Daily or EOD test Cyp injections?????

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

Haha wow.

How did u feel on that?

Did u need an AI?

I wonder if it's more about the T:E ratio and less about the number.

I know guys running 500mg/wk without an AI.

Not saying that they won't run across other problems... But the fact that they don't need an AI is interesting.

As long as T is high enough... High e2 may not present a problem.

I don't know.

I had a friend to who did that. He didn't have any side effects but I pressured him Into getting some blood work and his estrogen was thru the fucking roof.

They may not think they need it bc they don't experience any harsh side effects but doesn't mean it's good.

 

[foreveryoung]

Interesting thread. You've gotten some solid feedback to work with. Please do report back. Hope all goes well.

well a week later of no tren and libido has definitely dropped drastically, and erections aren't as easy, but I think I feel better as far as mentally and mood and no headaches or anything which was something I was getting at times but thought might be due to too much coffee

hope the libido picks up because that was what made me go back on the last time I came off of the tren, my girl deserves sex and this low level of performance doesn't cut it for me either

 

[Nutpuncher]

well a week later of no tren and libido has definitely dropped drastically, and erections aren't as easy, but I think I feel better as far as mentally and mood and no headaches or anything which was something I was getting at times but thought might be due to too much coffee

hope the libido picks up because that was what made me go back on the last time I came off of the tren, my girl deserves sex and this low level of performance doesn't cut it for me either

Sorry, what was your weekly tren dose when you were using it.

 

[foreveryoung]

Sorry, what was your weekly tren dose when you were using it.

towards the end it was probably around 200mg per week max

 

[foreveryoung]

well a week later of no tren and libido has definitely dropped drastically, and erections aren't as easy, but I think I feel better as far as mentally and mood and no headaches or anything which was something I was getting at times but thought might be due to too much coffee

hope the libido picks up because that was what made me go back on the last time I came off of the tren, my girl deserves sex and this low level of performance doesn't cut it for me either

I should also mention that I am now taking 25 or 50mg of proviron per day on top of my 175mg to 200mg testosterone cyp per week

 

[Nutpuncher]

towards the end it was probably around 200mg per week max

Thanks. That's high dose considering how long you ran it.

I should also mention that I am now taking 25 or 50mg of proviron per day on top of my 175mg to 200mg testosterone cyp per week

How's provirion treating you? Pharma or UGL?

 

[foreveryoung]

right now libido is not that good, this happens to me every time I come off the tren, it doesn't matter what my testosterone levels are and if I take proviron or not, libido suffers, I just hope it bounces back soon before I end up going back on the tren

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

right now libido is not that good, this happens to me every time I come off the tren, it doesn't matter what my testosterone levels are and if I take proviron or not, libido suffers, I just hope it bounces back soon before I end up going back on the tren

Don't let it get to your head.
Libido has a huge psychological component.

 

[foreveryoung]

Don't let it get to your head.
Libido has a huge psychological component.

it does, yes, but I know what I am dealing with and I can tell where I am at, I don't get fooled by placebo effect or the opposite, if my libido is good it is damn good and I can't stop thinking about sex to the point of it interfering with my work.... when my libido is shitty my girl can try her hardest giving me a great blowjob and I will have a hard time even getting hard, when my libido is great I am rock hard before she even touches me

it is definitely a problem I have experienced before when coming off of long runs with tren, even when the tren is a low dose, after awhile it seems the brain/receptors get used to having very high androgen stimulation and when the tren is dropped, testosterone doesn't cut it anymore by itself, at least for awhile (I'm hoping a short while, last time this happened to me I just ended up adding the tren back in, but I really want to avoid that after learning some more of the bad effects of tren on the brain)

proviron is another thing that seems to help the most when your libido is already good, if your libido is in the shitter proviron often seems to do nothing at all for it

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

it does, yes, but I know what I am dealing with and I can tell where I am at, I don't get fooled by placebo effect or the opposite, if my libido is good it is damn good and I can't stop thinking about sex to the point of it interfering with my work.... when my libido is shitty my girl can try her hardest giving me a great blowjob and I will have a hard time even getting hard, when my libido is great I am rock hard before she even touches me

it is definitely a problem I have experienced before when coming off of long runs with tren, even when the tren is a low dose, after awhile it seems the brain/receptors get used to having very high androgen stimulation and when the tren is dropped, testosterone doesn't cut it anymore by itself, at least for awhile (I'm hoping a short while, last time this happened to me I just ended up adding the tren back in, but I really want to avoid that after learning some more of the bad effects of tren on the brain)

proviron is another thing that seems to help the most when your libido is already good, if your libido is in the shitter proviron often seems to do nothing at all for it

Did you try adding low masterone for libodo?

 

[foreveryoung]

Did you try adding low masterone for libodo?

done tons of experimenting with masteron and it is not helpful for libido in my experience, it is great for tightening up though, but it has some other sides that make it a tough choice to go on long term, I have some still but am avoiding using it

 

[Jq88]

I'm definitely going daily.

My most recent labs prove it.

100mg cyp and .25mg Adex teice a week.

Ups and downs complete roller coaster ride.

Though numbers look perfect!

TT 678 (249-836)

FT 194 (30-150)

E2 17 (7-49)

This was on a trough day.

 

[Whoremoans]

I've done ED and EOD injections with test cyp. Will it give you more stable blood levels? Yes. Will it provide better results than pinning cyp twice a week? Probably not.

 

[crossfitisgay]

i am only doing the 1/10cc cyp ED cause im also doing Mast Prop (which i prefer ED) so i am using 28g 1/2" slins to quad or delt and am liking it a lot. Otherwise indeed it may not be worth it so much.

Edit doing .4cc Mast P (150mg/ml) ED with my .1cc Test C

 

[Jq88]

So you're running 20mg of cyp everyday???

 

[Jq88]

I've done ED and EOD injections with test cyp. Will it give you more stable blood levels? Yes. Will it provide better results than pinning cyp twice a week? Probably not.

So what are you running now?

 

[Whoremoans]

So what are you running now?

I'm not running anything right now. havent pinned anything since August 2015. I'll be starting a cycle soon though.

 

[crossfitisgay]

So you're running 20mg of cyp everyday???

.1cc of 250mg/ml test C everyday...so 25mg i unless my math is that bad

 

[Jq88]

I'm not running anything right now. havent pinned anything since August 2015. I'll be starting a cycle soon though.

Oh I'm sorry I meant for TRT purposes.

I'd love to get off AI completely.

 

[Jq88]

.1cc of 250mg/ml test C everyday...so 25mg i unless my math is that bad

How long have you been running this?

Do you use an AI?

Where does your e2 sit?