Best Option Cycle To Run

[Gary007]

Stats:

6'1 185 lbs 16-17% BF. 25

Trying to bulk gain muscle but dont wanna gain too much body fat as im already possibly 16-17 BF %.

I know all the stuff people will say so just do me a favour and dont even bother about Oral Tbol Cycle or SARMs.

I was looking to run a 8 week cycle of Oral Tbol with PCT of Clomid and Nolva or run LGD and Rad140 together and run same PCT.
I was wondering which would give me the best possible gains in terms of my situation and also which will be easier to keep gain with as well.

Gonna say it again dont need flaming just need good advice so dont waste my time and yours I know the consequences and bad sides of both cycles.

 

[Whey2big]

Being completely honest id cut on test prop for just 8 weeks, get that bodyfat below 10% then bulk with test e and the Tbol and you’ll love the results.. Tbol without Test is a bad idea because of suppression and also your bodyfat is a little high to see any significant changes in physique.

 

[Gary007]

Being completely honest id cut on test prop for just 8 weeks, get that bodyfat below 10% then bulk with test e and the Tbol and you’ll love the results.. Tbol without Test is a bad idea because of suppression and also your bodyfat is a little high to see any significant changes in physique.

Yeah I thought about that bro but I really feel ima fuck myself over I have more of a Lankier Skinny Fat body used to and Im doing recomp for about 1-2 years to balance out my body and I feel like if I cut at this time ill just lose what I've done and my strength

 

[Whey2big]

Yeah I thought about that bro but I really feel ima fuck myself over I have more of a Lankier Skinny Fat body used to and Im doing recomp for about 1-2 years to balance out my body and I feel like if I cut at this time ill just lose what I've done and my strength

Personally not saying I’m a guru or anything because I went overboard on my bulk and I’m trying to get below 10% myself if I was recomping I’d make sure to stay under 13%.. Depending on the compounds you use and nutrition you shouldn’t have to worry about losing much size, I’d get bone shredded then do a nice lean bulk. But at the end of the day it’s personal preference, you might look worse bulking at that bf % but you’ll save cutting compounds you can use after your bulk when you’re bigger. All about how comfortable you are with your bf..

 

[Gary007]

Personally not saying I’m a guru or anything because I went overboard on my bulk and I’m trying to get below 10% myself if I was recomping I’d make sure to stay under 13%.. Depending on the compounds you use and nutrition you shouldn’t have to worry about losing much size, I’d get bone shredded then do a nice lean bulk. But at the end of the day it’s personal preference, you might look worse bulking at that bf % but you’ll save cutting compounds you can use after your bulk when you’re bigger. All about how comfortable you are with your bf..

Wouldn't Tbol with test or without test still cause suppression after cycle? and yeah I guess I can do it both ways but I kinda wanted to Bulk up first get to a good size and then cut out my BF as im comfortable with not being in great physique first

 

[Whey2big]

Wouldn't Tbol with test or without test still cause suppression after cycle? and yeah I guess I can do it both ways but I kinda wanted to Bulk up first get to a good size and then cut out my BF as im comfortable with not being in great physique first

Yes but I’m saying during your cycle you’ll have suppression where with test added you would at least have it there so even though you’re being suppressed you won’t feel like ass during the cycle

 

[Mimmik]

Stats:

6'1 185 lbs 16-17% BF. 25

Trying to bulk gain muscle but dont wanna gain too much body fat as im already possibly 16-17 BF %.

I know all the stuff people will say so just do me a favour and dont even bother about Oral Tbol Cycle or SARMs.

I was looking to run a 8 week cycle of Oral Tbol with PCT of Clomid and Nolva or run LGD and Rad140 together and run same PCT.
I was wondering which would give me the best possible gains in terms of my situation and also which will be easier to keep gain with as well.

Gonna say it again dont need flaming just need good advice so dont waste my time and yours I know the consequences and bad sides of both cycles.

Don’t do steroids. You’re tall and fat which means you’re lazy and want the easy way out.

Personally not saying I’m a guru or anything because I went overboard on my bulk and I’m trying to get below 10% myself if I was recomping I’d make sure to stay under 13%.. Depending on the compounds you use and nutrition you shouldn’t have to worry about losing much size, I’d get bone shredded then do a nice lean bulk. But at the end of the day it’s personal preference, you might look worse bulking at that bf % but you’ll save cutting compounds you can use after your bulk when you’re bigger. All about how comfortable you are with your bf..

You’re definitely not a guru and you shouldn’t be giving advice.

Also, this is the underground. This is not the place to be posting this.

 

[Apexvallen]

You should be able to get under 13% comfortably without gear. If you run a test only cycle, it might make it a bit easier to hold onto the muscle while cutting fat, but not necessarily. its all diet and training tbh. Forget sarms, forget oral only cycles. Focus on diet and if you want the boost, do a 8-12 week test cycle. Try keto or paleo aswell. Absolutely zero sugar for you my friend.

 

[Steve84]

Stats:

6'1 185 lbs 16-17% BF. 25

Trying to bulk gain muscle but dont wanna gain too much body fat as im already possibly 16-17 BF %.

I know all the stuff people will say so just do me a favour and dont even bother about Oral Tbol Cycle or SARMs.

I was looking to run a 8 week cycle of Oral Tbol with PCT of Clomid and Nolva or run LGD and Rad140 together and run same PCT.
I was wondering which would give me the best possible gains in terms of my situation and also which will be easier to keep gain with as well.

Gonna say it again dont need flaming just need good advice so dont waste my time and yours I know the consequences and bad sides of both cycles.

You don't want flaming, but you are asking for it.

If you can't diet with proper nutrition to get your body down to a good level you shouldn't be juicing.
Hire a coach to diet you, lots of us on here can give you options/recommendations.

If you think you should be running something and you don't want to hear "Test" then you shouldn't be juicing.

All cycles should start with Test and be built around that. Plain and simple.

And Supression happens around every compound. That is why you do a PCT, Post Cycle Therapy. To make your balls work again and keep your gains.

 

[Burleyboyz]

You’re too out of shape for AAS, IMHO. Keep training natural and stick to a diet until you lose some bodyfat (around 10%) and put on some muscle. Then do a test E/C only cycle.

 

[Cg261990]

There's a reason people get flamed for oral only cycles man. Take everyone's experience and advice. You need some test in there bro.

 

[Fattest_animal]

I see two options here...

1) Cut down to below 12% before doing a cycle and then do said cycle.
2) Bulk during you cycle and cut below 12% afterwards.

You say you can't keep cutting down because you have a "skinny-fat" body, but that's only because of the apparence I assume. Correct me if I'm wrong, but who gives a fuck what you look like in the short term? You're supposed to do this in regards to the long term, not trying to get the fastest fix.

Another thing, don't do oral only cycles and disregard sarms for now. Only 6-8 weeks of Test will give you so many gains (as long as you don't have bunk gear). In 6 weeks I gained 15 pounds on my first cycle. Sure there was water retention as well, so it's probably more along the lines of 10 pounds of muscle, but the strength and gains were there. Easy to keep building from that point on.

Finally, get yourself a diet coach (and a training coach if you really need one). The moment I got my diet done from my coach, I saw changes happening really fast.

Anyways, good luck with what ever option you choose.

 

[Morefyah]

You’re too out of shape for AAS, IMHO. Keep training natural and stick to a diet until you lose some bodyfat (around 10%) and put on some muscle. Then do a test E/C only cycle.

Lmao, so you think everyone on here running gear is 10% body fat or lower.

 

[retpsd]

So you're looking for "good advice" on a bad idea.
Cool.
I won't flame ya bro, and I don't want to waste your time....so here's a nice pancake recipe.
Enjoy.

INGREDIENTS
2 cups all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons baking powder
¼ teaspoon salt
1 tablespoon sugar, optional
2 eggs
1 ½ to 2 cups milk
2 tablespoons melted and cooled butter (optional), plus unmelted butter for cooking, or use neutral oil


PREPARATION
Heat a griddle or large skillet over medium-low heat.
In a bowl, mix together dry ingredients. Beat eggs into 1 1/2 cups milk, then stir in 2 tablespoons melted cooled butter, if using it. Gently stir this mixture into dry ingredients, mixing only enough to moisten flour; don't worry about a few lumps.
If batter seems thick, add a little more milk.
Place a teaspoon or 2 of butter or oil on griddle or skillet.
When butter foam subsides or oil shimmers, ladle batter onto griddle or skillet, making pancakes of any size you like.
Adjust heat as necessary; usually, first batch will require higher heat than subsequent batches.
Flip pancakes after bubbles rise to surface and bottoms brown, after 2 to 4 minutes.
Cook until second side is lightly browned. Serve, or hold on an ovenproof plate in a 200-degree oven for up to 15 minutes.

 

[Whey2big]

Don’t do steroids. You’re tall and fat which means you’re lazy and want the easy way out.

You’re definitely not a guru and you shouldn’t be giving advice.

Also, this is the underground. This is not the place to be posting this.

Suck my ass

 

[Mimmik]

Suck my ass

I’m not into fat lazy dudes, but thanks anyways.

 

[Bigboy727]

Do test &250 1-16
Primo 600 1-16
Anavar 50mg a day 11-16
You’ll be in top physical condition with that

 

[Fattest_animal]

Why primo? Shouldn't he be lean AF for starters to use that compound? Waste of money otherwise...

 

[Bigboy727]

Why primo? Shouldn't he be lean AF for starters to use that compound? Waste of money otherwise...

You’re probably thinking masteron. And primo no matter how fat you’re primo will cut up with a great diet. Primo and Tren will make you very calorie efficient. Tren has many side effects though as we all know. Primo is almost what I would classify as a fat burner. Google it and see what you can find and report back. It’s actually very versatile and mild. Just take 10 minutes and type in Primobolan great at reducing bf? Also primo really shouldn’t raise bp no matter how fat. It doesn’t cause gyno or convert or E2.

 

[Steve84]

You’re probably thinking masteron. And primo no matter how fat you’re primo will cut up with a great diet. Primo and Tren will make you very calorie efficient. Tren has many side effects though as we all know. Primo is almost what I would classify as a fat burner. Google it and see what you can find and report back. It’s actually very versatile and mild. Just take 10 minutes and type in Primobolan great at reducing bf?

Primo is just expensive as fuck and lots of oil to inject a week for effective doses is most.
600-800mg/week is lots of oil.

As a starter with Virgin muscles it could be crippling to get all the oil in.

But I'm also a Tren lover that just ignores the side effects cuz I love running it.