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Yeah I use a 21g to draw and the 23g to pin. Will see if I can get my hands on some 25g. There was zero pain when injecting, only issue was getting it to pierce the skin but that was just my shitty technique. Sure that will get better with more pins.

Pip today is minor, don't feel it at all unless I press the area and even then it's very little. As I suspected I do have the beginnings of a small bruise, only about 3mm diamater.

On the protein front, yep I've always been in the 1g per pound of body weight range but thought I'd give this iifym a go. However I totally agree I need more protein. I've always thought any more than 1g/lb is gonna be a waste and you end up pissing out what you're body doesn't use?
 
@hammertime yes def try the 25.

And on the protein I thought the same thing. But there is so much conflicting shit out there about how much protein u really need to gain weight. So I just go with 2 grams because thats the highest I found haha in my eyes better safe than sorry lol.
 
HCG shot today, need a little help.

I have a vial with 5000iu HCG and it came with only 2ml BAC water.

Initially I was planning on 300-500iu every 4-5 days. I think I will now do 250iu twice a week so 500iu total per week.

So by my calculations, mixing with 2ml BAC water I would need to draw just 0.10ml per shot which would give me 10 shots?

This correct? Fuck math.:D

I read it's best to start HCG the day after your test shot but have heard of people not starting until week 3. Any potential problems pinning this type of concentration? Should I wait until I have more BAC water? Or should I just do 0.20ml (500iu) once per week?
 
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Its my understanding that most people use the 5000iu hcg its pretty common. I am using pharma grade hcg at 6500iu. And yes most people use 250iu twice a week. Usually the same day they inject their test. But the nuts start to shrink from the first shot of test. I am only on my first cycle as well so I am not the most experienced person on this board by all means. But I def. do a lot of research. I would go with the 250iu twice a week same days u pin ur test. And u can use insulin syringes for that. They are so small u dont even feel it. My math sucks so I would wait for someone else to answer the math question for u. But to me it looks good.
 
MEEKmlz said:
Its my understanding that most people use the 5000iu hcg its pretty common. I am using pharma grade hcg at 6500iu. And yes most people use 250iu twice a week. Usually the same day they inject their test. But the nuts start to shrink from the first shot of test. I am only on my first cycle as well so I am not the most experienced person on this board by all means. But I def. do a lot of research. I would go with the 250iu twice a week same days u pin ur test. And u can use insulin syringes for that. They are so small u dont even feel it. My math sucks so I would wait for someone else to answer the math question for u. But to me it looks good.
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Seriously my nuts feel like they have shrunk a bit already, thought I was imagining it.
 
No u might not be imagining it. def get on that hcg asap bro and do as much reading as u can use the search function to look for the math. But u can also probably find it on youtube. Good luck!
 
Shit just got complicated.

Just went to fix up my HCG and it turns out there's only 1.5 ml BAC water in the thing rather than 2ml.

Can anyone work out what I need for 250iu per jab? I can't get my head round it.
 
Just a little update.

It's now Thursday and pip from first pin on Monday is lingering a little but can only feel it when I press the area.

I took 0.25 arimidex on monday also and by Tuesday I noticed my knees cracking if I sit and stand up. Now I'm due to take another 0.25 today, but not sure If I should or if I should just hold off and only take it if I start getting estrogen symptoms. Any thoughts guys?

I made up my HCG and just drew it all into 16 pins, I put them in a drawer but forgot about them and left them there overnight before putting them in freezer. I'm assuming it will still be ok?

Placebo at the gym is still going strong but no increase in libido etc yet. Nuts have shrunk a little and due another HCG pin tomorrow. Wish the test shot was as easy as the HCG one.

Any thoughts on doing test sub q?
 
Hey bro. I did my second pin today too. It was in my left ass cheek this time. And Im right handed so I couldnt keep the damn needle from moving with my left hand once it was in. Its already sore as fuck. But I also did legs yesterday and my ass was sore anyway. So tomorrow its gonna be painful as hell.

I havent taken any arimidex yet. Most people I have talked to told me to wait a few days if not a week from my first pin. But I already feel like Im holding a bit of extra water weight but Im gonna try to make it til monday. I am also a bit confused still about when exactly to start. Im gonna start at .25mg every day that I pin. Hopefully it will be ok. My joints have been cracking even with out taking it but I think that is due to all the extra weight I am using at the gym. Im also taking pharmacom Tbol at 40mg a day 20mg 1 hour before the gym and 20mg at night. But gonna bump it up to 60mg a day next week. My libido is def up like crazy I fucked my wife 4 times last night haha. And the pumps I get in the gym are unreal.

About the hcg Im not sure what kind u have. If its pregnyl I know ur supposed to refrigerate that. I am using the hcg from the pharmacist and u can keep that at room temp. My nuts have actually gotten bigger haha. But tomorrow is shoulder day then I have 2 days off.

Anyway glad to see ur getting on that hcg bro. Keep up the good work!
 
So today is pin number 2 and I'm a little anxious but excited at the same time. Last week I did my right glute and other than losing my balance and wobbling it went pretty well. I've been wanting to do my second pin since Friday but have stuck it out until today.

Today I plan on doing my left glute but being right handed I'm not looking forward to how awkward it's gonna be doing it with my left hand. Also going to lean against the bathroom sink to keep my balance this time. Will post how it goes soon.
 
Week 2 Day 7 Pin 2

So it went reasonably well. I NEED to get this jabbing motion nailed down. Twice I held it to the skin and pierced the skin before stopping because I felt it wasn't in the right place. 3rd attempt I thought fuck it and went in, they say go in at a 45 degree angle but I think I went in a lot smaller than that, probably like 30 degree. Pushed the pin all the way in, aspirated with no blood and pushed oil in over about 15-20 seconds.

I ran the oil under warm water first and this made a huge difference to how easy it is to push in.

Bled for a good 5 minutes when I took it out but I think this is probably from piercing the skin on two failed attempts. Started to get a bit of a burning sensation at pin site but not sure if that's also from piercing the skin.

Foam rolled pin site for 5 minutes and all seems fine for now, no real pain.

Off to gym to smash chest day.
 
Quads will be painful to start. After the first times it's easy. At least for me they were. But Glutes I never have pip.
 
Yeah glutes seem to be pretty painless for me so far. Its just a ballache getting into position and keeping balance on the weaker side.

Left glute was also difficult due to lack of muscle mass because of the back problems ive had. It doesnt feel like theres any muscle at all in the usual pin site quadrant but i obviously went into muscle as theres no pain so far.

Also by 30 degrees i meant 60 degrees.

Back from gym and theres really no difference at all now, seems the placebo effect has gone. Hopefully the real difference comes next week.
 
I didn't feel it until probably week 6 or so. I got my bloods early, like week 5 because I thought my stuff was bunk. Strength wasnt insane until about week 8. @MEEKmlz
 
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