Exemestane... the truth

[LittleD90]

Twice weekly dosing is not ideal at all. It's suggested as a convenience for beginners pinning at the same rate, timing suppression with peaks (in theory).

Ok

 

[LittleD90]

No but we have paragraphs, commas and sentence structure to be able to communicate with each other.

If your trying to post something interesting or useful, I'd suggest it would be a better approach to make it readable.

Ok bud

 

[foxace36]

Twice weekly dosing is not ideal at all. It's suggested as a convenience for beginners pinning at the same rate, timing suppression with peaks (in theory).

What would you say is ideal?

 

[Leancuisine]

You know, the reason for dosing EOD is to prevent spikes in hormones.

The reason people take them EOD is because they are taking 500mg or so of testosterone. How much test were those WOMEN taking that the studies were performed on? Oh they weren't taking any? Yeah that's what I thought.

Additionally it doesn't take 1-2 weeks for those enzymes to be re produced, it takes days.

Maybe if you were taking aromasin to boost your test levels a little bit as a natty, yeah sure dosing twice a week might benefit you.
For the average male that is taking exogenous testosterone.... twice a week dosing would be pretty worthless. Causing unnecessary highs and lows in your hormones.

 

[2legit2quit]

What would you say is ideal?

EOD for stability.

 

[Eman]

You know, the reason for dosing EOD is to prevent spikes in hormones.

The reason people take them EOD is because they are taking 500mg or so of testosterone. How much test were those WOMEN taking that the studies were performed on? Oh they weren't taking any? Yeah that's what I thought.

Additionally it doesn't take 1-2 weeks for those enzymes to be re produced, it takes days.

Maybe if you were taking aromasin to boost your test levels a little bit as a natty, yeah sure dosing twice a week might benefit you.
For the average male that is taking exogenous testosterone.... twice a week dosing would be pretty worthless. Causing unnecessary highs and lows in your hormones.

You posted studies which prove you're an idiot and you're wrong in your OP hahahahahahahahahaha. I can't even find comedy like this on Comedy Central.

Be careful you two... He may shun you and stop replying to your ignorant comments.

 

[Docd187123]

Be careful you two... He may shun you and stop replying to your ignorant comments.

I'm TIRED OF YOUR INSOLENCE Eman! Fucking tired of it. If I wish to remain ignorant in light of OP's all knowing glory then so be it.

 

[Eman]

I'm TIRED OF YOUR INSOLENCE Eman! Fucking tired of it. If I wish to remain ignorant in light of OP's all knowing glory then so be it.

Have you been taking your aromasin just once a week? Might want to move that to an EOD approach bud.

 

[Riz]

lol.

If you are using any form of test expect aromatization. Obviously some more than others.

12.5 mg every other day isn't high at all. That is why it is important to get bloods while on cycle to see where that puts your estrogen.

When I was on just 500 mgs of test E I needed 25 mgs of aromasin every other day to keep my Estrodial in range.

At 12.5 mg EOD of aromasin my Estrodial was through the roof.

Bottom line: blood work, blood work, and blood work.

 

[JC456]

I'd take it on an 'as required' basis.

Don't schedule it.

 

[TheBeat]

Yeah I only convert estrogen on Sundays and therefore only take my exemestane on Monday mornings to make sure it's getting it all and then there's no more test available to convert or enzyme to convert it til next Sunday.

....this is what happens when someone gets a little information and doesn't understand the big picture.
A little knowledge is dangerous and leads to long ignorant posts.

 

[Ophydian]

Someone needs to reduce their AI dosage.

 

[CAswole]

At 12.5mg pharma aromasin mon-wed-fri... my e2 still came back at 152....
This was a test only blast

 

[penche]

Fing wasted my time just scrolling on this fing noobs post. Got dammit i won't get my 30 Seconds back. Either way I use adex lmao

Here some labs on .5adex every day pharma grade too Teva brand. Test E 1.2 grams. Shit my free Test is the level of who have a total
That's how I roll on blast lil G


Estro was 79

 

[tenpoundsleft]

entertaining thread

@Docd187123 - somehow it seems as if a combo of arimidex and aromasin would be ideal - aromasin to kill off some of the E2, and arimidex to suppress. Point being to avoid some of the negatives with arimidex, specifically the LDL/HDL issue.

 

[EazyE]

entertaining thread

@Docd187123 - somehow it seems as if a combo of arimidex and aromasin would be ideal - aromasin to kill off some of the E2, and arimidex to suppress. Point being to avoid some of the negatives with arimidex, specifically the LDL/HDL issue.

However overall a good series of posts to get everyone thinking about better protocols when using these products. Experience and bloods can't be denied or replaced. I love these debates.

 

[penche]

entertaining thread

@Docd187123 - somehow it seems as if a combo of arimidex and aromasin would be ideal - aromasin to kill off some of the E2, and arimidex to suppress. Point being to avoid some of the negatives with arimidex, specifically the LDL/HDL issue.

Meh.. none of them effected me much on my hdl/ldl lipid profile. These guys should be more concerned with what stair rods will wreck their lipid profile than ancillaries. I've ran letro even at 2.5mg per day to destroy my estro down to kill some gyno while using tamoxifen. Yea I murdered it but my bones hurt. Adex, aro or letro can be used at any regimen according to how much hormones convert to estro. It is that simple. I have labs to prove it. Fellas ya don't need to make this shit rocket
Science. If You still experience gyno then run a serm like Novla to kill it and get bloods to see where the estro is at. If it's in check then your prone to that hormone that was added. Run Novla along the side of the ancillary. Drop the added hormone. If it was test then this game isn't for you.

 

[Docd187123]

entertaining thread

@Docd187123 - somehow it seems as if a combo of arimidex and aromasin would be ideal - aromasin to kill off some of the E2, and arimidex to suppress. Point being to avoid some of the negatives with arimidex, specifically the LDL/HDL issue.

JC's post from earlier is what I do. Only take an AI as required. Required doesn't mean your E2 comes back slightly over range. It means significamt symptoms present themselves.

Once the need for an AI has been determined, the next step is deciding which path to choose. Aromasin being the weakest and not being out as long as adex and letro (meaning it has less time being studied) would be my last choice. Adex is first. Studies are mixed in that some find no effect on lipids and others find a mild to moderate effect on lipids. You can't make a blanket statement that everyone's lipids will be affected by adex bc it just won't happen to everyone. If your lipids get shit on and nothing you do improves them, lowering dose of AAS for example and/or adex and/or other tricks, then it's time to consider aromasin IMO.

The argument that aromasin is suicidal and "kills" the aromatase enzyme just holds no weight in the big picture. The body will respond by making new enzymes and contrary to what the dumb ass OP stated, it's a lot quicker than 1-2wks. There has been no clinical benefit shown in ANY of the studies I've ever seen on aromasin. Ppl talk up that quality to make it sound like it's worth something when it is clearly worth nothing.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

lol.

If you are using any form of test expect aromatization. Obviously some more than others.

12.5 mg every other day isn't high at all. That is why it is important to get bloods while on cycle to see where that puts your estrogen.

When I was on just 500 mgs of test E I needed 25 mgs of aromasin every other day to keep my Estrodial in range.

At 12.5 mg EOD of aromasin my Estrodial was through the roof.

Bottom line: blood work, blood work, and blood work.

Bloodwork? What will you do with them?

Confirm that your T is way above range but trying to keep your E2 in range?
Do you think that makes any sense?

Why not have a more rational and pragmatic approach which would be to go by the symptoms, ie libido, penile function, nipple sensitivity, water retention?

The whole "E2 needs to be in range" while you have supraphysiological testosterone levels doesn't make endocrinological sense. Your health biomarkers are affected by a balance and a proper ratio of the two, to which equation you also need to add DHT.

 

[JC456]

Good posts by @Docd187123 and @Goingstronger I agree.

On the subject of lipids. Low levels of estrogen in general prevent the correction of hdl/ldl levels in the body. It is estrogen dependant, not AI dependant. Typically the stronger ones like letro hurt the lipids more because.... they effect estrogen more.