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Welcome to Meso. What are your stats? How many cycles have you done? How long have you been training? Tell us a little about yourself
 
Welcome to Meso. What are your stats? How many cycles have you done? How long have you been training? Tell us a little about yourself
Tried test twice when I was young and had no clue what I was doing. Knew nothing about pct or anything else really. Didn't have smart phones back then, ya know? That was about 14-16 years ago and I hung it up after that until now. My buddy did tren last year and loved it so I'm giving it a go. 500mg test cyp per week, started 4 weeks ago and not seeing or feeling much from it. I've seen people say it can take 5 weeks or so to get anything out of it so I assume that's the case. Two weeks ago I started tren ace 75mg rod. I think I'm gonna switch to 50mg ed. I've seen many people say that ed works better. Comments welcome
 
Tried test twice when I was young and had no clue what I was doing. Knew nothing about pct or anything else really. Didn't have smart phones back then, ya know? That was about 14-16 years ago and I hung it up after that until now. My buddy did tren last year and loved it so I'm giving it a go. 500mg test cyp per week, started 4 weeks ago and not seeing or feeling much from it. I've seen people say it can take 5 weeks or so to get anything out of it so I assume that's the case. Two weeks ago I started tren ace 75mg rod. I think I'm gonna switch to 50mg ed. I've seen many people say that ed works better. Comments welcome

What brand test is it? Whats your PCT look like? And are you taking HCG?
 
What brand test is it? Whats your PCT look like? And are you taking HCG?
Test is biomex labs but I'm about to run out. I have some sus 250 by Spectrum Pharma that I got from DG. I'm not taking hcg, should I be? Also, no pct because I plan on staying on the test.
 
I think you should run HCG any time your on test at 500iu twice a week.

I've never had a problem with any DG products.

Why are you planning on staying on test?
 
I think you should run HCG any time your on test at 500iu twice a week.

I've never had a problem with any DG products.

Why are you planning on staying on test?
Went to the doc and my T level was 450. I started looking in to it and it seemed that my level shouldn't be that low until much later in life. Also, I read that your level can drop as much as 30% by bed time. So that would put me at 320 - 330. At almost 35 years old I rather not spend the rest of my life feeling like something is off. And because I'm not below 250 the doc said that insurance wouldn't approve TRT. So that's why I started. I never planned on doing tren but my buddy loved it so I figured I'd give it a shot.
 
Went to the doc and my T level was 450. I started looking in to it and it seemed that my level shouldn't be that low until much later in life. Also, I read that your level can drop as much as 30% by bed time. So that would put me at 320 - 330. At almost 35 years old I rather not spend the rest of my life feeling like something is off. And because I'm not below 250 the doc said that insurance wouldn't approve TRT. So that's why I started. I never planned on doing tren but my buddy loved it so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Self administered TRT. Make sure you go back down to TRT dose after you blast. You can add tren or any other compound on your blast.
 
Self administered TRT. Make sure you go back down to TRT dose after you blast. You can add tren or any other compound on your blast.
Yeah that's what I was planning. After the tren I'll go down to around 200 and see how that feels. On a side note, I've been on the test for just under 5 weeks now and I'm not noticing a lot from it. At 500mg per week what should I be feeling? Is it still a little too early?
 
Yeah that's what I was planning. After the tren I'll go down to around 200 and see how that feels. On a side note, I've been on the test for just under 5 weeks now and I'm not noticing a lot from it. At 500mg per week what should I be feeling? Is it still a little too early?

Still a little early but you should deff be feeling something soon. Usually by the 6th week is when it really starts kicking in. Increased aggression, more focused, more energy, oily skin, etc. You will know when you feel it.
 
Yeah that's what I was planning. After the tren I'll go down to around 200 and see how that feels. On a side note, I've been on the test for just under 5 weeks now and I'm not noticing a lot from it. At 500mg per week what should I be feeling? Is it still a little too early?
Imo you should cruise at the smallest dose you can handle. 125mg should be fine. Get bloodwork done consistently. It's the ONLY way to know what's going on. So many guys say "yea I'll be getting bloodwork in 6 weeks..." and never do. Don't go off how you feel. That can be very misleading. Also do you have an AI on hand? Arimidex, Aromasin...?
 
Imo you should cruise at the smallest dose you can handle. 125mg should be fine. Get bloodwork done consistently. It's the ONLY way to know what's going on. So many guys say "yea I'll be getting bloodwork in 6 weeks..." and never do. Don't go off how you feel. That can be very misleading. Also do you have an AI on hand? Arimidex, Aromasin...?
I don't have those things. The only domestic source I know of is kinda high if they even have it.
 
I've never taken one. Does it matter which one? If I need to take it, how will I know based on feel?
Honestly bud just by your answers you're unprepared to be taking steroids. Not being a dick but u should have a better handle on something you're putting in your body and the necessary things that go with that...i.e. AI. And you also appear to have missed my comment about not going off of feeling getting blood work. Going off of your anecdotal evidence without blood work is not going to tell you much and could actually give you an entirely wrong impression of what's going on. Do some research buddy. You do need an hey I, at least on hand if you start having high estrogen like symptoms. Do your research find out what those are and if you have experience them. research anti-estrogen drugs, how they are used and at what dosage while using steroids and like I said get blood work done. You jumped in with both feet too fast so you have a lot of catch-up to do
 
Honestly bud just by your answers you're unprepared to be taking steroids. Not being a dick but u should have a better handle on something you're putting in your body and the necessary things that go with that...i.e. AI. And you also appear to have missed my comment about not going off of feeling getting blood work. Going off of your anecdotal evidence without blood work is not going to tell you much and could actually give you an entirely wrong impression of what's going on. Do some research buddy. You do need an hey I, at least on hand if you start having high estrogen like symptoms. Do your research find out what those are and if you have experience them. research anti-estrogen drugs, how they are used and at what dosage while using steroids and like I said get blood work done. You jumped in with both feet too fast so you have a lot of catch-up to do
No offense taken. Thanks for all of the advice, I really do appreciate it.
 
I agree with @CAswole You really only want to do self administered TRT as a final option. Its a lifetime commitment.

Just a little information for you about cycling. This is what an average test cycle looks like:

12-15 weeks of Test E or Cyp 500mg a week
HCG 500iu twice a week
AI on hand and taken when needed during cycle
PCT Nolva and Clomid taken 2 weeks after last shot

I recommend doing HCG and AI when on Test. Do a lot more research before you make this lifetime commitment.
 
I agree with @CAswole You really only want to do self administered TRT as a final option. Its a lifetime commitment.

Just a little information for you about cycling. This is what an average test cycle looks like:

12-15 weeks of Test E or Cyp 500mg a week
HCG 500iu twice a week
AI on hand and taken when needed during cycle
PCT Nolva and Clomid taken 2 weeks after last shot

I recommend doing HCG and AI when on Test. Do a lot more research before you make this lifetime commitment.
I will definitely continue to educate myself. I realize I have a lot to learn. I didn't assume it would be as simple as a shot or two every week. I will look into AI uses and dosing
 
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