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The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

December 14, 2017 by Chest Rockwell Leave a Comment

The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

Circulating GH is largely bound with carrier proteins referred to as GHBPs, or growth hormone binding proteins. These carrier proteins are essentially a soluble and truncated form of the extracellular domain of the GHR – mobile circulating GHRs which are not located within cellular membranes, if you will [103]. GH in circulation can also exist as free or unbound and the ratio of bound versus unbound is dependent upon the pulsatile pattern of its secretion [104]. Circulating GH complexes in humans can be comprised of one of two distinct GH molecules (22-kDa and 20-kDa), with roughly 90% being the 22-kDa molecule despite early estimates putting that number much lower [105-106]. Fun fact, modern indirect GH doping test methodologies can actually leverage the real-time ratios of circulating GH molecules within an athlete’s system to determine if someone has used rHGH in the past 24-36 hours prior to the test. The growth hormone molecule, in its correct 22-kDa form, is pictured below [107]:

Growth hormone molecule in its correct 22-kDa form
Growth hormone molecule in its correct 22-kDa form

Ultimately, this circulating GH binds with GHRs, which are class one cytokine receptors expressed in numerous cell-type membranes throughout the body [108-110]. The cellular surface levels, or receptor density, of these GHRs are the primary determinant of GH’s binding affinity to cells. GHR translocation, or the receptor relocating from a cell’s nucleus to its external membrane, is directly inhibited by IGF-1 – which is one of many feedback mechanisms that exist between these tightly related hormones. By inhibiting GHR translocation, IGF-1 directly contributes to lower the responsiveness of these cells to an external GH stimulus [111].

A deep-dive into tyrosine kinase activation, downstream signaling pathways, and gene expression is a bit beyond the scope of this article. So instead we’ll just stick our toes in the water and get them a little wet. I feel that we must touch on some of the high points of intracellular signaling to truly understand the underpinnings of the hypertrophy process, and why there are both compound synergies and potential optimized strategies for maximizing the process.

As mentioned already, GHRs exist on cellular membranes and they exist as preformed and inactive homodimers. This is really just a fancy way of saying the GHR has two identical protein receptor dimers, and these homodimers are always going to be coupled to JAK2 when devoid of enzymatic activity. This coupling to JAK2 causes an overall inhibitory action on the receptor [112-113]. In other words, the GHR lays dormant until it is activated as part of the GH/GHR binding process. When a GH molecule binds to the GHR, a structural change occurs within the GHR that results in actual movement of the receptor’s intracellular domains apart from one another. This relieves that inhibitory action of the JAK2 molecules and allows them to activate one another [114-116].

Next, one GH molecule binds sequentially to one of the two GHR homodimers, and the completion of this binding process facilitates interactions with the second homodimer. After this occurs, the intracellular domains of this newly formed GHR dimer undergo an actual rotation. Rotating the new GHR dimer allows the kinase domains of JAK2 to be in contact with one another, allowing them to transactivate and each subsequently binds to one JAK2 molecule [117-118]. Each JAK2 molecule will then perform cross-phosphorylation (activation) of tyrosine residues, and it is these residues which form “docking sites” for many of the different signaling molecules that make up the downstream signaling pathways, and ultimately lead to gene expression [114,118-120]. One of the more important downstream pathways for our purposes is the JAK-STAT pathway. This pathway is vital for both the hepatic transcription of IGF-1 by GH as well as many of the GH-mediated anabolic processes within skeletal muscle tissue. The vast majority of this complicated section was largely just background, so we could simply get to this last point.

Okay, my apologies, as I suppose it was our entire leg that just got wet and not only our toes. In any event, let’s take time to exhale for a moment while we move away from signaling pathways and go back to some higher level information for a bit…

A Primer on IGF-1

We’ve previously gone over both the history and timeline by which GH and IGF-1 were discovered. However, I’d still like to cover some additional ground on the insulin-like growth factor family members to more firmly establish what they are, in addition to their roles in the hypertrophy process. The IGFs are a family of peptides, largely GH-dependent, who mediate many of the growth promoting actions that GH has [121]. The liver is chiefly responsible for all endocrine IGF-1 production, with around 75% being hepatically produced under the regulation of GH [83,122-123]. This assumes there are both sufficient dietary intake and elevated portal insulin levels [124-125]. Autocrine IGF-1 synthesis is also regulated by GH, in addition to other tissue-dependent autocrine factors [126-128].

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #1

@ChestRockwell after reading your new article, the you say "exogenous insulin can also be used to bypass many of the refractory period limitations"

Would you suggest a long acting insulin like lantus if one plans on multiple, more frequent than every 6-8 hours, injections of GH....? Would this lower the refractory period significantly enough to justify every ~4 hour injections?

Oh, and "Most will find the GH ceiling to occur somewhere between 4-8 IUs/day sans insulin"... Do you feel the addition of lantus would increase the overall ability to get "more" out of "more" gh? Meaning, if 4-8iu/day is the "cap" w/o insulin, how would you describe a "balls out" insulin and GH stack (Something like Xiu ofGH would be effective with Y amount of insulin)?

God dammit, one more question to add... You mention SERMS and AIs have a negative effect. What about the addition of a DHT derivative such as proviron or masteron in place to prevent some aromatization?

:)

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #2

I think the refractory periods become more consequential to someone who is not eating between their GH doses. Most are going to be eating pretty regularly and it doesn't take a lot of insulin to resensitize pathways.

With that said, the idea of Lantus is certainly intriguing as it takes much of the guesswork out of the GH/insulin timing protocols. It also tends to help simplify CHO consumption and the risks of hypoglycemia go down. Of course, the flip side of the coin is that having elevated basal insulin levels for 24-36 hours could cause undesired effects. So, there are certainly pros and cons to weigh.

Correct, the addition of exogenous insulin makes my statement obsolete as the ceiling will raise significantly.

Yes, I always recommend controlling estrogen balance using stack design, whenever possible. Just a slight clarification, DHT derivatives to not prevent aromatization, they simply increase the androgens in the body without increasing estrogen, correcting A:E ratios for those that are estrogen sensitive.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #3

Makes sense, Lantus is still such an unknown to most of us...

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #4

I have ample amounts of Lantus that I will be experimenting with during the off-season. I always like to do some self-experimentation on things like this so I'm able to offer my own anecdotes.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #5

I like, in theory, a fusion of Milos and Palumbos theories. Lantus as a base (~20iu/day) and Humalog pre workout as a pulse.

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #6

I'm hopeful that the article shed some light on why the acute timing of insulin may not be nearly as important as it relates to direct hypertrophy effects.

And for this reason, I would probably consider post-workout to be more ideal so that there is no risk for battling hypoglycemia during a workout. In other words, I would use the LOG-type insulin purely for nutrient shuttling alongside a post-workout meal.

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Avatar of Dw725 Dw725 Dec 19, 2017 #7

Great timing for me on this article. I jumped around reading parts here and there, will have to really dig in when I have a min. Thanks @ChestRockwell

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Avatar of fodsod fodsod Dec 19, 2017 #8

Excellent article @ChestRockwell. Very informative and well written. I'm looking forward to the next one on GH and insulin. Even though some of us have a pretty good idea of how to use them together effectively I enjoy reading the actual science behind why it works.

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Avatar of belphegor123 belphegor123 Dec 19, 2017 #9

Thanks for posting this, looking forward to seeing a female specific iteration if that ever comes. You should get Lyle to let you write some female specific PED stuff in the new womens book

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #10

It is funny you mention this as I talk to Lyle often but never thought to offer this up. He's done with the book now so it won't be making it into this version anyhow.

I think that female information is severely lacking, though. So, I'll start brainstorming the best way to approach this and include the missus as well.

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Avatar of master.on master.on Dec 23, 2017 #11

Great article @ChestRockwell

Do GHRPs/peptides have some use for hypertrophy, provided you follow the article (test, deca, slin, meals) guidelines?

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 23, 2017 #12

I think there can be a place for them, yes. However, I do not recommend them (nor use them myself).

My primary concerns are going to be long-term safety of using a product that hyper-charges the pituitary as well as finding a legit source of quality product. There are just countless tales I've come across where the user experience suggests they are not receiving what they are paying for.

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b bob hughes Dec 27, 2017 #13

Very interesting point you made about the importance of using pharmaceutical GH with its rigorous standards instead of generics, despite generics scoring well on serum GH and igf1 testing due to the impurities and by-products. Do you feel that Chinese pharmaceutical GH like say, Ansomone is on par with or not too far behind humatrope, genotropin, Etc? Those humas and genos are not cheap and there's tons of fakes out there.. excellent article by the way..

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D DragoT Dec 27, 2017 #14

@ChestRockwell Is there a bottom line in terms of fat loss when comes to long term exogenous HGH administration? As I have mentioned before, I do take it for 19 months already (while try not to exceed IGF-1 reference range) and combined with very clean nutrition diet and non-bodybuilding exercise routine my BF is currently 9.1% (calipers). At this point I am not sure what is the main contributing factor - HGH or diet or combination of both. Comprehensive blood work is excellent at this point.

I guess intentionally or not I have become a "test subject" in a non scientific study for both "long term use" and "non-Pharma use"... Will keep y'all posted for sure...

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Avatar of Roco Bama Roco Bama Dec 28, 2017 #15

Good job bro. No way someone in your age can be that lean if it wasn't for GH and clean diet.
How much calories are you consuming daily ? I'm planning on putting my mom who is 49 on GH.

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D DragoT Dec 28, 2017 #16

Both my wife and I consume slightly below or equal to maintenance. At this age I personally think will be overkill to have bodybuilding aspirations (although, frankly, with the treasure trove of information here it does not sound far fetched...). What we both find absolutely precious is the reversal (or stale) of some typical aging symptoms - her per-menopusal hot flashes and regular period are in the past, as well as my ED is gone at 5-6 months mark (but I am on TRT as well).

You have seen my other post about nutrition diet. Nothing have changed since I posted... well something did - the difference - from the apeshit keto we went for 6-10 months to carb cycling (wife more than me since she now trains for... well... perhaps I will tell you later next year :-) but if you look her BF chart, you can guess:

View image at the forums

I am stuck at home at present to so much work that literally cannot go to the gym, just walking the dog and hop on treadmill between meetings. Sometimes I have time for some bench weight lifting too (we converted one of the rooms in the house to a "gym"). So, for me just clean home cooked meals where I know what's in it.

I still maintain the biggest enemy of 50+ people are the estrogens and sugars in our food which leads to body fat deposit, which in turn makes life shitty as hell. That's about sums is all.

The main reason of total joy for both of us is the absolutely excellent blood work results. Only one "thing" left to fix -wife's PCOS.

As you see, the lean (or muscle) mass, especially in my case, do not play significant role in terms of metabolism. This is what I was asking Chester at what point HGH will "stop" playing role in BF loss. After all, if HGH the role in lipolysis was indefinite, one might expect to... die at some point since there is a min % of body fat necessary for a human organism to function.

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