Ruckin's first cycle log: test cyp only [IV gear]

[Colt44]

What guage are you pinning with?

 

[ruckin]

What guage are you pinning with?

25g 1.5 inch. I'm sure it's just cause I let the pin move around so much. It's not a very big deal since I'm still able to train normal for the most part, I just wasn't expecting nearly this much soreness.

 

[Colt44]

How lean are you? You can use slin pins in a lot of places. A lot less PIP in my experience. You plan on rotating sites or pinning glutes all 15 weeks?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

How lean are you? You can use slin pins in a lot of places. A lot less PIP in my experience. You plan on rotating sites or pinning glutes all 15 weeks?

Less PIP and less scar tissue with slins.

 

[ruckin]

How lean are you? You can use slin pins in a lot of places. A lot less PIP in my experience. You plan on rotating sites or pinning glutes all 15 weeks?

Less PIP and less scar tissue with slins.

meh... I'm no good at guessing bf percentages. I have a blurry 6 pack, that's about the best I can come up with haha. I'll look into slins, especially if i keep getting pip like this. I don't think it'll be nearly as bad as I get better at pinning though, I mean I REALLY had the needle wobbling around while I was trying to push the oil in, just cause I was nervous I guess. I'll have to try slins if this keeps up though.

And yes I'm planning to alternate each glue every week the whole cycle. I'm under the impression that those two spots are enough since I'm only pinning 1 & 2/3 ml once a week.

 

[Seven]

I was just messing with you the other day, sorry man. I remember (barely) my first half-ass cycle of sus 250 E5D, that shit hurt for a week!! 20 ga straw!! Try using a candle warmer to warm your oil up first, then it won't take as long to pin and try to relax. Idk about slin pins, but I saw this YT video about backloading.



I hope this helps. Good luck

 

[Colt44]

meh... I'm no good at guessing bf percentages. I have a blurry 6 pack, that's about the best I can come up with haha. I'll look into slins, especially if i keep getting pip like this. I don't think it'll be nearly as bad as I get better at pinning though, I mean I REALLY had the needle wobbling around while I was trying to push the oil in, just cause I was nervous I guess. I'll have to try slins if this keeps up though.

And yes I'm planning to alternate each glue every week the whole cycle. I'm under the impression that those two spots are enough since I'm only pinning 1 & 2/3 ml once a week.

Why pinning once a week?

 

[ruckin]

I was just messing with you the other day, sorry man. I remember (barely) my first half-ass cycle of sus 250 E5D, that shit hurt for a week!! 20 ga straw!! Try using a candle warmer to warm your oil up first, then it won't take as long to pin and try to relax. Idk about slin pins, but I saw this YT video about backloading.



I hope this helps. Good luck

ha don't worry brother I knew you were joking I'll try warming it up first next time. I don't have a candle warmer but I do have a heating pad I can use.

Why pinning once a week?

I've heard from multiple older guys that they've noticed through real life experience that pinning less frequently, and having that larger spike and larger valley in hormone levels seems to yield slightly better gains. So, I wanted to give that method a shot (pun intended). If the less steady levels start giving me unwanted sides I'll switch to more frequent pinning though.

 

[ruckin]

I did my first conditioning session of the cycle tonight, it was this drill where I have a square grid, about 50x50 yards, and running as fast as I can I start at one corner, run to the opposite corner, then along the side of the grid to the next corner, then across again to the opposite corner, and then along another side to where I started. That's 1 "lap". Each of these laps is ~240 yards, and I always do 2 consecutive laps per set, so each set is 480 yards total of running across and around this square. Tonight I did 4 sets with 65 seconds rest between sets. This is a little less than what I was able to do when my fitness was at it's peak a couple months ago but that's not what this part of the off-season is for so I'm fine with it. I'll be good if I can maintain that for the next month until real conditioning starts.

PIP is significantly better today, especially considering I was able to run, although it was painful at first, but I stopped noticing after the first set of runs.

I'm looking forward to a great workout tomorrow!

 

[ruckin]

So I've been doing some heavy duty catching up on my sleep this week and it's been amazing. I've been getting like 7-8 hours every night and also 1-2 hour naps almost every day. It's been so nice

I had a great workout tonight, most of my numbers have been going up very nicely.

power clean: 205x3x5
bench: 205x12,12,14 (goal was 3 sets of 12)
squat: 255x12x3
dumbbell rows: 95x11,11,12 (goal was 3 sets of 11)
paused incline bench: 160x12,11 (goal was 2 sets of 12)
chins: 248x7
power shrugs: 370x12x3
weighted planks: ---
dumbbell curls: 45sx12x3 supersetted with side raises: 45sx12x3

my gym closed before I got to the planks so sadly I didn't get to do them tonight. I have a couple 45 lb dumbbells at home though so I just finished the workout with the curls and raises when I got back.

This first week has been great so far! only 3 workouts in and I've already added 3 reps to that last set of bench press, I've added 5 lbs to my cleans, 3 reps to my press, 10 lbs to my squat in addition to it not being as difficult, so this has been a great way to get this cycle started. I wouldn't necessarily say I "feel" the test yet, but I can definitely notice benefits already. There's no way I would have been able to train a couple weeks ago like I've trained this week. I would have run myself into the ground in no time. I can't wait to see what I'm doing 3 weeks from now!

Anyway the pip in my glute is very minimal today. I wouldn't even call it pain or soreness anymore, more like just a little irritation. Good timing too since I'm pinning the other glute first thing tomorrow morning.

 

[ruckin]

Just finished my second pin, and it went waaaaaaaaay better than the first one last week. I heated the vial up in my heating pad for 20 minutes or so and pinned my right glute. I wasn't nervous at all this time so that was really nice, and I kept it from moving around much better than last time so I'm expecting a lot less pip there. I'm also laying in bed with the heating pad on my butt I type this so I hope that will help too.

About to head to work and I'm planning to do some light cardio after I get off. Hopefully I can get in a nice nap when I get home too

 

[HuckingFuge]

I did my first conditioning session of the cycle tonight, it was this drill where I have a square grid, about 50x50 yards, and running as fast as I can I start at one corner, run to the opposite corner, then along the side of the grid to the next corner, then across again to the opposite corner, and then along another side to where I started. That's 1 "lap". Each of these laps is ~240 yards, and I always do 2 consecutive laps per set, so each set is 480 yards total of running across and around this square. Tonight I did 4 sets with 65 seconds rest between sets. This is a little less than what I was able to do when my fitness was at it's peak a couple months ago but that's not what this part of the off-season is for so I'm fine with it. I'll be good if I can maintain that for the next month until real conditioning starts.

PIP is significantly better today, especially considering I was able to run, although it was painful at first, but I stopped noticing after the first set of runs.

I'm looking forward to a great workout tomorrow!

you might try sprinting 50y than walking 50y, than repeat.

 

[ruckin]

you might try sprinting 50y than walking 50y, than repeat.

I'm gonna start doing sprints as part of my weekly conditioning routine in a few weeks once the fall season draws closer. In the past I've usually done 100 yd sprints with 40-60 seconds between each, depending on how fit I am. I'm thinking of implementing shorter sprint distances this off-season though, now that you mention it. Maybe I'll do a pyramid type of thing and start with longer sprints and slowly shift towards shorter ones closer to 50 yds as the workout goes on.


Anyhow, the soreness in my right glute (the one I pinned yesterday morning) seems to actually be a bit better this morning than it was by last night. Also I woke up this morning crazy hungry. Not sure if it's the test increasing my appetite or if it's just in my head.

About to head to the gym now. I get to do deadlifts today YES!!!


EDIT: I'm gonna start posting cool songs for you guys in here, even though I'm probably gonna be the only one who likes most of them lol.

Fuck pre-workout supplements. Today's pre-workout is this:

 

[ruckin]

Today's workout:

Power cleans: 205x3x5
Press: 120x12x3
Front Squat: 195x12x3
Deadlift: 385x1x12 in 8 minutes
Paused Incline bench: 160x12x2
Chins: 245x5x4
Weighted planks: 70x30 sec x2

Training today went pretty well. The power cleans felt great, I'm pretty excited to bump that weight up to 210 on Thursday. Front squats sucked though, I was able to hit my goal numbers but they were very painful because of the soreness in my right glute. Deadlifts went great! I was aiming to get 10 total singles with the 385 I was using and I ended up with 12, so I'll be bumping that weight up to 395 next time and going for 10+ again.

I'm about to go take a nap now and I think I'm gonna head over to a park later and practice catching my own kicks. Catching kickoffs is easily the biggest weakness in my game so I really want to make it a strength throughout the summer. It would be nice if I had someone to come with me to kick to me, but I guess kicking to myself will have to do for now.

Edit: I just watched that music video I posted this morning and realized it's super weird lol. I still love the song though.

 

[Docd187123]

If you have enough gear or can get more Ruckin, I would suggest bumping your dose to 600-750mg a week of test.

 

[ruckin]

If you have enough gear or can get more Ruckin, I would suggest bumping your dose to 600-750mg a week of test.

I do have a good amount on hand. What makes you think I should do that?

 

[Docd187123]

I do have a good amount on hand. What makes you think I should do that?

I've seen a study, and while it's not conclusive on it's own, it states that there's an anabolic threshold or soemthing like that that's required for hypertrophy of type II muscle fibers bc type II fibers are less responsive to anabolic agents than type I fibers. 600mg was the dose mentioned if I'm remembering correctly and seeing as how a lot of UGL's are underdosed for whatever reason, 600-750mg should hopefully be enough. I know you're looking for explosive power and strength and type II muscle fibers are crucial for that. I'll see if I can find the study and link it here for you

 

[ruckin]

I've seen a study, and while it's not conclusive on it's own, it states that there's an anabolic threshold or soemthing like that that's required for hypertrophy of type II muscle fibers bc type II fibers are less responsive to anabolic agents than type I fibers. 600mg was the dose mentioned if I'm remembering correctly and seeing as how a lot of UGL's are underdosed for whatever reason, 600-750mg should hopefully be enough. I know you're looking for explosive power and strength and type II muscle fibers are crucial for that. I'll see if I can find the study and link it here for you

Sounds interesting, I'd like to read that. If that is true though, then I'm assuming they used pharma grade drugs for the study, meaning that 600 mg of pharma test would be equal to at LEAST 750 mg, assuming a best case scenario of 80% pure gear (unless it's overdosed a good amount).

Idk man, I've found myself to be a fan of the Mands school of thought, how he says he only uses a little over a gram or so per week, and he's a fucking tank. He also uses gh though...

Then there are guys like huckingfuge who seem to always suggest doubling your doses lol.

I'd like to get the most I possibly can out of 500 mg per week before I start upping doses, but I'd still like to read that study if you can find it.

 

[Docd187123]

Sounds interesting, I'd like to read that. If that is true though, then I'm assuming they used pharma grade drugs for the study, meaning that 600 mg of pharma test would be equal to at LEAST 750 mg, assuming a best case scenario of 80% pure gear (unless it's overdosed a good amount).

Idk man, I've found myself to be a fan of the Mands school of thought, how he says he only uses a little over a gram or so per week, and he's a fucking tank. He also uses gh though...

Then there are guys like huckingfuge who seem to always suggest doubling your doses lol.

I'd like to get the most I possibly can out of 500 mg per week before I start upping doses, but I'd still like to read that study if you can find it.

There's many ways to skin a cat. I'm not a fan of ridiculous doses just bc. Only if there's a specific reason for doing so. With regards to Mands, he is a tank, though I don't think strength and power are his primary goals (correct me if I'm wrong Mands). And that's not to say he isn't strong or you can't get strong with his ideology. Most of your muscle mass will come from type I fibers though so you can get bigger of course with lower dosages. You can also get stronger through neural adaptations. To get the most possible hypertrophy from type II muscle fibers though requires a slightly different training approach (dynamic effort, low rep high intensity, Oly lifts, etc) and at least according to the study I'm referencing, you'd need a minimum amount of Anabolics for the Anabolics to exert their effect on type II fibers.

Another member on my home board lasted the study a while back. I'm looking for it now. Post it when I find it

 

[Docd187123]

Found it!

Here's the important part I think

Important mechanisms behind the strong myotrophic effects of testosterone were first uncovered in a population of high-level powerlifters who reported the use of testosterone (100–500 mg week−1) for a period of 9±3.3 years (Kadi et al., 1999; Kadi, 2000). Long-term administration of testosterone accentuates the degree of fibre hypertrophy in already well-trained powerlifters (Kadi et al., 1999; Kadi, 2000). Testosterone induces the hypertrophy of both type I and type II muscle fibres. Type II muscle fibres are the largest muscle fibres in powerlifters both in steroid users and non-users. However, there is evidence suggesting that the largest difference in muscle fibre size between steroid users and non-users is observed in slow type I muscle fibres (Kadi et al., 1999; Kadi, 2000; Eriksson et al., 2005). In the trapezius muscle of steroid users, the area of type I muscle fibres is 58% larger than in non-users, whereas the area of type II muscle fibres is 33% larger than in non-users (Kadi et al., 1999). The same tendency is observed in the vastus lateralis (Eriksson et al., 2005). Accordingly, it has been shown that type I muscle fibres are more sensitive to anabolic agents than type II muscle fibres (Hartgens et al., 1996).Subsequently, it has been shown that the administration of 300 and 600 mg testosterone induced an increase in the area of type I muscle fibres, whereas type II muscle fibres enlarge only after administration of 600 mg testosterone (Sinha-Hikim et al., 2002).

And a link to the study

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2439525/#!po=62.0833