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The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

December 14, 2017 by Chest Rockwell Leave a Comment

The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

The IGF family of peptides belong to a large family of over ten structurally similar proteins including IGF-1, IGF-2, insulin, relaxin, and pro-insulin [129]. They are all highly homologous in both structure and function and the metabolic effects of IGF-1 have even been characterized as “insulin-like” due to the similarities, and pathways, they share with one another. IGF-1 has over a 50% amino acid sequence homology with insulin and the IGF-1 receptor has a 60% amino acid sequence homology with the insulin receptor [121,130-131]. The similarities in structure are due to the fact that these peptides evolved from a single precursor molecule found in vertebrates over 60 million years ago [132]. Both IGF-1 and insulin secretion is stimulated by food intake, while being inhibited by fasting [83].

Due to these structural similarities, IGF family members can often bind with one another’s native receptor types [133]. To briefly summarize these cross-binding relationships, the IGF-1 molecule binds with the IGF-1 receptor with the highest affinity, however the IGF-1 receptor also binds with IGF-2 and insulin, but with significantly lower affinities. The IGF-2 receptor binds the IGF-2 molecule with the highest affinity but it also binds IGF-1 with a lower affinity, and it will not ever bind with insulin.

The family of IGF receptors have densities which vary significantly based upon the cell types in which they are present [132]. This is one of the reasons why insulin and IGF-1 can possess differing metabolic actions despite being so structurally similar. Cells such as hepatocytes and adipocytes have many more insulin receptors than IGF-1 receptors. Conversely, vascular smooth muscle cells located in blood vessels have significantly more IGF-1 receptors than insulin receptors.

Since we already did a deep-dive earlier on the chemical underpinnings which occur during GHR activation, I won’t do it again here. But please understand that the IGF family of receptors are also tyrosine kinase activated which, as we now know, leads to phosphorylation of substrates, activation of cellular pathways, and ultimately gene expression and protein synthesis [121]. IGF-1 receptor activation seems to be independent of the isoform from which IGF-1 was produced. Also, please note that both IGF receptor types have been found in human skeletal muscle cells [134].

Serum levels of IGF-1 are stable in healthy adults and there is little variation from day-to-day, or even week-to-week. In fact, looking at an individual’s serum IGF-1 levels can be a pretty decent indicator that one has GH sensitivity issues when compared against well-defined ranges, as corrected for their age and sex [135]. Of course, things like the individual’s overall nutritional state, as well as liver health, must also be considered when trying to decide if actual sensitivity issues exist.

In circulation, IGF-1 exists primarily in a bound state with IGF binding proteins (IGFBPs). The IGFBP superfamily includes six high-affinity proteins dubbed IGFBP-1 through IGFBP-6, as well as a number of lower affinity proteins referred to as IGFBP-related proteins [136]. Nearly 95% of all circulating IGF-1 exists in a bound state, with roughly 75% bound specifically with IGFBP-3 [137]. A small fraction of IGF-1 (normally under 5%) may also exist in the free state, and these unbound molecules importantly act as a negative regulator of GH secretion [104]. The IGFBPs can bind with either IGF-1 and IGF-2, but not insulin [138]

Going a bit further, bound IGF-1 most commonly exists in a 150-kDa ternary complex while in circulation. This ternary complex consists of one molecule each of IGF-1, IGFBP-3, and the acid labile subunit (ALS) – although it can exist in a binary complex with other IGFBPs [139-140]. These complexes serve valuable purposes by increasing the bioavailability of circulating IGFs, extending their serum half-life, transporting the IGFs to target cells, and modulating the interaction of the IGFs with their respective surface cellular membrane receptors [141-144]. For example, in plasma, the ternary complex stabilizes IGF-1, significantly increasing its half-life from less than 5 minutes to over 16 hours in some cases [137].

The IGFBPs normally appear to inhibit the action of IGFs, and this is because they compete with the IGF receptors for IGF binding affinity [145]. This is not always the case though, as IGFBPs are also capable of enhancing IGF actions, potentially by facilitating IGF delivery into the receptors [146]. Although there is a somewhat complex interplay, just remember that the primary role of IGFBPs are to transport IGFs from circulation and into peripheral tissues. Once this has been accomplished, the IGFBPs are released from the binary and ternary complexes either by proteolysis or via binding to the extracellular matrix of the IGF-1 receptor [147]. Once released, the IGF-1 molecules become unbound, active, and believed at this point to become available for action [137,143].

Once in the tissues the IGFBPs modulate IGF’s actions as they have a higher affinity for IGFs than the receptors [148], however they may also exert IGF-independent effects [149]. Some of the direct effects of IGFBPs that have already been elucidated include growth inhibition, direct induction of apoptosis, and modulating the effects of non-IGF growth factors [121].

Alternative splicing of the IGF-1 gene is also known to produce three distinct isoforms in humans which have both direct and indirect actions contributing to the growth promoting effects of IGF-1 [150-151]. Although they are not required for IGF-1 secretion, these isoforms may enhance the actual bioavailability of serum IGF-1 to its receptor [437]. The three isoforms are referred to as IGF-1Ea, IGF-1Eb, and IGF-1Ec. It is worth mentioning here that rodents and fish only possess two isoforms but the article will only be referring to human isoforms, unless otherwise clearly stated, to hopefully keep a confusing topic a little less confusing.

IGF-1Ea is similar to the main IGF isoform expressed by the hepatocytes of the liver and has exon 4 of the mature IGF-1 gene spliced directly to exon 6 [152]. IGF-1Eb is thought to be predominantly expressed in the liver but its role in muscle is still not completely understood [153]. It extends further downstream on exon 5 but only the first 17 aminos of this isoform are identical to those in the final isoform variant which I’ll cover momentarily [154]. This isoform is also thought to be unique to primates as it has not been found in rodents or fish [155].

IGF-1Ec is also referred to as mechano growth factor (MGF) and is named as such due to the fact it is expressed in a manner which responds to mechanical tension and stress [156-157]. Earlier we learned these are two of the primary mechanisms behind the hypertrophy process within skeletal muscle, and we’ll be talking a lot more about MGF as this article goes on. This isoform contains part of exon 5 spliced to exon 6 which results in a frame-shift and this mRNA is translated into an isoform with an alternative 25 aminos at the C-terminus [152]. Rodent IGF-1Eb shares a high homology with human MGF and both are often used interchangeably in the literature [158]. I only mention this because it can become a bit confusing when reviewing the literature on this isoform, especially when hopping back and forth between animal and human models.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #1

@ChestRockwell after reading your new article, the you say "exogenous insulin can also be used to bypass many of the refractory period limitations"

Would you suggest a long acting insulin like lantus if one plans on multiple, more frequent than every 6-8 hours, injections of GH....? Would this lower the refractory period significantly enough to justify every ~4 hour injections?

Oh, and "Most will find the GH ceiling to occur somewhere between 4-8 IUs/day sans insulin"... Do you feel the addition of lantus would increase the overall ability to get "more" out of "more" gh? Meaning, if 4-8iu/day is the "cap" w/o insulin, how would you describe a "balls out" insulin and GH stack (Something like Xiu ofGH would be effective with Y amount of insulin)?

God dammit, one more question to add... You mention SERMS and AIs have a negative effect. What about the addition of a DHT derivative such as proviron or masteron in place to prevent some aromatization?

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #2

I think the refractory periods become more consequential to someone who is not eating between their GH doses. Most are going to be eating pretty regularly and it doesn't take a lot of insulin to resensitize pathways.

With that said, the idea of Lantus is certainly intriguing as it takes much of the guesswork out of the GH/insulin timing protocols. It also tends to help simplify CHO consumption and the risks of hypoglycemia go down. Of course, the flip side of the coin is that having elevated basal insulin levels for 24-36 hours could cause undesired effects. So, there are certainly pros and cons to weigh.

Correct, the addition of exogenous insulin makes my statement obsolete as the ceiling will raise significantly.

Yes, I always recommend controlling estrogen balance using stack design, whenever possible. Just a slight clarification, DHT derivatives to not prevent aromatization, they simply increase the androgens in the body without increasing estrogen, correcting A:E ratios for those that are estrogen sensitive.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #3

Makes sense, Lantus is still such an unknown to most of us...

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #4

I have ample amounts of Lantus that I will be experimenting with during the off-season. I always like to do some self-experimentation on things like this so I'm able to offer my own anecdotes.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #5

I like, in theory, a fusion of Milos and Palumbos theories. Lantus as a base (~20iu/day) and Humalog pre workout as a pulse.

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #6

I'm hopeful that the article shed some light on why the acute timing of insulin may not be nearly as important as it relates to direct hypertrophy effects.

And for this reason, I would probably consider post-workout to be more ideal so that there is no risk for battling hypoglycemia during a workout. In other words, I would use the LOG-type insulin purely for nutrient shuttling alongside a post-workout meal.

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Avatar of Dw725 Dw725 Dec 19, 2017 #7

Great timing for me on this article. I jumped around reading parts here and there, will have to really dig in when I have a min. Thanks @ChestRockwell

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Avatar of fodsod fodsod Dec 19, 2017 #8

Excellent article @ChestRockwell. Very informative and well written. I'm looking forward to the next one on GH and insulin. Even though some of us have a pretty good idea of how to use them together effectively I enjoy reading the actual science behind why it works.

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Avatar of belphegor123 belphegor123 Dec 19, 2017 #9

Thanks for posting this, looking forward to seeing a female specific iteration if that ever comes. You should get Lyle to let you write some female specific PED stuff in the new womens book

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #10

It is funny you mention this as I talk to Lyle often but never thought to offer this up. He's done with the book now so it won't be making it into this version anyhow.

I think that female information is severely lacking, though. So, I'll start brainstorming the best way to approach this and include the missus as well.

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Avatar of master.on master.on Dec 23, 2017 #11

Great article @ChestRockwell

Do GHRPs/peptides have some use for hypertrophy, provided you follow the article (test, deca, slin, meals) guidelines?

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 23, 2017 #12

I think there can be a place for them, yes. However, I do not recommend them (nor use them myself).

My primary concerns are going to be long-term safety of using a product that hyper-charges the pituitary as well as finding a legit source of quality product. There are just countless tales I've come across where the user experience suggests they are not receiving what they are paying for.

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b bob hughes Dec 27, 2017 #13

Very interesting point you made about the importance of using pharmaceutical GH with its rigorous standards instead of generics, despite generics scoring well on serum GH and igf1 testing due to the impurities and by-products. Do you feel that Chinese pharmaceutical GH like say, Ansomone is on par with or not too far behind humatrope, genotropin, Etc? Those humas and genos are not cheap and there's tons of fakes out there.. excellent article by the way..

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D DragoT Dec 27, 2017 #14

@ChestRockwell Is there a bottom line in terms of fat loss when comes to long term exogenous HGH administration? As I have mentioned before, I do take it for 19 months already (while try not to exceed IGF-1 reference range) and combined with very clean nutrition diet and non-bodybuilding exercise routine my BF is currently 9.1% (calipers). At this point I am not sure what is the main contributing factor - HGH or diet or combination of both. Comprehensive blood work is excellent at this point.

I guess intentionally or not I have become a "test subject" in a non scientific study for both "long term use" and "non-Pharma use"... Will keep y'all posted for sure...

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Avatar of Roco Bama Roco Bama Dec 28, 2017 #15

Good job bro. No way someone in your age can be that lean if it wasn't for GH and clean diet.
How much calories are you consuming daily ? I'm planning on putting my mom who is 49 on GH.

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D DragoT Dec 28, 2017 #16

Both my wife and I consume slightly below or equal to maintenance. At this age I personally think will be overkill to have bodybuilding aspirations (although, frankly, with the treasure trove of information here it does not sound far fetched...). What we both find absolutely precious is the reversal (or stale) of some typical aging symptoms - her per-menopusal hot flashes and regular period are in the past, as well as my ED is gone at 5-6 months mark (but I am on TRT as well).

You have seen my other post about nutrition diet. Nothing have changed since I posted... well something did - the difference - from the apeshit keto we went for 6-10 months to carb cycling (wife more than me since she now trains for... well... perhaps I will tell you later next year :-) but if you look her BF chart, you can guess:

View image at the forums

I am stuck at home at present to so much work that literally cannot go to the gym, just walking the dog and hop on treadmill between meetings. Sometimes I have time for some bench weight lifting too (we converted one of the rooms in the house to a "gym"). So, for me just clean home cooked meals where I know what's in it.

I still maintain the biggest enemy of 50+ people are the estrogens and sugars in our food which leads to body fat deposit, which in turn makes life shitty as hell. That's about sums is all.

The main reason of total joy for both of us is the absolutely excellent blood work results. Only one "thing" left to fix -wife's PCOS.

As you see, the lean (or muscle) mass, especially in my case, do not play significant role in terms of metabolism. This is what I was asking Chester at what point HGH will "stop" playing role in BF loss. After all, if HGH the role in lipolysis was indefinite, one might expect to... die at some point since there is a min % of body fat necessary for a human organism to function.

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