first cycle stash

[CHIEF M]

Will do thanks man

 

[Colt44]

By all means CM, run your cycle how you see fit. We only chime in because we want you to be successful and above all, safe.

You may have exellent results for the proposed cycle. You also may have a ton of intolerable sides and won't know where to start to combat them. My hope is on the former but you never know. Be prepared.

 

[CHIEF M]

Yes I have gone in and studied all the sides so I do know what I'm getting into and I appreciate all the help and knowledge you guys have praised upon me I'm hoping for the best but prepared if things go downhill I have started a log/thread in the cycle section for the ones who want to follow me through this I will be posting before and after pics and mid cycle blood work

 

[dredd09]

The thing with tren is once you break that barrier, itll be hard to get results from anything less every cycle after . Kinda like killing a deer with a bazooka.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

The thing with tren is once you break that barrier, itll be hard to get results from anything less every cycle after . Kinda like killing a deer with a bazooka.

Exactly!! There's no where left to go... Regardless, good luck CM..

 

[CHIEF M]

So your saying deca cycle wouldn't do justice if I planned on doing it down the road at a later time

 

[CHIEF M]

@johnnyBALLZ

 

[Colt44]

So your saying deca cycle wouldn't do justice if I planned on doing it down the road at a later time

Not sure what you mean?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

So your saying deca cycle wouldn't do justice if I planned on doing it down the road at a later time

Huh? I though we were talking about tren? I'm not saying deca or tren won't be good for for future cycles if you run it now but there's no need..

You can put on 25lbs easy on a simple test only cycle your first time if gear, diet, training are good.. It's unlikely IMO that you'll put on more muscle adding in another compound with those virgin receptors anyway..

 

[CHIEF M]

Not sure what you mean?

well from what you guys are saying it sounds like i wuld be stuck with running tren only for future cycles

The thing with tren is once you break that barrier, itll be hard to get results from anything less every cycle after . Kinda like killing a deer with a bazooka.

 

[CHIEF M]

Huh? I though we were talking about tren? I'm not saying deca or tren won't be good for for future cycles if you run it now but there's no need..

You can put on 25lbs easy on a simple test only cycle your first time if gear, diet, training are good.. It's unlikely IMO that you'll put on more muscle adding in another compound with those virgin receptors anyway..

Im not saying using deca for this cycle, I am trying to understand what you are getting at so I used that as a example but probably didn't word it correctly

 

[dredd09]

After tren, you'll find it more difficult to acheive solid gains without high dose tren included. If you can gain, say fifteen pounds off a cycle of test alone, or gain seventeen pounds on tren, test, and whatever combined.....what would you choose? Why waste the other compounds when later theyll help you break the limits you found on test alone cycles? To me tren is a "break glass when needed" type thing. Especially with the studies pointing to neurological issues with chronic use.

 

[CHIEF M]

and get ya now @johnnyBALLZ

 

[CHIEF M]

After tren, you'll find it more difficult to acheive solid gains without high dose tren included. If you can gain, say fifteen pounds off a cycle of test alone, or gain seventeen pounds on tren, test, and whatever combined.....what would you choose? Why waste the other compounds when later theyll help you break the limits you found on test alone cycles? To me tren is a "break glass when needed" type thing. Especially with the studies pointing to neurological issues with chronic use.

Very well put I dont plan on running tren so high for the first time, and I already have 20 ml of prop and 20ml of tren so I dont want to let it just sit for a 2nd cycle or later down the road unless I just get a few Test E vials from my guy. I also opted this route due to all the test e problems that were going around and seen good things from my sources prop and tren thats why I pulled the trigger.

 

[dredd09]

Get the vials of testy. I bet you'll thank yourself later when you have legit tren waiting for you next cycle......which will come faster than you think.

 

[CHIEF M]

im still 65/35 in favor of test prop tren cycle but I will check and see how his test e/c is first before i do change my mind or go 50/50 on my decision

 

[dredd09]

Ive seen your future, and testy will bring you much success in first cycle. You will become superhuman and never have to worry about prolactin for many moons.

 

[CHIEF M]

Well it wouldn't be my first run at tren I ran the Prohormone version of it dosed at 120mg a day didn't do too bad but I'm sure it's nowhere close to the real deal

 

[FockU]

Well it wouldn't be my first run at tren I ran the Prohormone version of it dosed at 120mg a day didn't do too bad but I'm sure it's nowhere close to the real deal

Bro, don't fuck around with PH no more aas is where is at. Since you've bought the Tren already just let it sit for now, run the Test, see how your body reacts and the gains you're making with it, the sides and whatnot and get bloods to see if the test is legit first of all, that should give you an idea if your source is a scumbag asshole scammer motherfucker. All this while still doing your homework for Tren, luckily in a few weeks of Test you'll see the results you're looking for (Provided you maintain good diet and exercise). Have all your ancillaries on hand.

The thing about the tren my friend is that you don't even know how does your body react to exogenous test, if you add Test + Tren and you get some weird shit going on you're not even going to know what the fuck to do. plus, you're shutting yourself down WAAAY harder than Test alone. Listen to the advice and you'll do a lot better, I put money on that. there's a lot of experienced people here, you don't wanna be that guy asking for help later.

my 0.02

 

[CHIEF M]

Bro, don't fuck around with PH no more aas is where is at. Since you've bought the Tren already just let it sit for now, run the Test, see how your body reacts and the gains you're making with it, the sides and whatnot and get bloods to see if the test is legit first of all, that should give you an idea if your source is a scumbag asshole scammer motherfucker. All this while still doing your homework for Tren, luckily in a few weeks of Test you'll see the results you're looking for (Provided you maintain good diet and exercise). Have all your ancillaries on hand.

The thing about the tren my friend is that you don't even know how does your body react to exogenous test, if you add Test + Tren and you get some weird shit going on you're not even going to know what the fuck to do. plus, you're shutting yourself down WAAAY harder than Test alone. Listen to the advice and you'll do a lot better, I put money on that. there's a lot of experienced people here, you don't wanna be that guy asking for help later.

my 0.02

ive been getting back and forth opinions on this cycle good and bad but im just going to go with what i have originally planned and I appreciate all the help but like ive stated if sides get too harsh or I feel I cant pin point what the problem is I will drop the tren and continue with test, I have all my ancillaries on hand already