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out of the raw sources available purple panda is best, then i'd say SR and then i'm done as i wouldnt even bother with any of the others. i was apart of a log on sr's tren and mast prop anyway he seemed to like it, purple panda i would trust but really it depends on the batch because unless there creating it there buying it and they could have somebody who manufactures it underdosing it selling it to panda or sr or landmark and then they themselves underdose it again for more proffit or leave it the way it is and charge a highrer price because they arent gonna worry about people not buying it because its more potent than competitors and they all test eachothers stuff to one up eachother, stay away from that maxsource pricck he created 5 accounts, emails facebooks, just to try to get me. so be forwarded about that dude. ''Maxsource Hubei'' or maxsource roy or whatever. but raws are better than finished shit anyway you can for less money use 3 times as much as with a finished oil thats got a brand lavbel put on it. sure usually there a bit more potent but there all derived from raws so when you find a good raw supplier your good as fuckin gold.
 
Let me ask you guys... I know this is the wrong section so if I get flamed I get it.. I cut a bunch of fat lost some mass as well. kept a fair ammount arms and legs are lean, as well as everywhere else. Even seeing top abs come in super light obviously but I have the little pouch at the bottom. What do you think the best substance would be to to add a bit off mass in stomach area while loosing fat on top of diet is dialed in correctly. I do not think I should continue the cut.. think I have to build up a little more again .. I could do it naturally as well just checking though
 
Db71195gainzzz said:
Let me ask you guys... I know this is the wrong section so if I get flamed I get it.. I cut a bunch of fat lost some mass as well. kept a fair ammount arms and legs are lean, as well as everywhere else. Even seeing top abs come in super light obviously but I have the little pouch at the bottom. What do you think the best substance would be to to add a bit off mass in stomach area while loosing fat on top of diet is dialed in correctly. I do not think I should continue the cut.. think I have to build up a little more again .. I could do it naturally as well just checking though
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i'm gonna get jumped on this for sure but i dont fucking care, anavar has science behind it for losing trunk fat and studies on NPP at 10mg/kg per day show it has extreme fat loss properties. now you obviously wont do that much npp so i think 100mg of tren a day is perfectly within reason as everyone on this board is conservative. you could actually just do some trt/hrt low dose test with tren or npp at a decent level with some anavar at an appropriate dose not a pathetic 40mg and if you eat a bit cleaner or just lower the carbs and throw in a very mild carb up day every 5-6 days or hell once a week like the 70's guys did that'd be fine too. do that and its still on a somewhat lighter end of a cycle nothing too crazy BY ANY STRETCH. you should be able to gain 15 lbs on that and lose some bodyfat within 8 weeks. i for one am not conservative and no how safe anavar really is so if i could afford it i'd be throwing that down with as much mast prop as i possibly could and thats the least painful behind eq pip wise. but dont do what i do. but the good thing about tren is it doesnt matter how much you use because its always something that works, it doesnt seem to wane like other drugs so if your a super conservative nut then do 50mg a day any less is just at the point of lunacy really and run it for a longer period. i for one cant be bothered, i always like to get in get out, recover a bit then jump in again with something different rather than drag shit out so long that its stopped being effective at week 6 to 8 and i've got another 6-8 weeks left. tailor the drugs you use to the goal at hand.
 
TheUglyTruth said:
i'm gonna get jumped on this for sure but i dont fucking care, anavar has science behind it for losing trunk fat and studies on NPP at 10mg/kg per day show it has extreme fat loss properties. now you obviously wont do that much npp so i think 100mg of tren a day is perfectly within reason as everyone on this board is conservative. you could actually just do some trt/hrt low dose test with tren or npp at a decent level with some anavar at an appropriate dose not a pathetic 40mg and if you eat a bit cleaner or just lower the carbs and throw in a very mild carb up day every 5-6 days or hell once a week like the 70's guys did that'd be fine too. do that and its still on a somewhat lighter end of a cycle nothing too crazy BY ANY STRETCH. you should be able to gain 15 lbs on that and lose some bodyfat within 8 weeks. i for one am not conservative and no how safe anavar really is so if i could afford it i'd be throwing that down with as much mast prop as i possibly could and thats the least painful behind eq pip wise. but dont do what i do. but the good thing about tren is it doesnt matter how much you use because its always something that works, it doesnt seem to wane like other drugs so if your a super conservative nut then do 50mg a day any less is just at the point of lunacy really and run it for a longer period. i for one cant be bothered, i always like to get in get out, recover a bit then jump in again with something different rather than drag shit out so long that its stopped being effective at week 6 to 8 and i've got another 6-8 weeks left. tailor the drugs you use to the goal at hand.
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Can you shed some light on the Var Fat loss science you speak of. I would like to read.

Thanks Brother
 
TheUglyTruth said:
i'm gonna get jumped on this for sure but i dont fucking care, anavar has science behind it for losing trunk fat and studies on NPP at 10mg/kg per day show it has extreme fat loss properties. now you obviously wont do that much npp so i think 100mg of tren a day is perfectly within reason as everyone on this board is conservative. you could actually just do some trt/hrt low dose test with tren or npp at a decent level with some anavar at an appropriate dose not a pathetic 40mg and if you eat a bit cleaner or just lower the carbs and throw in a very mild carb up day every 5-6 days or hell once a week like the 70's guys did that'd be fine too. do that and its still on a somewhat lighter end of a cycle nothing too crazy BY ANY STRETCH. you should be able to gain 15 lbs on that and lose some bodyfat within 8 weeks. i for one am not conservative and no how safe anavar really is so if i could afford it i'd be throwing that down with as much mast prop as i possibly could and thats the least painful behind eq pip wise. but dont do what i do. but the good thing about tren is it doesnt matter how much you use because its always something that works, it doesnt seem to wane like other drugs so if your a super conservative nut then do 50mg a day any less is just at the point of lunacy really and run it for a longer period. i for one cant be bothered, i always like to get in get out, recover a bit then jump in again with something different rather than drag shit out so long that its stopped being effective at week 6 to 8 and i've got another 6-8 weeks left. tailor the drugs you use to the goal at hand.
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Lol, where did you get this info that NPP @ 10mg/kg aids in fat loss? I’m just wondering because it is just a random odd ratio, which I happen to be using at the moment.
 
Morefyah said:
Lol, where did you get this info that NPP @ 10mg/kg aids in fat loss? I’m just wondering because it is just a random odd ratio, which I happen to be using at the moment.
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rat study and it was npp not deca, paul Borresen was one of the guys that admitted to doing 800mg of deca a day once, i hafve a friend going up to 6g. its effect kick in faster than people think at higher doses and its effects wane faster than people think also which is why you have people like Taeian clark saying limit it to 6 weeks and thats deca not npp. but thats 7g a week for a 220 lb bodybuilder. Tom Platz for one gave the advice to do 1 amp of deca a day and he said the most winstrol he did was 130mg and he NEVER used test. so theres lots of outside the box thinkers. i didnt create the ratio it was dose related/dependent fat loss. the weight gain did not increase from 5mg/kg but the recomposition improved dramatically. this was in female rats but can somewhat be applied to humans and is amazing anyway. the other ratio in the test was tiny like 2mg/kg.
 
Cail_Hoops said:
Can you shed some light on the Var Fat loss science you speak of. I would like to read.

Thanks Brother
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firstly i've talked to Pete Grymkowski the grandmaster of Anavar, who should know it better than anyone, (his doses were absurd though, i've had anecdotal reports form guys who said it was crazy at 200mg a day. which was a bit less than a bottle a day as the original pills were 2.5mg.

Treatment with oxandrolone and the durability of effects in older men. - PubMed - NCBI thats a study on old men with tiny doses and obviously, piss poor workouts as they were very very old

kenny Waller albeit being a total prick also shared the opinion that Anavar did actually help with fatloss besides being just another steroid which had minimal water it actually helped with specifically the trunk fat and in high doses visceral fat in that area. thus why the guys with tiny waists everyone was jealous of that were doing 200mg a day kept that to themselves for 20 years. i'm trying to find the study on it, now but i'm only finding some piss weak ones which arent what i saw before.


also was rumored to be one of the only steroids to not close your growth plates so theoretically could be used during puberty. that i wont support 100% because i just odnt know all i know is that its a far more mild steroid than any other one except proviron and that doesnt even count and a good way to handle orals better is to adopt a good protocol for organ safety which i also got from Pete Grymkowski and that was drinking lots of cranberry and pomegranate juice to flush out the kidneys,livers and help the prostate. so you dont have issues with urinating and so on.

Medical study: twelve weeks on oxandrolone another crappy study that shows you cant maintain the muscle gain from anavar (well none of these guys worked out at all by the way) but the fat loss did stay even 3 months afterwards. weight gain was dose dependent for all the hiv studies i've ever seen

The Effect of Oxandrolone on the Endocrinologic, Inflammatory, and Hypermetabolic Responses During the Acute Phase Postburn
heres another one on burn victims stating it improved body composition and i assume they were not dieting or training as they were burn victims.


this took only a little while so i'm sure if i really delved into it i might be able to find the older stuff that i was talking about, this is some weak general jist.
 
In my opinion and Pete's the reason why orals are used wrong is because people arent protecting themselves right, because stress on the liver is simply you not being able to get rid of impurities fast enough, so if you had lots of antioxidants like white tea with hot not boiling water and the pom and the cranberry juice not the sugar filled shit, that does the job. i for one when i do orals high i a) dont run it as long, but b) do enhanced athlete AAS support and then 5% organ defender as thats a little different and has stuff for the skin and a few more things for the heart but if pills get annoying get the blackstone labs cycle support as they have a shake version that taste good. Ameen Alai recommends you take orals with a certain time of oil dunno if it was flax or whatever but apparently slowed the breakdown of it so it was a little easier on you. just though ti'd mention this as some people say oh 100mg or more of anavar is insanity blah blah when really its tailored to the individual and there regime of organ care including supplements and diet tailored to organ care.
 
This seems insane. At 220lbs I am 99kg. So in order for this study to translate to me I would have to inject 990mg of NPP everyday.
Even at 1mg/kg you’re looking at 700mg a week NPP.
Am I understanding this correctly?
 
TheUglyTruth said:
In my opinion and Pete's the reason why orals are used wrong is because people arent protecting themselves right, because stress on the liver is simply you not being able to get rid of impurities fast enough, so if you had lots of antioxidants like white tea with hot not boiling water and the pom and the cranberry juice not the sugar filled shit, that does the job. i for one when i do orals high i a) dont run it as long, but b) do enhanced athlete AAS support and then 5% organ defender as thats a little different and has stuff for the skin and a few more things for the heart but if pills get annoying get the blackstone labs cycle support as they have a shake version that taste good. Ameen Alai recommends you take orals with a certain time of oil dunno if it was flax or whatever but apparently slowed the breakdown of it so it was a little easier on you. just though ti'd mention this as some people say oh 100mg or more of anavar is insanity blah blah when really its tailored to the individual and there regime of organ care including supplements and diet tailored to organ care.
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This is the biggest crock of shit I’ve ever heard! White tea, POM, and enhanced athletes AAS support is going to protect your liver. Hahah
 
El Capitan said:
This seems insane. At 220lbs I am 99kg. So in order for this study to translate to me I would have to inject 990mg of NPP everyday.
Even at 1mg/kg you’re looking at 700mg a week NPP.
Am I understanding this correctly?
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oh yeah. it's why the results are so crazy in the study as the rats were getting comparative results to if a human did it, i think. if i shoot up 8g of npp or whatever i think it'll produce a much thicker look then that of test at the same amount. bloat isnt there when the test isnt present or is very very low. infact i'm putting myself out there and saying after my cruise i'll be doing a short high intensity blast cycle of 8g of deca and high dose winstrol for 4-6 weeks as i prefer to cycle that way in and out because with the volumes i do i tend to get annoyed with it all. i never implied it was going to protect your liver, i implied its going to protect your liver to the best that one can. lets at least get that straight, if you down a bottle of halo some milk thistle wont cut it, i get it. but you can maximize organ support which most dont, THATS the point not to follow this or do this or its the best way. i just consider it a method that is for those that want to take the best car eof there organs while on something that isnt particular kind to them and its a fuck load better than just saying oh yep i'll just have a few grams of milk thistle and thats it.
 
TheUglyTruth said:
oh yeah. it's why the results are so crazy in the study as the rats were getting comparative results to if a human did it, i think. if i shoot up 8g of npp or whatever i think it'll produce a much thicker look then that of test at the same amount. bloat isnt there when the test isnt present or is very very low. infact i'm putting myself out there and saying after my cruise i'll be doing a short high intensity blast cycle of 8g of deca and high dose winstrol for 4-6 weeks as i prefer to cycle that way in and out because with the volumes i do i tend to get annoyed with it all. i never implied it was going to protect your liver, i implied its going to protect your liver to the best that one can. lets at least get that straight, if you down a bottle of halo some milk thistle wont cut it, i get it. but you can maximize organ support which most dont, THATS the point not to follow this or do this or its the best way. i just consider it a method that is for those that want to take the best car eof there organs while on something that isnt particular kind to them and its a fuck load better than just saying oh yep i'll just have a few grams of milk thistle and thats it.
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8g?
 
Morefyah said:
This is the biggest crock of shit I’ve ever heard! White tea, POM, and enhanced athletes AAS support is going to protect your liver. Hahah
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It wont, it's the best way to go about protecting it vs the bullshit weak methods of today which are 1 serving of some all in one product and then people wonder why they cant even handle 80mg of anavar and think its because of the fact there sensitive when it MIGHT be the fact they've taken zero care of there liver. i for one have never drank and never smoked and never did rec drugs, and maximized my organ support protocol to the best that one can ^^^ this isnt it. i've been perfectly dandy. but hell i dont want anyone to be thinking any of these doses are recommendations or optimal. its what i want, and whatever the fuck the person in the study wanted.
 
Morefyah said:
This dude is trolling hard this morning!
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not a troll, not my studies, my opinion, thats all. i'm not sitting here thoroughly entertained or anything if i were gonna troll i wouldnt fuckin be here of all places, this place is full of sourpusses with a my way or the highway kind of attitude which is why i only answer personal messages usually.
 
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