Virgin Muscle

[Walker]

I want to know so of your experiences with pinning for the first time...

How long did you guys average for the pain in the area to go away?

I pinned my glute last sunday, and the next day man oh man my ass was sore....not hot to touch or red just plain old sore....pinned again into same side wednesday in a dif area of the glute . reason for pinning into same cheek was that I couldnt bear to have both ass cheek sore like that lol

the first 3-4 days were pretty bad....up until yesterday it was still tender.... Have to pin in the morn and debating if i should try the other side... thinking i will try to heat it up a little and take my time...I may have injected slightly too fast i think because my second injection wasnt really painful at all...

a little info... pinned 1ml (250mg) Test C Newport each injection.

 

[ShredMN]

"Virgin muscle" is a myth. It comes down to the quality of your gear and how you prepared to pin e.g. warming up oil etc., not how many times you injected an oil into a specific muscle. More than likely your gear has higher impurities or the muscle isn't relaxed when you pin. My first cycle I had no pain at all after any pins, ever, for the entire cycle. And every muscle I pinned was a so called "virgin muscle" since it was my first cycle. Warm your vial up in a shallow hot water bath before trying again, and use a smaller gauge needle if needed and see if that changes anything.

 

[Walker]

hmmm if your correct then maybe I injected too fast....because when I went alot slower and took my time the second pin there was no pain...Im gonna try my other glute in the morn with this theory and report back...

Im wondering tho...ive read this virgin muscle theory man many times ...do you have any actual study that proves its a myth or is this just from your personal experince? @ShredMN ?

thx for the input

 

[ShredMN]

Show me a study that proves that injecting any type of drug will cause pain at the injection site until more injections in the same site are administered. You're reading bro-science from people that cannot explain the phenomena so instead they turn to a myth. Last antibiotic shot I got in my deltoid hurt like a bitch, and I've had many different antibiotics and vaccines injected into the deltoid. Has absolutely nothing to do with how many times I've had an injection in that muscle. A lot of the shit you read online is completely unsubstantiated, and the reason you hear a lot about "virgin muscle" is because rather than understanding the reasons behind it, people just perpetuate a myth that's a cop out for real understanding. It's like people centuries ago claiming the earth was flat, and since someone at some point claimed that was the truth, everyone stuck with it because, hell, they couldn't prove that it wasn't flat... but that does not make it true.

 

[ShredMN]

And you'll never find a study on such a silly matter.

 

[Walker]

fair enough @ShredMN thx for the input...ill report back tomorrow after my pin to see if it was my error on the administration of it...im thinking it was merely a matter of pinning it too fast....

 

[rutman]

I agree with ShredMN. No such thing as virgin muscle...

 

[dper726]

Injecting too fast can have its associated sides with certain drugs. But testosterone is not one of them.

 

[Big_paul]

First few times were rough. It grows on you and before you know, it becomes second nature.

 

[tubesox]

i actually just did a quad inject and it hurt just as much as any of my other former injections, meanwhile most of them are barely noticable...its just placement, how relaxed the muscle is, volume, temp, a bunch of variables...but i wouldn't call it virgin muscle

 

[vgc]

I'm on TRT using Watson T Cyp (from the pharmacy), and I've had virtually zero soreness after any injection, though quads can be a little uncomfortable during injection.

 

[ebola]

I want to know so of your experiences with pinning for the first time...

How long did you guys average for the pain in the area to go away?
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I think it depends on the quality of the gear because from some I never get any pain.

 

[roastdawg]

I dunno... Definitely hurts less second time around for me usually.

 

[Walker]

ok just a fyi, I think the first go at injecting I may have hit a nerve or something because it was sore as hell....injected my other glute this morning, heated the vial, which made everything hella easier as far as drawing etc....woke up after my sleep...(working nightshift) and my glute has a slight soreness but nothing like the first inject. THis soreness is totally manageable so Im thinking it was a error on my part from the get go. This is still a learning experience for me.

I appreciate all the input fellas!

 

[HuckingFuge]

you know instantly if you hit a nerve, your leg will flinch.

 

[Walker]

ok thx @HuckingFuge not sure what it was then....hurt like a badass charlie horse but have done two more injections since and nothing comparable ...

Could injecting it too fast do it?

And I dont think the gear is bunk btw. No proof but a reputable source and strenghth is way up 1 week in....dbol plus test c

 

[HuckingFuge]

no, I inject my stuff as fast as it will go into my muscles, I use 21 gauge needles, so I'm looking for speed. you probably just moved the needle around and cut up some muscle more than you should have. when you do Prop or Sust than you'll have pain

 

[Walker]

Im thinking your exactly right @HuckingFuge ... I had a hard time keeping the pin stable pushing it in using a 25g....even this morning had a bit of a hassel...wondering next try maybe pinning my quad...

Thx a bunch for the insight, Always appreciated

 

[ShredMN]

Do yourself a favor and buy some 23gauges. It will make it a lot easier to push the oil through the needle, and it shouldn't hurt much more, if any at all. And try not to move the needle at all once it's in your muscle. If you need to reposition your hand, just let go of the syringe entirely and it will stay in your muscle nice and still.

 

[Walker]

ok thx, for now ill keep using the 25's until I get some 23's....wondering if I could just get away using the 22 i draw with...ive heard it can dull but shit goes through the stopper like butter....lol...

thx for the insight