what are your unpopular opinions?

[Worf]

Didn’t expect so much horseshit in one thread. So here’s my list of unpopular opinions that are relevant to bodybuilding/ powerlifting and maybe we can get this thing back on track

1. people in large groups are fuckin stupid( this thread proves it)

2. westside style conjugate is great for beginners in powerlifting.

3. powerlifters don’t need a bunch of accessories and gpp. Just enough to do a meet

4. IF is trash for athletes. People who are athlete should eat every 2-4 hours.

5. women are not “minorities” or
Some sort of special category of people

 

[NLM36]

Didn’t expect so much horseshit in one thread. So here’s my list of unpopular opinions that are relevant to bodybuilding/ powerlifting and maybe we can get this thing back on track

1. people in large groups are fuckin stupid( this thread proves it)

2. westside style conjugate is great for beginners in powerlifting.

3. powerlifters don’t need a bunch of accessories and gpp. Just enough to do a meet

4. IF is trash for athletes. People who are athlete should eat every 2-4 hours.

5. women are not “minorities” or
Some sort of special category of people

I think I love you. Lol

Never been a power lifter but I have done several programs in the past because strength is always my main goal. When I used to be a garbage man I got the idea from Wendler and for several months only did one big lift a day. I’d work up to a 1-3 rep max and then do 3x6,1xamrap. I had a bench, squat, ohp and deadlift day. I did pull-ups every workout. I got pretty big and pretty damn strong. I needed sessions to be short and recoverable. I’d take every 4th week completely off.

 

[Type-IIx]

Generational decline in testosterone levels observed

Nah it’s just shitty western lifestyle that’s mainly contributing

Does Fluoride Affect Serum Testosterone and Androgen Binding Protein with Age-Specificity? A Population-Based Cross-Sectional Study in Chinese Male Farmers

Many studies have demonstrated that exposure to excess fluoride was associated with a variety of diseases. Little is known about the variation of testosterone (T) levels caused by fluoride exposure. The aim of this study is to explore the association of fluoride exposure and age with serum T and androgen-binding protein (ABP) levels in male farmers. A cross-sectional study was conducted in a county of Henan Province, China, including high fluoride exposure from drinking water villages and control villages. Male farmers aged 18-55 years old who lived in these villages were recruited by cluster sampling and divided into a higher fluoride exposure group (HFG) and a lower fluoride exposure group (LFG) according to the level of urinary fluoride. Levels of T and ABP in serum were measured using chemiluminescence immunoassay (CLIA) and enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) respectively. Markedly lower T levels were observed in male farmers from the HFG than in those from the LFG (t = 2.496, P < 0.05). Furthermore, younger farmers, 18-29 and 30-39 years old, may be the most likely to have lower T levels when exposed to fluoride (P < 0.05). No significant differences were observed in serum ABP levels in all male farmers between the two groups with different fluoride exposure. These results supported that excess fluoride exposure decreased serum T levels of male farmers with age-specificity.

Does Fluoride Affect Serum Testosterone and Androgen Binding Protein with Age-Specificity? A Population-Based Cross-Sectional Study in Chinese Male Farmers - PubMed

Many studies have demonstrated that exposure to excess fluoride was associated with a variety of diseases. Little is known about the variation of testosterone (T) levels caused by fluoride exposure. The aim of this study is to explore the association of fluoride exposure and age with serum T and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It's a significant contributor in my opinion. There are other studies, I can link to if you care enough, that show a detailed look at similar populations in terms of diet, lifestyle, and indicate that testosterone levels really dropped significantly in relatively recent decades. I don't disagree that it's mainly [modern industrialized civilization] lifestyle that's the cause... but what does that encompass, because it's a very, very general statement.

 

[Cdave.aol]

Didn’t expect so much horseshit in one thread. So here’s my list of unpopular opinions that are relevant to bodybuilding/ powerlifting and maybe we can get this thing back on track

1. people in large groups are fuckin stupid( this thread proves it)

2. westside style conjugate is great for beginners in powerlifting.

3. powerlifters don’t need a bunch of accessories and gpp. Just enough to do a meet

4. IF is trash for athletes. People who are athlete should eat every 2-4 hours.

5. women are not “minorities” or
Some sort of special category of people

Finally a relevant post. This thread was becoming a snooze fest.

 

[rfan2020]

I think I love you. Lol

Never been a power lifter but I have done several programs in the past because strength is always my main goal. When I used to be a garbage man I got the idea from Wendler and for several months only did one big lift a day. I’d work up to a 1-3 rep max and then do 3x6,1xamrap. I had a bench, squat, ohp and deadlift day. I did pull-ups every workout. I got pretty big and pretty damn strong. I needed sessions to be short and recoverable. I’d take every 4th week completely off.

this is interesting,,I plan to try the "Russian fighter pull up program" google it to try something new.

6 days on, 1 off

and also do bodybuilding training low volume 3 times per week

any thoughts? pull-ups that many days, was recovery doable? it would be 5 sets of pull-ups per day

 

[Perrin Aybara]

this is interesting,,I plan to try the "Russian fighter pull up program" google it to try something new.

6 days on, 1 off

and also do bodybuilding training low volume 3 times per week

any thoughts? pull-ups that many days, was recovery doable? it would be 5 sets of pull-ups per day

Bodyweight stuff is definitely doable every day. I did a lot of calisthenics before I started lifting and have done some pretty extreme volume and frequency with them. 5 sets a day should be no issue to recover from.

Have also done lats 4x a week with weights, machines, and bodyweight on top of a powerlifting program with no issues.

 

[Whopperflopper]

1. You are correct
2. There are plenty of underpaid essential jobs. If everyone functioned on a plane of existence where they let income be the sole defining factor you would be in trouble. Not because nobody would want to do essential activities at the lower end of the income scale, but because you don’t seem all that bright, and a malcontent like you who says things like “disabled, too lazy or too dumb” don’t compete well for cushy six figure jobs with the masses. I know - I fill some of those spots from time to time and nobody I have promoted or hired has any of these things keeping them up at night.
3. Feminine men are nowhere near the plague that short men with inferiority complexes are. Like you. Found the gym to compensate for their 5’9” physiques with baby hands- started running hormones and now they are just angry all the time. Pretty sad.
4. You know that not everyone is a pretentious bodybuilder, right? There are powerlifters and even the ufc fighters you mentioned who aren’t concerned with a 34” waist who could tear your arms off- and I bet they know the difference between your and you’re as well.
5. Again with the waist? You mentioning 5’10” let’s me know where your problems lie, and it ain’t your waist. Dick size and height matter- height gets the pussy and dick size keeps it. It’s why you can’t hold on to women you do manage to get.
6. This I agree with- but it’s basically #1 again, just more specific.
7. The Amish inbreed at a rate almost impossible to keep track of, and when they aren’t raping their relatives they smell like a bag of assholes due to extremely questionable hygiene practices. Embrace technology my friend- a simple ssri inhibitor could get you past all of the shit cards you have been dealt in life and all perhaps you would stop being so judgemental of those around you. I bet you would even live longer - not that that is necessarily a plus in your case. Anger is a silent killer- let it go.

Missed you brutus.

 

[Whopperflopper]

I think BRM matters. Black Rifles.

 

[NLM36]

this is interesting,,I plan to try the "Russian fighter pull up program" google it to try something new.

6 days on, 1 off

and also do bodybuilding training low volume 3 times per week

any thoughts? pull-ups that many days, was recovery doable? it would be 5 sets of pull-ups per day

I only did them 4 days a week. 2on 1off 2 on 2 off. Could be doable. The main thing I’d keep an eye on is over use injuries and wear and tear. If I tried something like that I’d get tendonitis pretty quick. You’re a younger guy I believe so you might be okay.

 

[rfan2020]

late 30s. plan is something like this

pullup program (basically 5 days of 5 sets) then ill take 2 rest days (weekend()

so then I was going to do M,W,F some bb training

M,W,F..do this

2 sets bis
2 sets tris
2 sets traps
2 sets side delts
2 sets front delts
2 sets rear delts

12 sets, 3x per week so 36 total + the 25 sets of BW pullupts
my typical volume on a bro split is about 70 sets per week for whole body

(resting legs and chest to keep volume down, those are genetically strong parts).

So 6 sets of everything per week, low volume, the pull-ups serve as my back routine

I figure I can add more each week if I can tolerate it, maybe I should even start lower to see how much the pull-ups take out of me

200mg npp, 200mg test p, 3iu HGH

 

[rfan2020]

a bit worried about bicep overuse, but this is palms away. maybe cut the biceps down to 3 sets a week, or 1 set M,W,F to be safe

 

[Worf]

this is interesting,,I plan to try the "Russian fighter pull up program" google it to try something new.

6 days on, 1 off

and also do bodybuilding training low volume 3 times per week

any thoughts? pull-ups that many days, was recovery doable? it would be 5 sets of pull-ups per day

I think the squat is a superior exercise if you had to “pick just one”. Problem is people can’t recover from that much squat frequency. That’s why people don’t use the same exercise for any and all workouts. The pull up thing could be fun just to do for a month or something especially if you’re stuck w/o a gym due to work or lockdowns( apparently that’s gona be a reoccurring thing now,ffs)

 

[Silentlemon1011]

I think the squat is a superior exercise if you had to “pick just one”. Problem is people can’t recover from that much squat frequency. That’s why people don’t use the same exercise for any and all workouts. The pull up thing could be fun just to do for a month or something especially if you’re stuck w/o a gym due to work or lockdowns( apparently that’s gona be a reoccurring thing now,ffs)

One word
Smolov

 

[Brandaddy]

My most unpopular opinion is probably that I'm a rational and sane person.

That's why I come on sites like meso. Let's me know I'm not the only degenerate out there.

 

[rfan2020]

I think the squat is a superior exercise if you had to “pick just one”. Problem is people can’t recover from that much squat frequency. That’s why people don’t use the same exercise for any and all workouts. The pull up thing could be fun just to do for a month or something especially if you’re stuck w/o a gym due to work or lockdowns( apparently that’s gona be a reoccurring thing now,ffs)

true, but I have had a goal for a while to increase pull-ups and get a little functional work in vs bodybuilding type. always been stronger at pushing than pulling so want to try some functional stuff to maybe help with the BB movements

 

[NLM36]

Unpopular opinion: (to most)
High volume for bodybuilding is suboptimal and useless for most people. The same with rir/rpe. Volume is not and never has been the primary driver growth. Arnold’s encyclopedia of bodybuilding and the Renaissance periodization and stronger by science guys along with the whole “evidence” based cult are the worst things to happen to people trying to grow muscle. I see pros and competitors train damn near daily at my gym and they train beyond failure on damn near every working set and never stop before failure. The biggest guys are the strongest guys. Progressive over load is king. Reps in reserve is muscle left on the table.
Macros don’t matter besides Protein. Calories in calories out. You can eat snickers bars and drink protein shakes and get as lean or as big as someone who eats clean Whole Foods as long as calories and protein are equal.

 

[NLM36]

true, but I have had a goal for a while to increase pull-ups and get a little functional work in vs bodybuilding type. always been stronger at pushing than pulling so want to try some functional stuff to maybe help with the BB movements

So getting stronger isn’t functional? I’d say pushing, pulling and squatting heavy shit is pretty functional.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Pineapple on pizza should be fucking illegal.

The textures and flavors dont match up whatsoever.

If you eat pineapple on pizza, I assume you're a well hidden sociopath

 

[NLM36]

Pineapple on pizza should be fucking illegal.

The textures and flavors dont match up whatsoever.

If you eat pineapple on pizza, I assume you're a well hidden sociopath

Guilty

 

[rfan2020]

So getting stronger isn’t functional? I’d say pushing, pulling and squatting heavy shit is pretty functional.

lets all be honest,,we know im a stay lean don't want to look like a bodybuilder guy,,,I don't give a shit about legs. I work legs but not nearly with the intensity and volume as arms, delts that someone competing would. so for me a program based on lower body work would never happen.