Methadone maintenance

[Robby550]

So I've been off and on drugs most of my life. Usually get clean and use the gym to stay that way then eventually relapse and back and forth and so on. So now im on MM (methadone maint) and I have no libido no drive but my general quality of life is much better than active addiction. Some day i wanna be opiod free but it prob wont happen soon. So I'm back in the gym and getting back into the swing of things and am about to start my first cycle within the next mo or so. Im 5'9" 170lbs male. Decent diet needs more work thgh. Im trting to gain some knowledge from anyone else who has already taken these steps what to expect or any mishaps i can dodge. Idk really. Just general info. Ive been clean from everything except obviously methadone for 4mo so its still recent for me. Please no ignorant or childish comments I've heard it all. Anything else thgh would be appreciated. Thanks fellas

 

[Mr.B66]

I was in a similar situation bout 19 years ago. I was a heroin addict and went to methadone to get off the H. I did a trt cycle after a few months on methadone and back in the gym. Worked great for getting me back hungry in the gym and also helped big time with libido. Only ran 200mg testC PW.
Eventually i wanted to get off methadone as i was done being a slave to any opioid. Started decreasing my dose by 5mg every 2 weeks ( 2 weeks supply is what they gave me at each visit) and worked all the way down to 2mg PD relatively pain free ( no WD's)
Of course the difference between us is i was NEVER going back to the hell addiction offered and you "doubt" your gonna be done.
I wish you luck, but until YOU decide you no longer want to be a slave to these drugs, trt will be nothing but a temporary fix.

 

[bambam333]

If what your doing is working and keeping you on the right path keep doing it until you have some clean time and lifestyle under your belt and understand that you are an addict and let that really sink in that there is no going back to old habits or thats where youll end up staying and like mr b said then slowly start tapering the methadone over time slowly because that shit stays in you

 

[balco]

I was in a similar situation bout 19 years ago. I was a heroin addict and went to methadone to get off the H. I did a trt cycle after a few months on methadone and back in the gym. Worked great for getting me back hungry in the gym and also helped big time with libido. Only ran 200mg testC PW.
Eventually i wanted to get off methadone as i was done being a slave to any opioid. Started decreasing my dose by 5mg every 2 weeks ( 2 weeks supply is what they gave me at each visit) and worked all the way down to 2mg PD relatively pain free ( no WD's)
Of course the difference between us is i was NEVER going back to the hell addiction offered and you "doubt" your gonna be done.
I wish you luck, but until YOU decide you no longer want to be a slave to these drugs, trt will be nothing but a temporary fix.

That's fucking awesome, thank you for the inspiration!

 

[The Terminator]

Idk why anyone would give you a hard time for going on mmt, it’s a step in the right direction. I personally am not a fan of methadone, I chose the buprenorphine path myself, but whatever works for you. Once you come to the realization that you without a doubt don’t want to go back tapering becomes easy. I was on subs for years at 12-24mg a day and relapsing occasionally but once I got it in my head that I’m done I was able to quickly taper down.

 

[balco]

Idk why anyone would give you a hard time for going on mmt, it’s a step in the right direction. I personally am not a fan of methadone, I chose the buprenorphine path myself, but whatever works for you. Once you come to the realization that you without a doubt don’t want to go back tapering becomes easy. I was on subs for years at 12-24mg a day and relapsing occasionally but once I got it in my head that I’m done I was able to quickly taper down.

Are you still on subs? If so how much do you take daily? Have you been able to get off for long periods of time?

Maintenance drugs can be a savior and turn the user into a slave at the same time.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I was on methadone for years both through a doctor and a clinic. Suboxone for awhile, too. Also had to come off cold turkey several times in jail and rehab. After about a decade of opiate abuse, rehabs, jails, overdoses, outpatient, and maintenance programs I finally decided enough was enough. Normally as soon as I'd get out of the hospital/jail/rehab I'd be high within days, but the last time I knew I was done. It'll be seven years this spring since I've put any opiates in my body. In my opinion it's better to just come off and get it over with. Exercise helps. If you do methadone or suboxone just use it to taper only, don't ever become a slave to it long term. And that's that the clinics and doctors want so they can get paid, a lifetime customer. It's not sobriety though and it's no way to live.

 

[The Terminator]

Are you still on subs? If so how much do you take daily? Have you been able to get off for long periods of time?

Maintenance drugs can be a savior and turn the user into a slave at the same time.

Yea around 1ish mg/day. Definitely a life saver, been on them for a long time, some may say it was just replacing one opioid for another for most of the time I was on it, but honestly I wasn’t ready to quit before, so if I did taper I’d of been back on full agonists quickly, so might as well stay on the lesser evil till I was ready. Even during my sub maintenance I had several relapses. But now I’m ready to be done, had surgery over summer and I got a huge shot of fentanyl before, I really felt it before blacking out but I was like meh I no interest in pursuing that feeling.

My dr is pretty cool, encouraging me to taper only if I feel ready and at whatever pace I’m comfortable. Most of his time he works in a rehab facility, it’s more of a wanting to help type instead of $, he doesn’t work with insurance either. Not gonna lie I’ve been on some form of opioids most my adult life so it might be weird going off initially. But I have no interest in an opioid high, it might feel good if you get it but it’s temporary, and every good feeling usually comes with an equally worse feeling, and in the case of drugs an even worse longer lasting bad feeling.

 

[bigpoppachump]

So I've been off and on drugs most of my life. Usually get clean and use the gym to stay that way then eventually relapse and back and forth and so on. So now im on MM (methadone maint) and I have no libido no drive but my general quality of life is much better than active addiction. Some day i wanna be opiod free but it prob wont happen soon. So I'm back in the gym and getting back into the swing of things and am about to start my first cycle within the next mo or so. Im 5'9" 170lbs male. Decent diet needs more work thgh. Im trting to gain some knowledge from anyone else who has already taken these steps what to expect or any mishaps i can dodge. Idk really. Just general info. Ive been clean from everything except obviously methadone for 4mo so its still recent for me. Please no ignorant or childish comments I've heard it all. Anything else thgh would be appreciated. Thanks fellas

I was on 110mg a day for 7 years and my drive and motivation levels were off the charts. I worked from sun up to sun down and made more money than at any other point in my life and when I wasn't working I was up to balls in pussy, the only issue I had sexually was I had to work a lot harder to bust a nut but it was pretty much on par with nandrolone as far as that goes.

It's funny you say you don't have motivation or libido cause I've fantasized about just going back on MM purely for the motivation and drive factor.

 

[Havah]

[...]And that's that the clinics and doctors want so they can get paid, a lifetime customer.

What the fuck
Why would you think that?

 

[Perrin Aybara]

What the fuck
Why would you think that?

What do you mean? It's business for profit, why would they ever want you to come off? The money is in the treatment, not the cure. The places I've been there was never any talk of tapering or coming off. There were people that had been going for decades.

 

[Robby550]

I was in a similar situation bout 19 years ago. I was a heroin addict and went to methadone to get off the H. I did a trt cycle after a few months on methadone and back in the gym. Worked great for getting me back hungry in the gym and also helped big time with libido. Only ran 200mg testC PW.
Eventually i wanted to get off methadone as i was done being a slave to any opioid. Started decreasing my dose by 5mg every 2 weeks ( 2 weeks supply is what they gave me at each visit) and worked all the way down to 2mg PD relatively pain free ( no WD's)
Of course the difference between us is i was NEVER going back to the hell addiction offered and you "doubt" your gonna be done.
I wish you luck, but until YOU decide you no longer want to be a slave to these drugs, trt will be nothing but a temporary fix.

I have no clue what makes u think I "doubt" I'm done. Not sure where any part of your last paragraph comes from really so I'm not really sure what to say but

 

[Robby550]

I was on methadone for years both through a doctor and a clinic. Suboxone for awhile, too. Also had to come off cold turkey several times in jail and rehab. After about a decade of opiate abuse, rehabs, jails, overdoses, outpatient, and maintenance programs I finally decided enough was enough. Normally as soon as I'd get out of the hospital/jail/rehab I'd be high within days, but the last time I knew I was done. It'll be seven years this spring since I've put any opiates in my body. In my opinion it's better to just come off and get it over with. Exercise helps. If you do methadone or suboxone just use it to taper only, don't ever become a slave to it long term. And that's that the clinics and doctors want so they can get paid, a lifetime customer. It's not sobriety though and it's no way to live.

Yea I'm slowly coming down on my dose. I'm over being a slave to anything. Getting to old for all the bull shit that comes with H addiction. That's awesome you got that many years in bro that's my kind of inspiration. Yk how doctors can be. Mine is trying to tell me I need maintenance for the rest of my life due to how many yrs I was addicted. I told him he's full of shit. Lol. These last few yrs thgh my sex drive has plummeted and just my overall outlook on life. Working out has always made me feel better. Not only that but the more active I stay and the more positive shit I got going on I'm assuming all the easier to ween myself off the methadone. Thx bro appreciate your input

 

[Robby550]

If what your doing is working and keeping you on the right path keep doing it until you have some clean time and lifestyle under your belt and understand that you are an addict and let that really sink in that there is no going back to old habits or thats where youll end up staying and like mr b said then slowly start tapering the methadone over time slowly because that shit stays in you

Yea I'm already starting to come down on my dose. I'd like to be out from under this monkey before to much longer. Thx bro

 

[Robby550]

Idk why anyone would give you a hard time for going on mmt, it’s a step in the right direction. I personally am not a fan of methadone, I chose the buprenorphine path myself, but whatever works for you. Once you come to the realization that you without a doubt don’t want to go back tapering becomes easy. I was on subs for years at 12-24mg a day and relapsing occasionally but once I got it in my head that I’m done I was able to quickly taper down.

That's awesome bro I love seeing people doing well that have went thru this hell called opiates. I'm ready myself. Tired of this fukn roller coaster ride

 

[Robby550]

I was on 110mg a day for 7 years and my drive and motivation levels were off the charts. I worked from sun up to sun down and made more money than at any other point in my life and when I wasn't working I was up to balls in pussy, the only issue I had sexually was I had to work a lot harder to bust a nut but it was pretty much on par with nandrolone as far as that goes.

It's funny you say you don't have motivation or libido cause I've fantasized about just going back on MM purely for the motivation and drive factor.

I've never had any problems on opiates until MM. In all honesty I think my dose is part of the problem. I'm starring to go down but right now I'm just lethargic on this shit. Every time I go down 10mgs I start feeling a little better. We shall see!! Thx bro

 

[Mr.B66]

I have no clue what makes u think I "doubt" I'm done. Not sure where any part of your last paragraph comes from really so I'm not really sure what to say but

" some day i wanna be opiate free but it probably wont happen soon"
If thats not doubt i dont know what is. If you really want to be opiate free do it!! Cut your dose down 2 mg every 2 weeks. Nice and easy and pain free. I did it , no reason anybody cant.
Ive givin you all you need to be free of that shit, good luck!

Edit: i responded to your quote without reading your previous posts. So your cutting your dose and thats a big step to recovery. If i had one piece of advice, dont go down to fast, i had friends that did that and they all went back up and just gave up. I went small and slow and never had any issues till i was at around 2-3 mg and even then i was just uncomfortable, but never sick.
I truly do wish you the best, being free from that shit is
Like being reborn!

 

[Robby550]

" some day i wanna be opiate free but it probably wont happen soon"
If thats not doubt i dont know what is. If you really want to be opiate free do it!! Cut your dose down 2 mg every 2 weeks. Nice and easy and pain free. I did it , no reason anybody cant.
Ive givin you all you need to be free of that shit, good luck!

Edit: i responded to your quote without reading your previous posts. So your cutting your dose and thats a big step to recovery. If i had one piece of advice, dont go down to fast, i had friends that did that and they all went back up and just gave up. I went small and slow and never had any issues till i was at around 2-3 mg and even then i was just uncomfortable, but never sick.
I truly do wish you the best, being free from that shit is
Like being reborn!

I was talking about the methadone when i said it would prob be awhile before i wad opioid free. I just have seen otherr people on it a long time before they "dose" out. Hoping less than a yr for me. We shall see. Thx man

 

[bigpoppachump]

How often are you dropping down by 10mg? I would suggest no more than 5mg per month, it's gonna take a while but it's about as pain free as it gets on the withdrawal. When you get down below 15 thats qheb you deop it doqn to like 3mg per month.

 

[mr_meanor]

With the proper taper, like mentioned above, coming off methadone is painless, even after years of maintenance. It is the psychological/mental struggle the following months that is the real mf'er. I hear kratom helps, but it wasn't around 18 years ago when I went thru this struggle.