Social distancing, police state, and martial law?......

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Unfortunately, designating antifa as “terrorists” might have a bad consequence for the businesses. Insurance policies have a “terrorism” rider now. So unless you pay extra for that coverage I don’t know if these store burnings are going to be covered by insurance now that antifa is a “terrorist” designation.

 

[Jacques]

As an anarchist myself, from a philosophic point of view I can assure you the bullshit this government is making up about those of us that hold these views is nonsense.

A Anarchist has one request of government: "Can you justify your authority", "Your use of violence against citizens". It's a challenge for statism that is largely based on presuppositions.

Anarchy as a philosophy is voluntarism, it's a voluntary society. Anarchist don't go around threatening people at gun point, they don't exhort money from citizens, they don't put humans in cages to rot, or go out conducting wars to kill millions.

Anarchist got there start because of labor disputes, where captains of industry were using people for slave labor, with no rights, with no protection for life and limb, they were working humans to death and they didn't give a fuck, so there was some violence carried out, but that was understandable.

Here's the bottom line. Cops kill 1000+ US citizens every single year. Cops are given impunity(freedom from punishment) to shoot and kill anyone they want as long as they claim they "feared for their safety".

Police Shootings Database (Updated: 05/26/2020) – KilledByPolice

We live in the age of digital, that means we have cameras everywhere tracking every thing we do, including the cops. We now have thousands of videos as evidence of cops murdering our citizens and we also have the courts that let these cops off because it was "In Policy" to do so.

The so called "Greatest and Boomer" generations that have set up the police and prison state madness starting with Richard Nixon have allowed our constitutional rights to be trampled, with thousands of ways to get around respecting them. Those that don't obey like sheep are put on the digital plantation for life where they will be cut off and isolated, easy picking for LE.

The bottom line: The police and prison state needs endless legislation and endless laws to put as many people behind bars possible, to seize property and money to keep the machine going.

The riots are dumb and pointless and seem to be carried out by young people that are incapable of critical thought, they run on emotion without goal.

The immediate solution is to form an independent oversight investigation and prosecution team that can be scaled up to look into every police shooting. They would be investigated and prosecuted federally. The local police investigating themselves would come to an end, this would be carried out by a task force made up of those that are extremely critical towards police brutality.

Next we roll back all the laws that have yoked millions of our citizens with criminal records for non-violent offenses. We purge the online and offline record keeping system for anyone that has committed a crime that doesn't involve a victim.

If you carry out murder, rape, assault, robbery, theft, willful damage to property that doesn't belong to you, then you are a menace to society.

The simple rule to live by is to keep your hands to yourself and off my property. This goes for the cops as well. We all know that the most common interaction with cops is while using our vehicles. My vehicle is my property, you don't have a right to gain access to my vehicle unless I've committed murder, rape, assault, robbery or theft, otherwise the cops will have to kick sand and leave us alone.

As for Antifa, the Antifascists, the organization as a group lacks maturity, it appears that there are few older adults in their ranks, which suggests they don't have a goal in mind. I don't fear Antifa at all, I don't remember Antifa shooting and killing 1000+ citizens every year, don't remember them torturing people in prison, beating the shit out of people that are handcuffed. Sorry, but the police and military in this country have committed most of the crimes and this is true for just about any state that centralizes power in a top down fashion. Thus Anti-Fascism.

 

[Jacques]

One of the fatal mistakes of this most recent police murder is that this is a black vs white issue.

If we take a look at those killed by cop. Police Shootings Database (Updated: 05/26/2020) – KilledByPolice
We see the vast majority are white.

And while it is true that blacks are targeted by LE and anytime someone targets you they're going to arrest and prosecute you more often. We don't see cops in well off neighborhoods fucking with the locals, this wouldn't fly and the cops know it so they head over the areas with the lowest hanging fruit to get their performance points up and drum up some business to fill the courts and prisons.

However we are losing sight of the bigger issue. Why did cops start shooting our citizens, who let this get out of control. Why were cops trained to look at many of us as a threat, who militarized these cops?

The stats don't add up. Only 27 cops were shot and killed last year, making it one of safest professions considering there are a little less than 400,000 cops in this country. Most of the cops die due to traffic accidents or even suicide.

The most common form of interaction with cops are traffic stops, this is how they exhort money from the population, but this is also how they escalate a small issue into a situation where they can murder. We've seen cops pull guns over and over for anyone refusing to submit ID. One wrong move and the cop can blow your brains out and there's nothing that can be done about this. This is completely insane. Imagine any of us pulling a car over and sticking a gun in someones face because they reached for their DL and registration.

The moral of the story is for cops to stop fucking with us, leave us alone. You mind your business and I'll mind mine. Unless someone calls in a request for help for a cop, cops shouldn't be seen on the streets, they are a menace to us all(except the rich elites), they prey on all of us, but especially those that are poor and unable to pay for defense.

 

[flenser]

As an anarchist myself, from a philosophic point of view I can assure you the bullshit this government is making up about those of us that hold these views is nonsense.

A Anarchist has one request of government: "Can you justify your authority", "Your use of violence against citizens". It's a challenge for statism that is largely based on presuppositions.

Anarchy as a philosophy is voluntarism, it's a voluntary society. Anarchist don't go around threatening people at gun point, they don't exhort money from citizens, they don't put humans in cages to rot, or go out conducting wars to kill millions.

Anarchist got there start because of labor disputes, where captains of industry were using people for slave labor, with no rights, with no protection for life and limb, they were working humans to death and they didn't give a fuck, so there was some violence carried out, but that was understandable.

Here's the bottom line. Cops kill 1000+ US citizens every single year. Cops are given impunity(freedom from punishment) to shoot and kill anyone they want as long as they claim they "feared for their safety".

Police Shootings Database (Updated: 05/26/2020) – KilledByPolice

We live in the age of digital, that means we have cameras everywhere tracking every thing we do, including the cops. We now have thousands of videos as evidence of cops murdering our citizens and we also have the courts that let these cops off because it was "In Policy" to do so.

The so called "Greatest and Boomer" generations that have set up the police and prison state madness starting with Richard Nixon have allowed our constitutional rights to be trampled, with thousands of ways to get around respecting them. Those that don't obey like sheep are put on the digital plantation for life where they will be cut off and isolated, easy picking for LE.

The bottom line: The police and prison state needs endless legislation and endless laws to put as many people behind bars possible, to seize property and money to keep the machine going.

The riots are dumb and pointless and seem to be carried out by young people that are incapable of critical thought, they run on emotion without goal.

The immediate solution is to form an independent oversight investigation and prosecution team that can be scaled up to look into every police shooting. They would be investigated and prosecuted federally. The local police investigating themselves would come to an end, this would be carried out by a task force made up of those that are extremely critical towards police brutality.

Next we roll back all the laws that have yoked millions of our citizens with criminal records for non-violent offenses. We purge the online and offline record keeping system for anyone that has committed a crime that doesn't involve a victim.

If you carry out murder, rape, assault, robbery, theft, willful damage to property that doesn't belong to you, then you are a menace to society.

The simple rule to live by is to keep your hands to yourself and off my property. This goes for the cops as well. We all know that the most common interaction with cops is while using our vehicles. My vehicle is my property, you don't have a right to gain access to my vehicle unless I've committed murder, rape, assault, robbery or theft, otherwise the cops will have to kick sand and leave us alone.

As for Antifa, the Antifascists, the organization as a group lacks maturity, it appears that there are few older adults in their ranks, which suggests they don't have a goal in mind. I don't fear Antifa at all, I don't remember Antifa shooting and killing 1000+ citizens every year, don't remember them torturing people in prison, beating the shit out of people that are handcuffed. Sorry, but the police and military in this country have committed most of the crimes and this is true for just about any state that centralizes power in a top down fashion. Thus Anti-Fascism.

You gave yourself away on your first post. Anyway, your understanding of anarchism and all its different and conflicting forms is pretty poor. You should brush up on the main terms at least before going on about it.

 

[Whopperflopper]

Dude , your kinda out there, however not alone. Careful of your postings," they are watching." As long as the sheeple get there lil piece of the pie, they are ok giving up some rights. Most of the rights they are losing is because of the slow erosion of education. I help my Son with his homework and being 40 years older, I can see where the problem is starting.

 

[Jacques]

 

[Jacques]

You gave yourself away on your first post. Anyway, your understanding of anarchism and all its different and conflicting forms is pretty poor. You should brush up on the main terms at least before going on about it.

There's isn't one form of Anarchism. I'm quite aware of the history of Anarchism having a fairly large library of the most famous writings. I realize that much of Anarchism is linked to communism or communist ideas, especially the writings of those in the 1920's which forms a huge portion of Anarchist philosophy. However the horror show of the 1920's during the Russian Revolution showed the true face of Communism and many of those that championed it were appalled by what it led to under Lenin and Trotsky. Many famous Anarchist died before or shortly after Marxism was actually put into practice, so they really never had a chance to refute.

I would never live under any communist ideas, everyone is an individual, everyone has the right to live as they choose as long as they don't force their will on anyone else. I adhere to the idea of voluntarism. The historical context of anarchy is a moot point, the idea is simple with no need to add layers of complexity.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

You gave yourself away on your first post. Anyway, your understanding of anarchism and all its different and conflicting forms is pretty poor. You should brush up on the main terms at least before going on about it.

Gotta add yet another handle to the “blocked” list.

 

[Whopperflopper]

There's isn't one form of Anarchism. I'm quite away of the history of Anarchism having a fairly large library of the most famous writings. I realize that much of Anarchism is linked to communism or communist ideas, especially the writings of those in the 1920's which forms a huge portion of Anarchist philosophy. However the horror show of the 1920's during the Russian Revolution showed the true face of Communism and many of those that championed it were appalled by what it led to under Lenin and Trotsky. Many famous Anarchist died before or shortly after Marxism was actually put into practice, so they really never had a chance to refute.

I would never live under any communist ideas, everyone is an individual, everyone has the right to live as they choose as long as they don't force their will on anyone else. I adhere to the idea of voluntarism. The historical context of anarchy is a moot point, the idea is a simple with no need to add layers of complexity.

Trotsky and Lenin were nothing compared to Stalin. Each Communist leader with few exceptions always tries to one up their predecessors.
Societies rise and fall. As you know all it takes is the number of supporters you have, controlled by fear and hunger many will choose to follow rather than witness their family starve.or dissapeared. Atrocities of the past continue, and we can't all just go "off Grid" the US Constitution is now very different. We are still fighting for Rights that were Guaranteed.

 

[Jacques]

Gotta add yet another handle to the “blocked” list.

Why blocked. Do you agree with police brutality?

 

[Jacques]

Trotsky and Lenin were nothing compared to Stalin. Each Communist leader with few exceptions always tries to one up their predecessors.
Societies rise and fall. As you know all it takes is the number of supporters you have, controlled by fear and hunger many will choose to follow rather than witness their family starve.or dissapeared. Atrocities of the past continue, and we can't all just go "off Grid" the US Constitution is now very different. We are still fighting for Rights that were Guaranteed.

The Constitution allows interpretation and with it a means to get around the core ideas.

Ultimately what you have is a system of laws put in place by the ruling class, this is to keep the machine well oiled and running. We have been brainwashed to obey our masters, to do as they tell us and never question.

The experiment that is the US is coming to an end. The system doesn't work for huge numbers of people, a system that forces people into situations no sane rational person would choose to be forced into if they were given any choice. People are waking up to what their assumed role is and choosing to part ways. The older generation sent us down this path and the younger generations aren't going to carry the torch for this madness any longer.

 

[Oldschool]

The older generation sent us down this path and the younger generations aren't going to carry the torch for this madness any longer.

Your profile says your 99 so,,,,,,,,

 

[notdeadYET]

Why blocked. Do you agree with police brutality?

He's blocking you dumbass. Not the content. Now go fuck off and create a new handle. It will be spotted in 2 posts or less.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

He's blocking you dumbass. Not the content. Now go fuck off and create a new handle. It will be spotted in 2 posts or less.

Exactly. I need LESS Sworder in my life.

 

[Jacques]

BBBguy you don't really fear Antifa do you?

When I watched the Fox news reporter running from protesters the other day I had a good laugh, because normally these fox guys talk a tough game, but when they're caught out they start acting like crying whimpering bitches. The fox news guy immediately ran to the cops and stood there with tears in his eyes, it was like he'd never been in a real fist fight before. Why do we have so many tough talking conservatives that are so scared of a bunch of skinny jean wearing Antifa?

 

[Jacques]

My high school buddy back in the 90,'s that I knew since we were Scouts, who's father was a Vietnam vet before becoming a sheriff bought both his sons those pre 1985 Colt AR15 heavy barrels that came in an a aluminum box. He told them "one day, society is going to fall, study your history, I hope you never need them"

The younger generation doesn't want the system they've been handed. Why would you want to live under these laws and regulations that have straight jacketed life for millions of people.

When I see bumble fucks waving the flag and screaming "if you don't love it, leave it", I gotta wonder why these idiots think the current system is so great. You'd have to be completely bereft of imagination and all the possible improvements that could be made to think we are living in something that needs to be championed.

The idea of American excellence is mostly a fairytale that is repeated over and over despite the truth staring us all in the face.

George Carlin said it best......they call it the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.

 

[Eman]

I realize that much of Anarchism is linked to communism or communist ideas, especially the writings of those in the 1920's which forms a huge portion of Anarchist philosophy.

Are you saying that anarchism and communism are linked because they're similar idealogies or the opposite?

 

[Jacques]

Are you saying that anarchism and communism are linked because they're similar idealogies or the opposite?

No Anarchism has lots of branches, there is no one form of anarchism, which would be kind of against the idea of anarchism.

Anarchism I suppose has been around for thousands of years, I suspect many people have questioned the need for a ruler, for master and his slaves or subjects.

It doesn't need to be complicated, but there were lots of anarchist writers during the early 1900's and many of them were captivated by Marxist ideas, it wasn't until some of them were kicked out of the United States and went to Russia that they realized the true horrors of the Bolshevism when people were being rounded up and killed. Utopia was apart of the ideas of the 60's anarchist, but that doesn't work at all either.

I recognize that man can't be trusted, that there will be evil people among us that mean harm, those people can be dealt with in a manner that doesn't require a huge police state. Many people when they have a problem they immediately think of the cops, running and calling for help. Who taught us to do this? Watch any nature show with guys out in the wilderness, they reach for their gun when there's a problem.......that's how you solve your problem, you don't build this huge apparatus called the police state that will eventually take your guns and leave all of us at the whims of authority.

 

[Eman]

No Anarchism has lots of branches, there is no one form of anarchism, which would be kind of against the idea of anarchism.

Anarchism I suppose has been around for thousands of years, I suspect many people have questioned the need for a ruler, for master and his slaves or subjects.

It doesn't need to be complicated, but there were lots of anarchist writers during the early 1900's and many of them were captivated by Marxist ideas, it wasn't until some of them were kicked out of the United States and went to Russia that they realized the true horrors of the Bolshevism when people were being rounded up and killed. Utopia was apart of the ideas of the 60's anarchist, but that doesn't work at all either.

I recognize that man can't be trusted, that there will be evil people among us that mean harm, those people can be dealt with in a manner that doesn't require a huge police state. Many people when they have a problem they immediately think of the cops, running and calling for help. Who taught us to do this? Watch any nature show with guys out in the wilderness, they reach for their gun when there's a problem.......that's how you solve your problem, you don't build this huge apparatus called the police state that will eventually take your guns and leave all of us at the whims of authority.

Lol it was a simple question, dude... You wrote 4 paragraphs and I'm still not sure if you actually answered what I asked.

 

[Jacques]

Anarcho Syndicalism, Primitivism, Christian, Collectivist, Individualist, Communist, Green, Feminist, Capitalist, Tribal, Nationalists(or no go zones), Eco...ect.

There is no one form of Anarchism, so answering your question is impossible.

For me Anarchy is autonomy, it's not collective, it's not joining a group or forming a labor union, even though there are lots of anarchist that firmly believe in such things.

Modern Anarchy is vastly simple compared to the writings of those living in the past, so it's not even relevant to survey the historical. If someone doesn't want the government to meddle in their affairs, they want to be left alone to do as they please, that's close enough to anarchy for me. Don't need anything fancy. The problem is all these bozos that can't seem to image a world without the government insuring their store shelves are stocked full of goodies made in China, they want to get rid of the current authority, and replace it with their flavor of authority, to me that's fucked.