid cycle planning.

Primobolan Depot Not a “Weak” Steroid

That said, contrary to common opinion, Primobolan really is not a weak steroid, at least not on a milligram for milligram basis. It certainly is not weak in terms of anabolic effect versus side effects. It is a good performer in these regards. However, because the oil solubility of methenolone enanthate is only moderate, preparations are typically of only 100 mg/mL. This can give a psychological impression of not being as strong a compound as more concentrated products.

Another likely reason for perceived weakness is that it is most often used for anabolic steroid cycles which deliberately are very conservative. For example, a classic beginner cycle is 400 mg/week Primobolan as the only steroid used. Of course, this does not give extreme gains. But then again neither does 400 mg/week testosterone!

With most anabolic steroids or anabolic steroid stacks, total use needs to be at least 500 mg/week and more preferably 700-1000 mg/week before a cycle is likely to be highly effective. This rule is no different when Primobolan is used as the sole anabolic steroid or as part of a performance-enhancing stack (combination of drugs.)

Primobolan Depot Stacks

Primobolan presents an interesting situation with regard to stacking. Pharmacologically there is probably no difference in stacking behavior compared to Masteron, and certainly no important difference, but in practice those who wish to use Primobolan almost always are looking for mild stacking choices as well. For this reason, though Dianabol, Anadrol, or testosterone are effective stacking choices, they usually are not combined with Primobolan.

Primobolan and HCG

For those wishing a mild steroid cycle, perhaps the best performance-enhancing drug to combine with Primobolan is not another anabolic steroid directly, but HCG at doses totalling approximately 1500 IU/week. This may be taken as, for example, 200 IU daily, 400 IU every other day, or 500 IU three times per week. This typically yields high-normal testosterone levels and maintains normal estrogen levels, aiding the effectiveness of Primobolan with relatively little added androgenic side effects. Such usage may be counted as comparable to injecting 100 mg/week testosterone, and so for example 500 mg/week Primobolan use combined with this amount of HCG may be considered comparable to 600 mg/week total usage of anabolic steroids.

For those seeking to absolutely minimize effect on hair in skin, addition of this amount of HCG may be excessive. Because more moderate testosterone levels are desirable in such instances, the HCG dose should be reduced to a total of only 700-750 IU/week. Further, the amount of Primobolan should be kept to no more than 400 mg/week, as Primobolan itself also has effect on hair and skin.

Primobolan and Trenbolone

An alternate situation, not commonly seen, is where a cycle is trenbolone-based but rather than using a relatively high dose of trenbolone, the athlete limits the dose of that drug and uses another non-aromatizing injectable to support it. The combination can be milder in side effects while being still equally effective, at least in terms of anabolism, to higher-dose trenbolone. While Masteron is a more cost-effective choice for this purpose, Primobolan also will work well in this situation.

Primobolan Depot Recommendations

The half-life of methenolone enanthate is probably about 5 days. As a result, Primobolan is most effectively used when injected at least twice per week. At the 400 mg/week usage level, post-cycle therapy (PCT) may be started only 5 days after the last injection, whereas at a higher level of usage such as 1000 mg/week, at least 10 days will be needed until recovery is likely to become possible.

Primobolan Depot Does Not Convert to Estrogen or DHT

Methenolone is not subject to metabolism by the 5-alpha reductase enzyme (5AR), nor the aromatase enzyme. It therefore does not convert to DHT or to estradiol. These are among the advantages of the compound. However, its lack of conversion to DHT does not mean that it has no effect on the scalp: all anabolic steroids do.

Briefly, Primobolan is an effective injectable anabolic steroid that usually is expensive for the anabolic effect achieved, is most commonly used for mild cycles, and in most – but not all – cases is an inefficient choice for more advanced cycles.

Methenolone enanthate is the chemical name of active ingredient in Primobolan. Primobolan was a registered trademark of Schering AG in the United States and/or other countries prior to cancellation.

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About the author

Bill Roberts
Medicinal chemist

Bill Roberts is an internationally-recognized expert on anabolic steroids and performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). He received a bachelor degree in Microbiology and Cell Science and completed the educational and research requirements for a PhD in Medicinal Chemistry at a major American university.

Bill entered the nutritional supplement industry prior to completing his doctoral thesis but his education was invaluable so far as being able to design/improve nutritional supplement compounds, since it was in the field of designing drug molecules and secondarily some work in transdermal delivery.

His education was not specifically "geared" toward anabolic steroids other than expertise with pharmacological principles having broad applications. This has allowed Bill to provide unique insight into the field of anabolic pharmacology with knowledge of points which he would not have known otherwise.

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F Flathead Fred Apr 05, 2021 #1

I posted this in another thread but curious as to why Bayer would overfill their Rimo amps 20% over, not complaining but I figured 10% would be the industry standard.

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Avatar of Millard Millard Apr 08, 2021 #2

This Primobolan profile is a greatly expanded version of the original profile published 20 years ago at How to Use Primobolan Depot - MESO-Rx

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Avatar of HUSH HUSH Apr 25, 2021 #3

By far my favorite compound. I love Primo!!!!

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Avatar of Silentlemon1011 Silentlemon1011 Apr 25, 2021 #4

Gotta love the Primo
Such a great compound.
You can see such great effects anywhere from 200mg all the way past 1g.

Versatile and amazing

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Avatar of tenpoundsleft tenpoundsleft Apr 27, 2021 #5

Running it myself now - around 400 per week - pricey but good stuff

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Avatar of Jestopherson Jestopherson Apr 27, 2021 #6

Man can't wait to run my cruise/cut with 200mg. Looking forward to maintaining my fullness

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Avatar of Aftermath9716 Aftermath9716 Apr 27, 2021 #7

The late and great Rich Piana says primo is a weak ass drug those who run it is it worth it? How many mgs per week u take for growth?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnBSCKF26_M

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Avatar of MisterSuperGod MisterSuperGod Apr 27, 2021 #8

Though I've never had the pleasure, it is regarded as one of the better weapons in our arsenal for slowly adding quality weight without the water.

However it isn't uncommon to see posts where users advocate 800-1000 mg per week. Either they're subscribing to the more is better approach and abusing the drug or these dosages are typical for best effect, which would lend credence to Rich's statement.

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l lilhawk Apr 27, 2021 #9

You don't need 800-1000mg of primo to see excellent results. I've never used over 500mg and love the results it gives. It's actually probably my favorite drug.

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Avatar of Test_Subject Test_Subject Apr 27, 2021 #10

Rich also died at 46, so I tend to not listen to his advice. I don’t mean that in a mean way. I just mean that I plan on dying an old man.

Primo isn’t a good drug if you want to put on mass like now and love to slam tren by the gram, but if you want good gains with a safe pharmaceutical profile, you could do worse.

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Avatar of Eman Eman Apr 27, 2021 #11

If you're comparing primo to tren, then yeah... Pretty weak. But you could say that about a lot of things in comparison to tren.

Primo gives a way better look, IMO. Tren looks synthetic and freaky. Primo makes you look great in a much more natural way. It's way slower than tren... You'll run it and forget you're taking anything until one day you'll look in the mirror and think "wow".

Aside from killing hair, I've never noticed any sort of sides or diminishing returns.

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Avatar of EazyE EazyE Apr 28, 2021 #12

With primo I found 400mg weekly was a nice addition to a cycle. Slow but steady quality builder. The results kind of sneak up on you. Better than EQ. You just feel good on it.

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Avatar of HUSH HUSH Apr 28, 2021 #13

Well RIP Rich but I think he let the Slin get the best of him. Primo is an amazing compound especially when used at the right time. Once you get fairly lean that is when Primo shows its ass off. I know people that run Primo like TRT once a week. Me personally I like to keep Primo in the mix like that as well.
If it is a weak as drug then why is it the most counterfeited AAS of them all and the raws are so expensive. Of course Rich would say that when you are running Slin like he was you don't need Primo but lets look at the facts. Slin can kill you and Primo can't.

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M M@NU Apr 29, 2021 #14

wtf are you talking for a bunch of nonsense with the slin?
Slin only kills you if you hve no clue what you are doing. Slin is a useful addition to any cycle, even to trt at low dosages pre workout (5-8iu).
DOnt know where your hatred for slin comes from?

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Avatar of HUSH HUSH May 05, 2021 #15

No hatred for SLIN just stating that SLIN can kill you. If you don't eat properly while on it it can kill you. Blood sugar gets to low and you go into a diabetic coma. Just a fact man sorry you got offended.

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Avatar of Silentlemon1011 Silentlemon1011 May 05, 2021 #16

I'm not a fan of what slin has done to bodybuilding.
But bro, it's not as dangerous as you're thinking.

Some people have tried suicide attempts with 500 units of slin and survived
Taking a long acting and using like 10 units of log PWO isnt insanely dangerous as a bodybuilder, unless you're pushing crazy amounts

Dangerous, yes... hut youd have to be pretty fucked to go full on, death hypo from 10 or 20 units of log.

I read one story of s girl who ran 400 units to attempt suicide, they got her to a hospital and threw some sugar in her body.... released 2 days later.

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