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Largest dose of tren you've gone up to?

BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Thanks a lot asshole.

I never said I was high body fat. I just said my goals aren’t the same as bodybuilders. What are your goals? It still doesn’t change the fact there are a number of different ways to run Tren. Do it your way who the fuck cares. 1.2 grams seems very reasonable. What’s your height/weight. Lemme guess 5’9” and 210 lbs.

Are you going to post your pictures up on 1.2 grams of Tren? Prove the comments here wrong?

Edit: Fuck it. You’re making friends with everyone here. Keep the bullshit up Bobby. Just argue with everyone. Go back to your other forum.
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BBG, I will always argue with guys that think they are intelligent because they regurgitate shit nine other bro's are saying.

I got a douche on here who thinks I need to worry more about LVH because of high tren dosages. That's like saying you are going to get AIDS because you have sex.

LVH is no more an issue with tren than it is with any other high dosages of test / aas combined with heavy lifting.

Also, people keep conveniently ignoring the statements about lots of cardio and super clean diet. You eat salmon, chicken breast, and tilapia with protein shakes and broccoli and green beans for 3 months and tell me how many cholesterol issues you have.
 
BobbySweeney said:
BBG, I will always argue with guys that think they are intelligent because they regurgitate shit nine other bro's are saying.

I got a douche on here who thinks I need to worry more about LVH because of high tren dosages. That's like saying you are going to get AIDS because you have sex.

LVH is no more an issue with tren than it is with any other high dosages of test / aas combined with heavy lifting.

Also, people keep conveniently ignoring the statements about lots of cardio and super clean diet. You eat salmon, chicken breast, and tilapia with protein shakes and broccoli and green beans for 3 months and tell me how many cholesterol issues you have.
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Are you sure you know what LVH stands for though???

Pssst... it’s not related to cholesterol.
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Are you sure you know what LVH stands for though???

Pssst... it’s not related to cholesterol.
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Yes...
Which is why I'm saying most aas, combined with heavy lifting, will lead to it. Singling our tren makes no sense.


academic.oup.com

Left ventricular hypertrophy in athletes

Abstract. Participation in regular intensive exercise is associated with a modest increase in left ventricular wall thickness (LVWT) and cavity size. The m
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If you don't want LVH to occur, don't lift heavy shit frequently on aas.

Start ice skating and taking green tea.
 
BobbySweeney said:
Yes...
Which is why I'm saying most aas, combined with heavy lifting, will lead to it. Singling our tren makes no sense.


academic.oup.com

Left ventricular hypertrophy in athletes

Abstract. Participation in regular intensive exercise is associated with a modest increase in left ventricular wall thickness (LVWT) and cavity size. The m
academic.oup.com academic.oup.com


If you don't want LVH to occur, don't lift heavy shit frequently on aas.

Start ice skating and taking green tea.
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Personally? I don't have bad LVH. But I take a shit ton of heart health sips, blood pressure drugs, AND do cardio regularly.

My friends who do cycles have it pretty bad, without big tren dosages, but some of that could be genetics.
 
BobbySweeney said:
Yes...
Which is why I'm saying most aas, combined with heavy lifting, will lead to it. Singling our tren makes no sense.


academic.oup.com

Left ventricular hypertrophy in athletes

Abstract. Participation in regular intensive exercise is associated with a modest increase in left ventricular wall thickness (LVWT) and cavity size. The m
academic.oup.com academic.oup.com


If you don't want LVH to occur, don't lift heavy shit frequently on aas.

Start ice skating and taking green tea.
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A cycle with 1.2 grams of testosterone is a pretty “heavy” cycle.

You’re talking about 1.2 grams of Tren which is much more anabolic and androgenic. It’s packing on muscle mass for every muscle, the heart being a muscle too. It’s not going to be selective to just beach muscles.

Bloodwork won’t always warn you of heart issues.

I believe that’s all that anyone is really WARNING you about.

And then there’s also the question of where do you go AFTER running a few heavy-hitter cycles like that? What’s the next cycle going to look like and the one after that?

A lot of us have done the same thing, falling for the “more is better”. But the majority of the guys that stay here doing this year after year will tell you they LEARNED from their mistakes. The bigger cycles aren’t always more effective. They’ll tell you the same thing I’m saying. You can do more with less AND have less consequences to your health.

1.2 grams of Tren is too much. If you need that much then you’re either at the high end of your genetic potential or something else is off.
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
A cycle with 1.2 grams of testosterone is a pretty “heavy” cycle.

You’re talking about 1.2 grams of Tren which is much more anabolic and androgenic. It’s packing on muscle mass for every muscle, the heart being a muscle too. It’s not going to be selective to just beach muscles.

Bloodwork won’t always warn you of heart issues.

I believe that’s all that anyone is really WARNING you about.

And then there’s also the question of where do you go AFTER running a few heavy-hitter cycles like that? What’s the next cycle going to look like and the one after that?

A lot of us have done the same thing, falling for the “more is better”. But the majority of the guys that stay here doing this year after year will tell you they LEARNED from their mistakes. The bigger cycles aren’t always more effective. They’ll tell you the same thing I’m saying. You can do more with less AND have less consequences to your health.

1.2 grams of Tren is too much. If you need that much then you’re either at the high end of your genetic potential or something else is off.
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I'm not trying to use 1.2 grams of tren.
But it gets people talking and sometimes people learn something. Unless the bro's get on a rant.

There was a forum about 3 years ago where I got flamed into the ground for using Trest. I was told how it would neuter me and was worthless. Now it's the new hot exotic drug people love.

I already said in a totally different thread to you that I needed to back off some drugs and focus on some other things (I can barely move my muscles are so hardened and tight after all these years of heavy training and clean diet, I'm going to start doing yoga).

This forum has a unique approach to sources; they flame the shit out of them and make them earn their drug money.

I'd like to see some more "out there" topics without bro knowledge being thrown around until it's a bunch of sheep. MindAndMuscle (abantlabs) 10 years ago had some crazy shit that led to break throughs in how we use/abuse PEDs. Where would you say you can go for discussions and ideas that push the envelope today?


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P.S... you got pretty mad when you thought I called you fat/even questioned your body fat. Remind me to bring that shit up randomly later just to trigger you. It's like that scene where Wolverine calls that big guy Blob.
 
BobbySweeney said:
I'm not trying to use 1.2 grams of tren.
But it gets people talking and sometimes people learn something. Unless the bro's get on a rant.

There was a forum about 3 years ago where I got flamed into the ground for using Trest. I was told how it would neuter me and was worthless. Now it's the new hot exotic drug people love.

I already said in a totally different thread to you that I needed to back off some drugs and focus on some other things (I can barely move my muscles are so hardened and tight after all these years of heavy training and clean diet, I'm going to start doing yoga).

This forum has a unique approach to sources; they flame the shit out of them and make them earn their drug money.

I'd like to see some more "out there" topics without bro knowledge being thrown around until it's a bunch of sheep. MindAndMuscle (abantlabs) 10 years ago had some crazy shit that led to break throughs in how we use/abuse PEDs. Where would you say you can go for discussions and ideas that push the envelope today?


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P.S... you got pretty mad when you thought I called you fat/even questioned your body fat. Remind me to bring that shit up randomly later just to trigger you. It's like that scene where Wolverine calls that big guy Blob.
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MESO has always been a “harm reduction” site and that’s why you won’t see too many extreme discussions - just goes against the values promoted.

It’s interesting conversation but almost mental masturbation. Hard to discuss stuff that no one would really run.

And I don’t get mad. People always say that. I just switch from sarcasm and melodic writing to a more aggressive style. I’ve been on MESO a while - anger is useless and anyone that gets angry arguing on an anonymous forum doesn’t stick around long. Imagine letting this shit work you up? You’d go insane.
 
Eman said:
Hmm, Well... I'm not going to admit the highest amount of tren I've taken, I don't want to get lectured.
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Nono we’re not lecturing him for taking it, we’re lecturing him for GOING to take, and ignoring the risks and arguing that because he eats cleaner, and jerks off more then the rest of us at 3x a week for an hour each that it’s no risk to him.. curious to know how crazy you’ve gone with it.
 
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Cashton said:
Nono we’re not lecturing him for taking it, we’re lecturing him for GOING to take, and ignoring the risks. Just don’t tell us you’re gonna do it again, curious to know how crazy you’ve gone with it.
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On 1.2 grams I’d go fucking insane.
On 350mg I wanna smack random people
 
Cashton said:
The only side effect I had was the total inability to sleep, like 3 hours total a night, it was brutal.
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I sleep like a baby. Just makes me lower my standards sexually and wanna punch people. I like it for strength and I’ve noticed I get the same strength increase from less than 200mg as I do with 500.
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Was it more than a gram each week?
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Yes... Well beyond a gram.

I started at a low dose of 400mg and began upping it every week or so. I was really just curious to find out for myself what the famous tren sides were like. Tren rage and such. It didn't really happen for me but it did make me blurt shit out without thinking when I got to the end.

I was actually generally unimpressed... More isn't better for results, IME. 700mg is as high as I'd go if I wanted to do a "bigger" cycle of it... I usually just do 400mg but I rarely take it. I am mixed on the look it gives... It's not a natural look whereas I can run primo and GH and really like the natural look it gives. Tren just kind of looks freaky but synthetic to me... The veiny capped shoulders will turn heads.

I am convinced it puts off pheromones though or something... Maybe it's just a confidence thing but my GF was ravenous for a while with no other changes.
 
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