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The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

December 14, 2017 by Chest Rockwell Leave a Comment

The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

MGF has been shown in cell culture models to increase the proliferation and migration of myoblasts, as well as being involved in satellite cell activation. Whether or not this is something that translates into real-world applicability is still a source of contention however. This behavior has been seen even in the presence of IGF-1 inactivation, which suggests MGF has the ability to operate independently of mature IGF-1 [438]. With that said, all IGF-1 isoforms do require a functional IGF-1 receptor to actually produce muscle hypertrophy as they do not affect the receptor in the absence of mature IGF-1 [439-440]. Actual response to MGF relies upon having an environment with active pools of satellite cells, as aged muscle tissues are normally in a state of dormancy. Finally, although finding legitimate injectable MGF is almost unicorn-like in bodybuilding circles, understand that full-length MGF appears to produce less activity in muscle than mature IGF-1, so its inherent value to bodybuilders may actually be overestimated [442].

Somatopause

Studying elderly subjects brings a somewhat unique perspective to the table as it is well-known that sarcopenia, another term for degenerative muscle loss, occurs as we age. It is also well-established that levels of secreted GH and circulating IGF-1 gradually decline over one’s lifetime after peaking during puberty [159-162]. The decline in hormone levels is quite severe, with GH secretion declining by as much as 10-15% every decade after the age of 20 [163]. It was suggested many years ago that these senescent changes in body composition and metabolic functions are directly related to the decrease in hormone levels within the GH/IGF axis. The research community has actually coined the term “somatopause” to describe this phenomenon [159,164]

More succinctly stated, the somatopause hypothesis proposal [128] states:

  • Changes in lifestyle and genetic predispositions promote accumulation of body fat with advancing age
  • This increased fat mass increases FFA availability and thus induces insulin resistance
  • High insulin levels suppress IGFBP-1 resulting in a relative increase in free IGF-1 levels
  • Systemic elevations in FFA, insulin, and free IGF-1 suppress pituitary GH release, which further increases fat mass
  • Endogenous GH is cleared more rapidly in subjects with increased fat mass

As you can see, this is a bit of a chicken and egg scenario. We gain body fat as we age, which causes insulin resistance, which suppresses GH secretion, which makes us more fat. It is kind of interesting to see that GH pulse frequency remains essentially intact though. The age-related attenuation is actually just a marked reduction in pulse amplitude alongside increased SRIF secretion [165].

The changes associated with somatopause very much resemble those seen in younger adults with clinical growth hormone deficiency (GHD). Although similar, elderly folks are normally not as severely impacted as GHD individuals and somatopause is not considered a disease state [160,166-167]. Examples of some of the changes associated with somatopause include reduced muscle and bone mass, reduced strength, diminished exercise and cardiac capacity, increased body fat (particularly in the visceral region), and cognitive deterioration.

Because of the desire to reverse the many detrimental effects related to aging, there is widespread speculation that GH administration may help as part of a complete hormone replacement therapy (HRT) program. A complete review of HRT and the elderly is beyond the scope of this article, but those who are interested can find a recent discussion on the topic here [168].

Does Growth Hormone Enhance Athletic Performance?

The emergence of GH as a performance enhancing drug (PED), outside of underground bodybuilding circles, is largely attributed to the release of the now infamous “Underground Steroid Handbook” in the early 1980s [169]. Subsequently, GH hit more of a mainstream audience when 1988 Olympic gold medal winner Ben Johnson admitted to using it alongside AAS after being stripped of his title following a failed blood test [170]. During this era, it was popularly believed that GH would increase muscle mass while simultaneously improving aspects of athletic performance [171]. And, as a response to this belief, in 1989 the IOC banned GH while labeling it as a PED as part of a new doping class of “peptide hormones and analogs”. It banned GH despite there being a lack of a legitimate test for rHGH at the time [172]. Despite all this, the question still remains – even with evidence suggesting that GH has been used in competitive athletics for decades, does it truly provide any measurable performance enhancing effects?

There have actually been multiple systematic reviews that have attempted to answer this question, but unfortunately they have all been far from conclusive as it relates to the ergogenic effects of GH [173-175]. And despite various scandals over the years, as well as the prevalence of GH usage by pro athletes, there is still very little clinical evidence to suggest that GH in isolation has any significant impact on performance enhancement in either healthy adults or younger subjects [173,176-179].

There have been a handful of tightly controlled trials which more directly attempted to look for its impacts on physical performance in healthy and trained subjects. Arguably the most interesting of the bunch demonstrated that supraphysiological doses of GH alongside AAS provided no significant improvements on VO2 consumption, strength, or explosive power as measured by jump height [180]. It did note a slight improvement in anaerobic sprint capacity, which was more noticeable on men and especially in those using the combined treatment. Considering this is an event where fractions of a second could mean the difference between winning and losing, it is certainly something worth noting.

By and large though, no increased aerobic performance is observed with GH administration when looking at the body of literature as a whole. This is the case when GH is administered at physiological doses to healthy subjects [181-182] as well as when it is administered in supraphysiological doses [180,183-184]. Aerobic capacity is also not affected by acute GH administration prior to training [185]. Any and all aerobic performance enhancements by GH actually appear to be mediated via androgens, and this is further supported by the results of a trial demonstrating former AAS users showing increased VO2 max, maximum inspiratory, and maximum expiratory pressure. Although it had been a few months since their last exposure to AAS, this was likely not enough time to entirely rule out any sort of AAS bleed over effect [186].

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #1

@ChestRockwell after reading your new article, the you say "exogenous insulin can also be used to bypass many of the refractory period limitations"

Would you suggest a long acting insulin like lantus if one plans on multiple, more frequent than every 6-8 hours, injections of GH....? Would this lower the refractory period significantly enough to justify every ~4 hour injections?

Oh, and "Most will find the GH ceiling to occur somewhere between 4-8 IUs/day sans insulin"... Do you feel the addition of lantus would increase the overall ability to get "more" out of "more" gh? Meaning, if 4-8iu/day is the "cap" w/o insulin, how would you describe a "balls out" insulin and GH stack (Something like Xiu ofGH would be effective with Y amount of insulin)?

God dammit, one more question to add... You mention SERMS and AIs have a negative effect. What about the addition of a DHT derivative such as proviron or masteron in place to prevent some aromatization?

:)

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #2

I think the refractory periods become more consequential to someone who is not eating between their GH doses. Most are going to be eating pretty regularly and it doesn't take a lot of insulin to resensitize pathways.

With that said, the idea of Lantus is certainly intriguing as it takes much of the guesswork out of the GH/insulin timing protocols. It also tends to help simplify CHO consumption and the risks of hypoglycemia go down. Of course, the flip side of the coin is that having elevated basal insulin levels for 24-36 hours could cause undesired effects. So, there are certainly pros and cons to weigh.

Correct, the addition of exogenous insulin makes my statement obsolete as the ceiling will raise significantly.

Yes, I always recommend controlling estrogen balance using stack design, whenever possible. Just a slight clarification, DHT derivatives to not prevent aromatization, they simply increase the androgens in the body without increasing estrogen, correcting A:E ratios for those that are estrogen sensitive.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #3

Makes sense, Lantus is still such an unknown to most of us...

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #4

I have ample amounts of Lantus that I will be experimenting with during the off-season. I always like to do some self-experimentation on things like this so I'm able to offer my own anecdotes.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #5

I like, in theory, a fusion of Milos and Palumbos theories. Lantus as a base (~20iu/day) and Humalog pre workout as a pulse.

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #6

I'm hopeful that the article shed some light on why the acute timing of insulin may not be nearly as important as it relates to direct hypertrophy effects.

And for this reason, I would probably consider post-workout to be more ideal so that there is no risk for battling hypoglycemia during a workout. In other words, I would use the LOG-type insulin purely for nutrient shuttling alongside a post-workout meal.

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Avatar of Dw725 Dw725 Dec 19, 2017 #7

Great timing for me on this article. I jumped around reading parts here and there, will have to really dig in when I have a min. Thanks @ChestRockwell

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Avatar of fodsod fodsod Dec 19, 2017 #8

Excellent article @ChestRockwell. Very informative and well written. I'm looking forward to the next one on GH and insulin. Even though some of us have a pretty good idea of how to use them together effectively I enjoy reading the actual science behind why it works.

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Avatar of belphegor123 belphegor123 Dec 19, 2017 #9

Thanks for posting this, looking forward to seeing a female specific iteration if that ever comes. You should get Lyle to let you write some female specific PED stuff in the new womens book

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #10

It is funny you mention this as I talk to Lyle often but never thought to offer this up. He's done with the book now so it won't be making it into this version anyhow.

I think that female information is severely lacking, though. So, I'll start brainstorming the best way to approach this and include the missus as well.

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Avatar of master.on master.on Dec 23, 2017 #11

Great article @ChestRockwell

Do GHRPs/peptides have some use for hypertrophy, provided you follow the article (test, deca, slin, meals) guidelines?

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 23, 2017 #12

I think there can be a place for them, yes. However, I do not recommend them (nor use them myself).

My primary concerns are going to be long-term safety of using a product that hyper-charges the pituitary as well as finding a legit source of quality product. There are just countless tales I've come across where the user experience suggests they are not receiving what they are paying for.

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b bob hughes Dec 27, 2017 #13

Very interesting point you made about the importance of using pharmaceutical GH with its rigorous standards instead of generics, despite generics scoring well on serum GH and igf1 testing due to the impurities and by-products. Do you feel that Chinese pharmaceutical GH like say, Ansomone is on par with or not too far behind humatrope, genotropin, Etc? Those humas and genos are not cheap and there's tons of fakes out there.. excellent article by the way..

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D DragoT Dec 27, 2017 #14

@ChestRockwell Is there a bottom line in terms of fat loss when comes to long term exogenous HGH administration? As I have mentioned before, I do take it for 19 months already (while try not to exceed IGF-1 reference range) and combined with very clean nutrition diet and non-bodybuilding exercise routine my BF is currently 9.1% (calipers). At this point I am not sure what is the main contributing factor - HGH or diet or combination of both. Comprehensive blood work is excellent at this point.

I guess intentionally or not I have become a "test subject" in a non scientific study for both "long term use" and "non-Pharma use"... Will keep y'all posted for sure...

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Avatar of Roco Bama Roco Bama Dec 28, 2017 #15

Good job bro. No way someone in your age can be that lean if it wasn't for GH and clean diet.
How much calories are you consuming daily ? I'm planning on putting my mom who is 49 on GH.

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D DragoT Dec 28, 2017 #16

Both my wife and I consume slightly below or equal to maintenance. At this age I personally think will be overkill to have bodybuilding aspirations (although, frankly, with the treasure trove of information here it does not sound far fetched...). What we both find absolutely precious is the reversal (or stale) of some typical aging symptoms - her per-menopusal hot flashes and regular period are in the past, as well as my ED is gone at 5-6 months mark (but I am on TRT as well).

You have seen my other post about nutrition diet. Nothing have changed since I posted... well something did - the difference - from the apeshit keto we went for 6-10 months to carb cycling (wife more than me since she now trains for... well... perhaps I will tell you later next year :-) but if you look her BF chart, you can guess:

View image at the forums

I am stuck at home at present to so much work that literally cannot go to the gym, just walking the dog and hop on treadmill between meetings. Sometimes I have time for some bench weight lifting too (we converted one of the rooms in the house to a "gym"). So, for me just clean home cooked meals where I know what's in it.

I still maintain the biggest enemy of 50+ people are the estrogens and sugars in our food which leads to body fat deposit, which in turn makes life shitty as hell. That's about sums is all.

The main reason of total joy for both of us is the absolutely excellent blood work results. Only one "thing" left to fix -wife's PCOS.

As you see, the lean (or muscle) mass, especially in my case, do not play significant role in terms of metabolism. This is what I was asking Chester at what point HGH will "stop" playing role in BF loss. After all, if HGH the role in lipolysis was indefinite, one might expect to... die at some point since there is a min % of body fat necessary for a human organism to function.

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