New cycle

[Steak man]

Got a new cycle opportunity now.
Previous cycle was test c only for 8 weeks.
Got some some great gains and now I have another cycle. Looking to put on size and reduce fat, and know my diet will be the biggest factor.
Test C and tren e or tren ace.
Not sure which tren, and I have read so much and both have pros and cons. looking for a recommendation on which tren.
I have Arimidex as well to use during and clomid for PCT.

Also have test p to cycle for 2 weeks at the end of the 8 week cycle.

5’10” 200lbs and 44 years old.
Have been doing physical training my whole life and cardio is something I can do very easily, putting on size is the hard part.
Thanks in advance.

 

[EazyE]

Got a new cycle opportunity now.
Previous cycle was test c only for 8 weeks.
Got some some great gains and now I have another cycle. Looking to put on size and reduce fat, and know my diet will be the biggest factor.
Test C and tren e or tren ace.
Not sure which tren, and I have read so much and both have pros and cons. looking for a recommendation on which tren.
I have Arimidex as well to use during and clomid for PCT.

Also have test p to cycle for 2 weeks at the end of the 8 week cycle.

5’10” 200lbs and 44 years old.
Have been doing physical training my whole life and cardio is something I can do very easily, putting on size is the hard part.
Thanks in advance.

If you don’t have much experience with cycles in general, and zero experience with Tren, you have to be prepared. Tren is a different animal. If you are determined to use it on your second cycle, then opt for Tren ace. It’s ester releases quickly compared to Enanthate. This is advantageous if it’s side effects are too much. It can exit your system faster than Enanthate ester type Tren. The downside with acetate is the increased frequency of injections required. Remember that Tren commands respect.

 

[Steak man]

If you don’t have much experience with cycles in general, and zero experience with Tren, you have to be prepared. Tren is a different animal. If you are determined to use it on your second cycle, then opt for Tren ace. It’s ester releases quickly compared to Enanthate. This is advantageous if it’s side effects are too much. It can exit your system faster than Enanthate ester type Tren. The downside with acetate is the increased frequency of injections required. Remember that Tren commands respect.

Definitely understand that about respect aspect and appreciate the advice. The side effects are about the same based on what I read and not overly concerned with night sweats.
If I do go with one or the other, I guess it will be personal preference, seems like the big difference is the amount of pinning required.
I have read so many articles and this forum on both, and looking to see if there are any clear differences and recommendations for dosage.

 

[EazyE]

Definitely understand that about respect aspect and appreciate the advice. The side effects are about the same based on what I read and not overly concerned with night sweats.
If I do go with one or the other, I guess it will be personal preference, seems like the big difference is the amount of pinning required.
I have read so many articles and this forum on both, and looking to see if there are any clear differences and recommendations for dosage.

I have used enough of both types over the years. Tren ace seems a little less prone to side effects for me. I have never experienced Tren cough when using acetate.

But I also like Tren Enanthate too. It’s nice to use in a cycle with less pinning required. Works well with test Enanthate and Masteron Enanthate in a cycle. At any rate, you will draw your own conclusions as to what you want to do. Good luck with your cycle.

 

[Gbro]

As mentioned above, tren ace for your first time. Some guys just can't take it and need to abort mission quick. Don't learn the hard way.

 

[WDE]

2nd cycle and already jumping on tren? Why not EQ, Deca, Primo, Anavar? These would all be good choices for a 2nd run.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Got a new cycle opportunity now.
Previous cycle was test c only for 8 weeks.
Got some some great gains and now I have another cycle. Looking to put on size and reduce fat, and know my diet will be the biggest factor.
Test C and tren e or tren ace.
Not sure which tren, and I have read so much and both have pros and cons. looking for a recommendation on which tren.
I have Arimidex as well to use during and clomid for PCT.

Also have test p to cycle for 2 weeks at the end of the 8 week cycle.

5’10” 200lbs and 44 years old.
Have been doing physical training my whole life and cardio is something I can do very easily, putting on size is the hard part.
Thanks in advance.

Run your first cycle again but for 12 weeks instead of 8. 8 weeks is far too short. You’ll see better results this time.

East eat eat eat. Guys want the “lean” look so they cut the Gainz off by not feeding the growth. You need protein to build and carbs/fats for the energy needed to build. It involves force-feeding for size. Simple as that. Don’t be afraid to add some fat on cycle. With the extra muscle mass that will melt away afterwards.

You don’t need Tren. Especially if your goal is size. It’s hard to grow on Tren if you don’t know how to eat already.

And at 44 yrs old get your natural test levels tested. You might want to TRT or blast and cruise anyway. Running a Tren E cycle will be harder to PCT after.

 

[Steak man]

2nd cycle and already jumping on tren? Why not EQ, Deca, Primo, Anavar? These would all be good choices for a 2nd run.

I have deca and EQ as well. Not sure about them as all I have read they are a lot of negatives with them.
With Test E or C what do recommend as dosage ?

 

[Steak man]

Run your first cycle again but for 12 weeks instead of 8. 8 weeks is far too short. You’ll see better results this time.

East eat eat eat. Guys want the “lean” look so they cut the Gainz off by not feeding the growth. You need protein to build and carbs/fats for the energy needed to build. It involves force-feeding for size. Simple as that. Don’t be afraid to add some fat on cycle. With the extra muscle mass that will melt away afterwards.

You don’t need Tren. Especially if your goal is size. It’s hard to grow on Tren if you don’t know how to eat already.

And at 44 yrs old get your natural test levels tested. You might want to TRT or blast and cruise anyway. Running a Tren E cycle will be harder to PCT after.

Had my test levels taken and I was still good.
As for diet what do recommend, especially for the fats?

 

[cochino]

I have deca and EQ as well. Not sure about them as all I have read they are a lot of negatives with them.

Do you think the negatives with tren will be less?

 

[EazyE]

I have deca and EQ as well. Not sure about them as all I have read they are a lot of negatives with them.
With Test E or C what do recommend as dosage ?

Deca is one of the safest compounds available. It’s a steady reliable mass gainer and when used alongside test, that’s as solid a cycle that you can find. If you can’t grow on test / deca cycle then you’re not eating enough as @BigBaldBeardGuy mentioned. It’s a simple and basic cycle to run. The standard 400-500mg / week test combined with 250-300mg / week of deca should prove quite formidable.

 

[cochino]

Had my test levels taken and I was still good.
As for diet what do recommend, especially for the fats?

Try and keep your saturated fats in check. You do need them, but avocados, fatty fish, nut butters etc should be your main sources.

 

[EazyE]

Do you think the negatives with tren will be less?

Good point.

 

[Steak man]

Deca is one of the safest compounds available. It’s a steady reliable mass gainer and when used alongside test, that’s as solid a cycle that you can find. If you can’t grow on test / deca cycle then you’re not eating enough as @BigBaldBeardGuy mentioned. It’s a simple and basic cycle to run. The standard 400-500mg / week test combined with 250-300mg / week of deca should prove quite formidable.

Thanks
I have a lot of stuff that I have had for awhile and never used none have expired.
Only have done test e or test c cycles.

The stuff I have and read a ton about, and so many articles that some just counter each other. I follow a lot on this forum as well. I do know my diet has to change as well. I am in pretty good shape as I have to for my job.

I inherited a lot of this from my brother in law that passed. I do NOT plan on taking all of this stuff just to be clear up front.

I appreciate the Deca feedback instead of tren, have read a lot about it as well.

This page does not recommend EQ in the profile page as a way to go.

Based on what I have I can stack many things and there are a hundred different stacks out there that I have read.
I have on hand:
Test E 250
Test C 250
Test P 100
Deca 250 and 300
Tren Ace 100
Tren E 200
DBol 100
EQ 200
Anadrol 50mg
Arimidex .5
Nolva 20
Letro 2.5
Clomid
Open to feedback, on the right way to go, I am grocery shopping today to get the stuff you have given me for diet, Looks like I will be eating a lot more.

 

[Steak man]

Run your first cycle again but for 12 weeks instead of 8. 8 weeks is far too short. You’ll see better results this time.

East eat eat eat. Guys want the “lean” look so they cut the Gainz off by not feeding the growth. You need protein to build and carbs/fats for the energy needed to build. It involves force-feeding for size. Simple as that. Don’t be afraid to add some fat on cycle. With the extra muscle mass that will melt away afterwards.

You don’t need Tren. Especially if your goal is size. It’s hard to grow on Tren if you don’t know how to eat already.

And at 44 yrs old get your natural test levels tested. You might want to TRT or blast and cruise anyway. Running a Tren E cycle will be harder to PCT after.

 

[Steak man]

Solid advice and thanks. Do you pound shakes or only drink a few and eat high protein foods? The good thing is that I have a lot of meat in the freezer, deer meat actually. Need to see how much protein is in that now.

 

[JC Grifter]

Solid advice and thanks. Do you pound shakes or only drink a few and eat high protein foods? The good thing is that I have a lot of meat in the freezer, deer meat actually. Need to see how much protein is in that now.

I try to avoid powder protein shakes unless by the end of the night I’m short on protein. Whole foods are so much better. Here’s a homemade shake I make:
1 banana
2 cups spinach
1 cup blueberry (use your favorite berries)
2 containers plain Greek yogurt
2 tablespoons natural peanut butter
6 tablespoons liquid egg white
4oz almond milk

 

[Steak man]

I will try this one

 

[Steak man]

I try to avoid powder protein shakes unless by the end of the night I’m short on protein. Whole foods are so much better. Here’s a homemade shake I make:
1 banana
2 cups spinach
1 cup blueberry (use your favorite berries)
2 containers plain Greek yogurt
2 tablespoons natural peanut butter
6 tablespoons liquid egg white
4oz almond milk

This is great!
How much protein do you think it has? I added up the information from my containers and got 22 grams

 

[JC Grifter]

This is great!
How much protein do you think it has? I added up the information from my containers and got 22 grams

A lot lol. If you get Fage Greek yogurt it’s 22 grams per container. So x 2 is 44 right there. Great value is 15 grams so 30 gram for 2 containers. 6 tablespoons of liquid egg whites is 10 grams. 2 tablespoons peanut butter is 8 grams. If you’re cutting swap out the peanut butter for PB Fit.