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The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

December 14, 2017 by Chest Rockwell Leave a Comment

The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

Healthy elderly subjects who were provided combined doses of testosterone and GH, designed to put them back into youthful hormone ranges, did experience improvements in certain measures of balance and physical performance [187]. These performance improvements seem to be more pronounced in men though, and are marginal at best, even with the combined treatments [188]. As has been discussed earlier, supraphysiological doses of GH may increase anaerobic capacity [180]. This is something that has also been seen on occasion when GHD subjects were treated with GH, putting them back into “normal” hormone ranges [182,189].

The GH/IGF axis may also play a role in the regulation of vascular tone, or the degree of constriction as compared to a blood vessel’s maximally dilated state, thereby regulating peripheral resistance [190-191]. IGF-1 has been identified as a potent vasodilator, an effect partly mediated by increased nitric oxide release from the endothelium, the tissue that forms a layer of cells lining organs such as the heart and lymphatic vessels [192-194]. This potential for increased blood flow capacity has a myriad of hypothetical benefits on athletic endeavors.

The bottom line here is that, despite the lack of compelling evidence in the literature [434], athletes are often using doses and protocols that are not being replicated in trials. With that said, caution should still be exercised before completely dismissing GH as a performance enhancer simply based upon what the body of literature suggests to us. It is very possible that it is going to be a contributor to elite level athletes, and may be doing so via direct or indirect means.

Direct Effects of GH and IGF-1 – Skeletal Muscle Hypertrophy

Let’s cut right to the chase – in and of itself, GH does not directly cause skeletal muscle hypertrophy. This has been studied extensively for decades and, so far, no credible study has been able to show a clear effect of medium-to-long term rHGH administration on hypertrophy – even in supraphysiological doses provided to high level athletes participating in rigorous resistance training.

The fact that this correlation has not been made is certainly not due to lack of trying. Plenty of research teams through the years have attempted to identify GH-mediated hypertrophy in healthy adult subjects [48,184,195-199] or elderly subjects [188,198,200-203] either unsuccessfully, or inconclusively. Furthermore, the acute exercise-induced increases in GH secretion have also been demonstrated to produce no changes in MPS or hypertrophy [204-205]. Interestingly, although the amount of trials occurring within the literature are significantly less common than those where GH was administered, systemic administration of rhIGF-1 has also been shown to result in no measurable hypertrophic effect in both young [63,206] and elderly [207-208] subjects.

There is recent evidence which suggests that chronic GH exposure increases the expression of the intramuscular pathways responsible for atrophy [209]. It stands to reason that many of the anabolic characteristics demonstrated by GH may be offset by this increased catabolic pathway expression, which could be why chronic exposure to GH does not lead to hypertrophy. It could also be responsible for why chronic GH exposure may produce less efficient and weaker muscles [210]. Quite simply, this may be yet another in long line of negative regulations built into the GH/IGF axis, but further studies are going to need to be conducted to further elucidate this hypothesis.

For those that plan on digging into the literature themselves after reading this article, which I highly encourage by the way, I want to make a very important distinction here which goes all the way back to my opening statement. Most GH trials do report an increase of lean body mass in their subject groups who were administered GH. So, at this juncture, one may be unclear how I can still be making these anti-hypertrophy claims? Well, we must remember that GH is very adept at causing water retention, as well as increasing soft tissue mass which I’ll talk about momentarily. Specifically, GH increases whole-body sodium retention, and consequently extracellular water, in a dose-dependent manner, via its effects on the renin-angiotensin system [211]. These increases in sodium and water retention have also been seen with IGF-1 administration, as IGF-1 itself seems to be a key regulator of renal sodium excretion rate [83,212-213]. So the real takeaway point here is to just be careful when drawing conclusions between reports of increased lean body mass and actual skeletal tissue growth.

Indirect Effects of GH and IGF-1 – Skeletal Muscle Hypertrophy

We’ve just spent the entirety of the last section talking about how both GH and IGF-1 have no direct impact on hypertrophy. However, this does not mean they do not contribute at all. My primary goal for this section of the article is to explain a few of the many mechanisms occurring behind the scenes, many of which will still be big factors to someone that is interested in maximizing their hypertrophy potential.

Growth hormone is a potent stimulator of collagen synthesis in both tendons and skeletal muscle. This effect is likely mediated via autocrine IGF-1’s ability to stimulate fibroblasts to synthesize it [214-215]. It actually does this without affecting skeletal muscle protein synthesis, despite both circulating and local IGF-1 being enhanced significantly. This effect is also induced independent of resistance training, and even seen in immobilized subjects provided with GH administration [216]. The connective component of skeletal muscle is vital for the transmission of force, which is produced by muscle fibers, to the tendons and bones for actual movement. Specifically, collagen is an important strength-carrying component of the extracellular matrix, which is continually being loaded during intense movements.

Because of GH’s potent effects on the components of the extracellular matrix, we may now begin to understand why anecdotes over the years suggested that adding GH into a hormone stack produced positive impacts on things like nagging aches and pains. On the other end of the spectrum, this also could be a primary contributing factor to why various side effects are reported by GH users such as soft tissue edema, joint pain, and carpal tunnel syndrome [217-219]. There are also many who believe GH can accelerate injury recovery time, however that is a complex topic that will be discussed another day.

GH’s impacts on collagen synthesis could also be of great interest to strength athletes who are not necessarily motivated by hypertrophy, but whose goals are creating an environment conducive to moving the absolute maximum weight from point A to point B. Stimulating collagen synthesis would potentially help strengthen the entire skeletal muscle support system. Now, it is worth adding a little clarifying side-note here. Despite this sounding great in principle, GH supplementation has never directly resulted in strength gains in any of the trials on otherwise healthy subjects, spanning various groups [48,50,184,196-198,200-201,203,220-221]. Of course, if GH was being used alongside something that did increase strength, it isn’t much of a leap to postulate that it may be a valuable accessory compound.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #1

@ChestRockwell after reading your new article, the you say "exogenous insulin can also be used to bypass many of the refractory period limitations"

Would you suggest a long acting insulin like lantus if one plans on multiple, more frequent than every 6-8 hours, injections of GH....? Would this lower the refractory period significantly enough to justify every ~4 hour injections?

Oh, and "Most will find the GH ceiling to occur somewhere between 4-8 IUs/day sans insulin"... Do you feel the addition of lantus would increase the overall ability to get "more" out of "more" gh? Meaning, if 4-8iu/day is the "cap" w/o insulin, how would you describe a "balls out" insulin and GH stack (Something like Xiu ofGH would be effective with Y amount of insulin)?

God dammit, one more question to add... You mention SERMS and AIs have a negative effect. What about the addition of a DHT derivative such as proviron or masteron in place to prevent some aromatization?

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #2

I think the refractory periods become more consequential to someone who is not eating between their GH doses. Most are going to be eating pretty regularly and it doesn't take a lot of insulin to resensitize pathways.

With that said, the idea of Lantus is certainly intriguing as it takes much of the guesswork out of the GH/insulin timing protocols. It also tends to help simplify CHO consumption and the risks of hypoglycemia go down. Of course, the flip side of the coin is that having elevated basal insulin levels for 24-36 hours could cause undesired effects. So, there are certainly pros and cons to weigh.

Correct, the addition of exogenous insulin makes my statement obsolete as the ceiling will raise significantly.

Yes, I always recommend controlling estrogen balance using stack design, whenever possible. Just a slight clarification, DHT derivatives to not prevent aromatization, they simply increase the androgens in the body without increasing estrogen, correcting A:E ratios for those that are estrogen sensitive.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #3

Makes sense, Lantus is still such an unknown to most of us...

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #4

I have ample amounts of Lantus that I will be experimenting with during the off-season. I always like to do some self-experimentation on things like this so I'm able to offer my own anecdotes.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #5

I like, in theory, a fusion of Milos and Palumbos theories. Lantus as a base (~20iu/day) and Humalog pre workout as a pulse.

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #6

I'm hopeful that the article shed some light on why the acute timing of insulin may not be nearly as important as it relates to direct hypertrophy effects.

And for this reason, I would probably consider post-workout to be more ideal so that there is no risk for battling hypoglycemia during a workout. In other words, I would use the LOG-type insulin purely for nutrient shuttling alongside a post-workout meal.

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Avatar of Dw725 Dw725 Dec 19, 2017 #7

Great timing for me on this article. I jumped around reading parts here and there, will have to really dig in when I have a min. Thanks @ChestRockwell

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Avatar of fodsod fodsod Dec 19, 2017 #8

Excellent article @ChestRockwell. Very informative and well written. I'm looking forward to the next one on GH and insulin. Even though some of us have a pretty good idea of how to use them together effectively I enjoy reading the actual science behind why it works.

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Avatar of belphegor123 belphegor123 Dec 19, 2017 #9

Thanks for posting this, looking forward to seeing a female specific iteration if that ever comes. You should get Lyle to let you write some female specific PED stuff in the new womens book

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #10

It is funny you mention this as I talk to Lyle often but never thought to offer this up. He's done with the book now so it won't be making it into this version anyhow.

I think that female information is severely lacking, though. So, I'll start brainstorming the best way to approach this and include the missus as well.

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Avatar of master.on master.on Dec 23, 2017 #11

Great article @ChestRockwell

Do GHRPs/peptides have some use for hypertrophy, provided you follow the article (test, deca, slin, meals) guidelines?

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 23, 2017 #12

I think there can be a place for them, yes. However, I do not recommend them (nor use them myself).

My primary concerns are going to be long-term safety of using a product that hyper-charges the pituitary as well as finding a legit source of quality product. There are just countless tales I've come across where the user experience suggests they are not receiving what they are paying for.

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b bob hughes Dec 27, 2017 #13

Very interesting point you made about the importance of using pharmaceutical GH with its rigorous standards instead of generics, despite generics scoring well on serum GH and igf1 testing due to the impurities and by-products. Do you feel that Chinese pharmaceutical GH like say, Ansomone is on par with or not too far behind humatrope, genotropin, Etc? Those humas and genos are not cheap and there's tons of fakes out there.. excellent article by the way..

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D DragoT Dec 27, 2017 #14

@ChestRockwell Is there a bottom line in terms of fat loss when comes to long term exogenous HGH administration? As I have mentioned before, I do take it for 19 months already (while try not to exceed IGF-1 reference range) and combined with very clean nutrition diet and non-bodybuilding exercise routine my BF is currently 9.1% (calipers). At this point I am not sure what is the main contributing factor - HGH or diet or combination of both. Comprehensive blood work is excellent at this point.

I guess intentionally or not I have become a "test subject" in a non scientific study for both "long term use" and "non-Pharma use"... Will keep y'all posted for sure...

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Avatar of Roco Bama Roco Bama Dec 28, 2017 #15

Good job bro. No way someone in your age can be that lean if it wasn't for GH and clean diet.
How much calories are you consuming daily ? I'm planning on putting my mom who is 49 on GH.

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D DragoT Dec 28, 2017 #16

Both my wife and I consume slightly below or equal to maintenance. At this age I personally think will be overkill to have bodybuilding aspirations (although, frankly, with the treasure trove of information here it does not sound far fetched...). What we both find absolutely precious is the reversal (or stale) of some typical aging symptoms - her per-menopusal hot flashes and regular period are in the past, as well as my ED is gone at 5-6 months mark (but I am on TRT as well).

You have seen my other post about nutrition diet. Nothing have changed since I posted... well something did - the difference - from the apeshit keto we went for 6-10 months to carb cycling (wife more than me since she now trains for... well... perhaps I will tell you later next year :-) but if you look her BF chart, you can guess:

View image at the forums

I am stuck at home at present to so much work that literally cannot go to the gym, just walking the dog and hop on treadmill between meetings. Sometimes I have time for some bench weight lifting too (we converted one of the rooms in the house to a "gym"). So, for me just clean home cooked meals where I know what's in it.

I still maintain the biggest enemy of 50+ people are the estrogens and sugars in our food which leads to body fat deposit, which in turn makes life shitty as hell. That's about sums is all.

The main reason of total joy for both of us is the absolutely excellent blood work results. Only one "thing" left to fix -wife's PCOS.

As you see, the lean (or muscle) mass, especially in my case, do not play significant role in terms of metabolism. This is what I was asking Chester at what point HGH will "stop" playing role in BF loss. After all, if HGH the role in lipolysis was indefinite, one might expect to... die at some point since there is a min % of body fat necessary for a human organism to function.

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