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The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

December 14, 2017 by Chest Rockwell Leave a Comment

The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Hypertrophy

Androgens primarily mediate their effects via the androgen receptor (AR) gene which is expressed in myoblasts, myofibers, and satellite cells [247-248]. ARs have also been detected in muscle-supporting cells, such as fibroblasts and endothelial cells. AR density appears to be muscle-group-specific, with both resistance training and AAS usage having the ability to affect the number of ARs present in these muscle groups. In addition to its effects on AR density, AAS use has also demonstrated the ability to affect AR activity levels in both an acute and long-term manner [249-250]. These are pretty important factors to consider when coming across individuals who claim that former AAS usage does not necessarily give someone a permanent competitive advantage.

Due to the overall complexity of the topic, there have been several hypotheses generated on the mechanisms by which AAS exerts its anabolic actions on skeletal muscle [251]. Testosterone treatments have been shown to increase muscle protein synthesis (MPS) rates [252], decrease protein breakdown rates [253], and even cause the body to more efficiently utilize readily-available stored amino acids. So again, this is a fairly complex system that can just as well be simplified by remembering that AAS promote muscle anabolism via their ability to positively impact amino acid balance.

It is generally accepted that AAS exert their anabolic effects via binding with, and activating, the AR which subsequently activates downstream signaling cascades involving the Wnt-beta-catenin pathway [254-256]. Wingless/Int (Wnt) are a family of secreted glycoproteins that regulate cellular proliferation and differentiation [257-258]. Cell models have shown us that the AR forms a complex with beta-catenin which becomes enhanced in the presence of AAS [259-260]. Once this complex is activated, it translocates into the nuclei where it regulates the expression of target genes and the differentiation of satellite cells [261-262]. This also happens to be the AAS pathway largely responsible for myogenesis, the formation of muscular tissues [263-265].

It is worth noting that AAS also possess non-genomic characteristics which can rapidly affect numerous hormonal and metabolic processes outside of classical receptor binding. There have actually been reports in the literature of adult males with androgen insensitivity disorders, caused by AR mutations, who responded very similarly to healthy subjects in their response to testosterone. These case studies do reinforce the hypothesis that the anabolic effects of AAS can be mediated independent of the AR [266]. The non-genomic actions of androgens can actually be quite a fascinating topic, yet a little beyond the intended scope of this article. For those that want to dive deeper into it, I would recommend starting with the reviews referenced here [267-268].

AAS – Potential for Synergy with the GH/IGF Axis

We’ve laid a lot of groundwork, but this is where things really start to get interesting. A logical question at this point would be are there any human trials on healthy subjects comparing the differences between single treatments of GH or androgens and combined treatments? Fortunately for us, the answer is “yes” as there have been a handful of trials, primarily using elderly subjects, including both male and female subjects. The results from each and every one of these trials clearly demonstrates that GH has an additive effect upon the well-established benefits that sex hormone therapy provides – namely hypertrophy, lipolysis, collagen synthesis, physical function, quality of life, and other various performance markers [187-188,269-270]. Since it is pretty clear an additive effect does exist, let’s see if we can dig deeper to uncover some of the underlying mechanisms working to achieve this androgen and GH synergy.

It must be understood that testosterone, in and of itself, has an additive effect on the entire GH/IGF axis. This has been seen in both human and animal subjects, with testosterone administration leading to increased circulating GH and IGF-1 levels [241,271-276]. Conversely, testosterone deficiency is commonly associated with significantly reduced levels of IGF-1 [277]. The stimulatory effect testosterone has on the GH/IGF axis appears to be mediated at the hypothalamic level and a result of promoted GHRH functionality [278].

Furthermore, and this is a critical point to drive home, non-aromatizing androgens do not seem to possess this same stimulatory effect on the GH/IGF axis [279]. Aromatase inhibitors (AIs), designed to suppress the aromatization process, have been shown to directly attenuate the stimulation of GH by testosterone administration. These clues provide pretty compelling evidence that local estrogens, via aromatization, play a pivotal role in the regulation of GH secretion in males [280-281]. Because aromatase is not expressed in the liver, AIs do not impact the hepatic action of GH but instead affect the GH system centrally [282-283], however selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) are even more suppressive in that they act in almost a double negative manner due to their mechanism of action [284-285].

Even androgens that increase serum estrogen levels, such as nandrolone, show little-to-no effect on systemic GH and IGF levels as compared to testosterone [286]. I speculate this is due to the fact that nandrolone does not aromatize via the aromatase enzyme like testosterone [287], which appears to be the most crucial step in androgen-mediated hypothalamic stimulation. Now please understand that someone using exogenous rHGH probably doesn’t have to worry about this as much as someone not using rHGH, considering hormone levels are almost exclusively being controlled by exogenous means. With that said, it is still something important to understand, when looking at the big picture, especially if maximizing hypertrophy is the goal.

Another potential reason that increased GH and IGF levels have been seen with testosterone treatments is due to its direct effects upon GHRs. Both human and animal studies have provided evidence that testosterone modifies GHRs in both the liver and peripheral tissues, enhancing GHR expression [288-289]. In addition, hypopituitary and hypogonadal human subjects undergoing GH treatments have shown augmented response to both local IGF-1 and androgen receptor gene expression when also administered testosterone [187,290-291]. Further to this, hypopituitary males provided with testosterone treatments only showed notable effects on protein anabolism in the presence of GH, with the primary site of hormonal interaction being the liver [292]. So even when hormone levels are deficient, there is still a very important interplay going on between testosterone and the GH/IGF axis.

As I mentioned earlier, the GHR is expressed in just about all major tissue types. It is worth pointing out though that the GHR is expressed in very low amount in skeletal muscle – only around 4-33% of the levels seen in other tissues. On the other hand, the IGF receptor is expressed much higher in skeletal muscle, just as it is in hepatic tissues [293-294]. Even with that said, having increased GHR sensitivity to the supraphysiological amounts of available serum GH is only going to serve to benefit the bodybuilder. Bodybuilders continuously look to use high amounts of rHGH in their quest for maximal hypertrophy, and whether the GH is being used directly or subsequently converted to IGF-1 and used by skeletal muscle tissues, having an enhanced GH/IGF axis is going to be beneficial.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #1

@ChestRockwell after reading your new article, the you say "exogenous insulin can also be used to bypass many of the refractory period limitations"

Would you suggest a long acting insulin like lantus if one plans on multiple, more frequent than every 6-8 hours, injections of GH....? Would this lower the refractory period significantly enough to justify every ~4 hour injections?

Oh, and "Most will find the GH ceiling to occur somewhere between 4-8 IUs/day sans insulin"... Do you feel the addition of lantus would increase the overall ability to get "more" out of "more" gh? Meaning, if 4-8iu/day is the "cap" w/o insulin, how would you describe a "balls out" insulin and GH stack (Something like Xiu ofGH would be effective with Y amount of insulin)?

God dammit, one more question to add... You mention SERMS and AIs have a negative effect. What about the addition of a DHT derivative such as proviron or masteron in place to prevent some aromatization?

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #2

I think the refractory periods become more consequential to someone who is not eating between their GH doses. Most are going to be eating pretty regularly and it doesn't take a lot of insulin to resensitize pathways.

With that said, the idea of Lantus is certainly intriguing as it takes much of the guesswork out of the GH/insulin timing protocols. It also tends to help simplify CHO consumption and the risks of hypoglycemia go down. Of course, the flip side of the coin is that having elevated basal insulin levels for 24-36 hours could cause undesired effects. So, there are certainly pros and cons to weigh.

Correct, the addition of exogenous insulin makes my statement obsolete as the ceiling will raise significantly.

Yes, I always recommend controlling estrogen balance using stack design, whenever possible. Just a slight clarification, DHT derivatives to not prevent aromatization, they simply increase the androgens in the body without increasing estrogen, correcting A:E ratios for those that are estrogen sensitive.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #3

Makes sense, Lantus is still such an unknown to most of us...

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #4

I have ample amounts of Lantus that I will be experimenting with during the off-season. I always like to do some self-experimentation on things like this so I'm able to offer my own anecdotes.

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Avatar of Wunderpus Wunderpus Dec 19, 2017 #5

I like, in theory, a fusion of Milos and Palumbos theories. Lantus as a base (~20iu/day) and Humalog pre workout as a pulse.

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #6

I'm hopeful that the article shed some light on why the acute timing of insulin may not be nearly as important as it relates to direct hypertrophy effects.

And for this reason, I would probably consider post-workout to be more ideal so that there is no risk for battling hypoglycemia during a workout. In other words, I would use the LOG-type insulin purely for nutrient shuttling alongside a post-workout meal.

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Avatar of Dw725 Dw725 Dec 19, 2017 #7

Great timing for me on this article. I jumped around reading parts here and there, will have to really dig in when I have a min. Thanks @ChestRockwell

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Avatar of fodsod fodsod Dec 19, 2017 #8

Excellent article @ChestRockwell. Very informative and well written. I'm looking forward to the next one on GH and insulin. Even though some of us have a pretty good idea of how to use them together effectively I enjoy reading the actual science behind why it works.

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Avatar of belphegor123 belphegor123 Dec 19, 2017 #9

Thanks for posting this, looking forward to seeing a female specific iteration if that ever comes. You should get Lyle to let you write some female specific PED stuff in the new womens book

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 19, 2017 #10

It is funny you mention this as I talk to Lyle often but never thought to offer this up. He's done with the book now so it won't be making it into this version anyhow.

I think that female information is severely lacking, though. So, I'll start brainstorming the best way to approach this and include the missus as well.

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Avatar of master.on master.on Dec 23, 2017 #11

Great article @ChestRockwell

Do GHRPs/peptides have some use for hypertrophy, provided you follow the article (test, deca, slin, meals) guidelines?

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Avatar of ChestRockwell ChestRockwell Dec 23, 2017 #12

I think there can be a place for them, yes. However, I do not recommend them (nor use them myself).

My primary concerns are going to be long-term safety of using a product that hyper-charges the pituitary as well as finding a legit source of quality product. There are just countless tales I've come across where the user experience suggests they are not receiving what they are paying for.

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b bob hughes Dec 27, 2017 #13

Very interesting point you made about the importance of using pharmaceutical GH with its rigorous standards instead of generics, despite generics scoring well on serum GH and igf1 testing due to the impurities and by-products. Do you feel that Chinese pharmaceutical GH like say, Ansomone is on par with or not too far behind humatrope, genotropin, Etc? Those humas and genos are not cheap and there's tons of fakes out there.. excellent article by the way..

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D DragoT Dec 27, 2017 #14

@ChestRockwell Is there a bottom line in terms of fat loss when comes to long term exogenous HGH administration? As I have mentioned before, I do take it for 19 months already (while try not to exceed IGF-1 reference range) and combined with very clean nutrition diet and non-bodybuilding exercise routine my BF is currently 9.1% (calipers). At this point I am not sure what is the main contributing factor - HGH or diet or combination of both. Comprehensive blood work is excellent at this point.

I guess intentionally or not I have become a "test subject" in a non scientific study for both "long term use" and "non-Pharma use"... Will keep y'all posted for sure...

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Avatar of Roco Bama Roco Bama Dec 28, 2017 #15

Good job bro. No way someone in your age can be that lean if it wasn't for GH and clean diet.
How much calories are you consuming daily ? I'm planning on putting my mom who is 49 on GH.

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D DragoT Dec 28, 2017 #16

Both my wife and I consume slightly below or equal to maintenance. At this age I personally think will be overkill to have bodybuilding aspirations (although, frankly, with the treasure trove of information here it does not sound far fetched...). What we both find absolutely precious is the reversal (or stale) of some typical aging symptoms - her per-menopusal hot flashes and regular period are in the past, as well as my ED is gone at 5-6 months mark (but I am on TRT as well).

You have seen my other post about nutrition diet. Nothing have changed since I posted... well something did - the difference - from the apeshit keto we went for 6-10 months to carb cycling (wife more than me since she now trains for... well... perhaps I will tell you later next year :-) but if you look her BF chart, you can guess:

View image at the forums

I am stuck at home at present to so much work that literally cannot go to the gym, just walking the dog and hop on treadmill between meetings. Sometimes I have time for some bench weight lifting too (we converted one of the rooms in the house to a "gym"). So, for me just clean home cooked meals where I know what's in it.

I still maintain the biggest enemy of 50+ people are the estrogens and sugars in our food which leads to body fat deposit, which in turn makes life shitty as hell. That's about sums is all.

The main reason of total joy for both of us is the absolutely excellent blood work results. Only one "thing" left to fix -wife's PCOS.

As you see, the lean (or muscle) mass, especially in my case, do not play significant role in terms of metabolism. This is what I was asking Chester at what point HGH will "stop" playing role in BF loss. After all, if HGH the role in lipolysis was indefinite, one might expect to... die at some point since there is a min % of body fat necessary for a human organism to function.

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