Input please

[shadowrealm13]

hello all I'm a little confused Iv done cycles of test sustsnon and test cyp before iam in a dilemma of a choice for next one now I was going to go with test cyp and deca but the more I read up on masteron I wanna include it in with test sust I'm thinking of it like this week 1-4test sust 200 mg 3 times per week
Week 1-4 masteron 200mg 2 times a week
Week 4-8 test sup 200 mg 2 a week
Week 4-8 mast 200 mg eod
Iam 6'2" weigh 250 lbs BF of 12% I want to burn fat and get more muscle definition I hit the gym 4 to 5 days a week it's my first week back in about 11 months tht I slaked off on going 3 times a week to no times a week any helpful advice opinions please chime in I've worked out for about 4 years till I slacked off

 

[shadowrealm13]

Anyone??

 

[hotdog23]

Anyone??

If you've been out of the gym 11 months I would give it a few months before you get back on. Or are you saying you were only going 3x a week in those 11 months?

 

[shadowrealm13]

No you got it correct in those 11 months I started doing 3 day weeks and then zero days and I'm asking not because im going to jump on gear right away but I can get it now just wanna get it while I can to be ready

 

[hotdog23]

Ok then

I'll lay u out a doozy
1-12 test enan or cyp 250mg e3d
1-12 deca 200mg e3d
1-12 ( if you think it's real) masteron 400mg/week

13-16 test prop 50mg/day
13-16 50mg/winny ed

8-16 hcg 250iu 2x per week

Week 17 start full pct with clomid and nolva

Now if you want 8-10 week cycle we gotta change ALL the esters, if you don't know the esters you needa do a little research on them and their half lives and how that affects blood levels

 

[Dr JIM]

It's going to be much more difficult to cut/define while using TWO AAS that aromatize unless you add an AI such as Adex.

Alternatively another option would be to run Tren Master and TT and the AI MAY be eliminated, depending upon your inherent level of aromatization

 

[shadowrealm13]

Hotdog you weren't kidding that's is a doozy lol and the esters in sustonon and mast ethanate are longer lasting right? Dr Jim on test itself at 750 a week In my past 2 cycles I did not aromatize no sides but yes iam thinking of throwing some nolva to have on hand just in case

 

[shadowrealm13]

Iam a little afraid of tren by all the bad sides I hear fro it night sweats anxiety and insomnia. I don't know if I could deal with that

 

[Dr JIM]

Hotdog you weren't kidding that's is a doozy lol and the esters in sustonon and mast ethanate are longer lasting right? Dr Jim on test itself at 750 a week In my past 2 cycles I did not aromatize no sides but yes iam thinking of throwing some nolva to have on hand just in case

Yea but now your adding Deca which although it does not aromatise will cause a rise in E-2 in most folk. So to that end Tamo may diminish E-2 sides it has no effect on E-2 levels.

 

[KillaBig]

Hotdog you weren't kidding that's is a doozy lol and the esters in sustonon and mast ethanate are longer lasting right? Dr Jim on test itself at 750 a week In my past 2 cycles I did not aromatize no sides but yes iam thinking of throwing some nolva to have on hand just in case

Save the Nolva for Pct along with clomid and run Aromasin or Arimdex while on cycle.

 

[shadowrealm13]

I get u know Dr Jim makes since I'll have to look and see on the tamo and availability thanks Killa Big good point

 

[Dr JIM]

Save the Nolva for Pct along with clomid and run Aromasin or Arimdex while on cycle.

It's fime to run Tamo during a cycle to diminish Gynecomastia but otherwise it's effects are relatively limited to Pct. However some experience a certain degree of E-2 antagonistic effects on the periphery using Tamoxifen, potentially limiting bloat.

 

[shadowrealm13]

Dr what would you suggest running the tamo at and were throw it in?

 

[Dr JIM]

Dr what would you suggest running the tamo at and were throw it in?

That depends upon how much and what AAS your cycling and WHY your talking it.

 

[shadowrealm13]

Well iam taking into consideration what hotdog said but I think I may teak it a bit give me ur thoughts
Week 1-12 mast p 400mg
Week 1-12 test cyp 750 mg a week
Iam not sure on Deca though
Throw in some aromasin at week 2 or 3 during cycle
Nolva 3 weeks after last pin

 

[KillaBig]

My last and final suggestion,lol
If your gonna go with the Mast P for a 12 weeker and considering its summer time.I would recommend running prop the whole cycle it can pinned right along with the mast p.
Either way keep us posted,Good luck to Ya!

"Prop-Life"

 

[hotdog23]

Well iam taking into consideration what hotdog said but I think I may teak it a bit give me ur thoughts
Week 1-12 mast p 400mg
Week 1-12 test cyp 750 mg a week
Iam not sure on Deca though
Throw in some aromasin at week 2 or 3 during cycle
Nolva 3 weeks after last pin

This is looking better

My last and final suggestion,lol
If your gonna go with the Mast P for a 12 weeker and considering its summer time.I would recommend running prop the whole cycle it can pinned right along with the mast p.
Either way keep us posted,Good luck to Ya!

"Prop-Life"

^^ this too. If you want short ester nandrolone (deca) use NPP

 

[shadowrealm13]

Thanks guys and I will keep you posted I don't plan on starting my gear till May I gotta get atleast 2 months under me again at gym before I get on it but I can get it now and and gives me time to line it all up I appreciate it bros good looking out

 

[shadowrealm13]

Keep em coming KillaBig I want knowledge and I like how you guys are sharing thanks a lot

 

[shadowrealm13]

KillsBig I just read you comment slower lol I was at work so are you saying to run the prop with mast p and the test cyp??