Finished successful brew

[klokke23]

10g Tren A - 100 mg/ml, 20/2 MCT
10g Mast P - 100 mg/ml, 18/2 MCT
10g Test P - 100 mg/ml, 18/2 MCT
16g NPP - 150 mg/ml, 18/2 MCT
10g DHB - 66 mg/ml, 20/2 MCT

All went well. Tren almost fully dissolved at room temp, finished it in shallow water bath around 40°C.
I tried to dissolve the other brews by leaving them in the cupboard overnight. No luck. I put them in my frying pan at 50-60 °C and they dissolved quickly.

12v vacuum pump. And 1A DC supply.

 

[theotherguy]

Looks good! I like the simple set up with the vacuum pump. I still need to get on that.

Looks like there 2 different labels? one is handwritten, did you do the other label, or is that just how the vials came? I want a professional-ish label on mine. I'm not a UGL, but I do brew for myself and a couple buddies.

 

[klokke23]

Looks good! I like the simple set up with the vacuum pump. I still need to get on that.

Looks like there 2 different labels? one is handwritten, did you do the other label, or is that just how the vials came? I want a professional-ish label on mine. I'm not a UGL, but I do brew for myself and a couple buddies.

The vials come with the label. It's a bitch to get off, even with strong alcohols. So I just leave them on.

 

[All Nats McGee]

Nice man, you made the DHB at 66mg. I always preached to brew at 66mg because for me it made all the difference in the world. Gonna be super smooth stuff as far DHB goes. If you can report back on the PIP.

 

[klokke23]

Nice man, you made the DHB at 66mg. I always preached to brew at 66mg because for me it made all the difference in the world. Gonna be super smooth stuff as far DHB goes. If you can report back on the PIP.

There were just too many cases on here where it crashed at 100 and even 75. I saw and heard your preach, so I brewed at 66.
I won't use it for a good while yet though. But if I remember it, I'll report on PIP.

 

[Deleted member 127229]

I have never home brewed but I always wondered, How do you get the filtered oil into the vials without using a bottle top dispenser?

 

[Deleted member 127229]

The vials come with the label. It's a bitch to get off, even with strong alcohols. So I just leave them on.

Where they pre-sterilized vials?

 

[klokke23]

I have never home brewed but I always wondered, How do you get the filtered oil into the vials without using a bottle top dispenser?

Big syringe from media bottle to vials.

Where they pre-sterilized vials?

No.

 

[Rickt]

Ok that answered one question did you cap them. I have a hunderd precaps to fill then im looking to cap myself. Just to make it easier to fill.
Question 2 where did u get the filter and pump. Looks great. Was it one order or bit from here bit from there. Pm me a link if it was all one order and worked properly. Im using syringe filters. Would appreciate that. Also look for a post on difference between disolving steroids and melting them. There is a difference temperature is everything. Otherwise excelent work. I mean im envious my first brew was a mess. You look like a pro.

 

[fanoftren]

Big syringe from media bottle to vials.

No.

Does that mean for a short period of time the top of the filtererd bottle is open in the air? Then you pull up filtered oil in a new Syringe, then put it in the new sterile vial and then crimp the stopper on it ? Is it no big deal to be in the open air for a short time ?

 

[klokke23]

Does that mean for a short period of time the top of the filtererd bottle is open in the air? Then you pull up filtered oil in a new Syringe, then put it in the new sterile vial and then crimp the stopper on it ? Is it no big deal to be in the open air for a short time ?

Correct. Both the media bottle and vial will be exposed.
It is my opinion it's not a big deal, unless someone can change my mind. Because people are fine with injecting air into the vial for pressure. And they're also fine with backfilling a slin pin. And I really don't see the difference. But this is just my opinion.
I also doubt most homebrewers have a setup where the finished product is never exposed.

 

[fanoftren]

Correct. Both the media bottle and vial will be exposed.
It is my opinion it's not a big deal, unless someone can change my mind. Because people are fine with injecting air into the vial for pressure. And they're also fine with backfilling a slin pin. And I really don't see the difference. But this is just my opinion.
I also doubt most homebrewers have a setup where the finished product is never exposed.

Oke thanks man. Just wanted to be sure. Ill probably do the same then. Will do my first brew in a few weeks.

Btw, have another question. Those bottle top filters you use, are those from AliExpress? Ive been looking at those but not sure if it would be safe. But they look the same as yours. Is it PS material and a pvdf filter ?

 

[Alphalfa]

No.

How do you sterilize them(and the stoppers), or what to do you to try let them the most sterile until filling with the syringe and crimping?

Do you prefer those caps instead of the flip off ones? You need a different crimper tho.

I think like you regarding "air contamination" in past threads, that is why I am asking.

 

[klokke23]

Oke thanks man. Just wanted to be sure. Ill probably do the same then. Will do my first brew in a few weeks.

Btw, have another question. Those bottle top filters you use, are those from AliExpress? Ive been looking at those but not sure if it would be safe. But they look the same as yours. Is it PS material and a pvdf filter ?

AliBaba, yes. Any PVDF bottle top vendor will have the right products. Just make sure it's sterile. They might sell only the top dispenser, or they might sell ones with a plastic media bottle attached. Either way you will need a GL45 glass media bottle as the plastic ones will break under the vacuum force.
I don't know the plastic material. But with the good vendors on there, you should be fine. They will have equipment with the right material.

How do you sterilize them(and the stoppers), or what to do you to try let them the most sterile until filling with the syringe and crimping?

Do you prefer those caps instead of the flip off ones? You need a different crimper tho.

I think like you regarding "air contamination" in past threads, that is why I am asking.

I highly suggest you get pre-sterilized vials that are already crimped.
I do it this way because I don't want to order vials overseas and this is about the only option I have.

 

[Alphalfa]

I highly suggest you get pre-sterilized vials that are already crimped.
I do it this way because I don't want to order vials overseas and this is about the only option I have.

I know, appreciate the recommendation, that is my preference as well but in Europe it is almost impossible to find anything pre-steriziled, everything is "sterilizable" but they clearly states it is not steriziled at the moment of buying. You can get everything from EU vendors, every single kind of vials(10,20,50,100 ml), aluminium caps, flip-off caps, stoppers, other lab supplies, etc but non-sterilized ones.

So what did you do then if you said they were non pre-sterilized?

 

[Nezz]

I thought that type of clear filter housing is meant to leech plastic into your oils with mct and you needed pp type

 

[Alphalfa]

I thought that type of clear filter housing is meant to leech plastic into your oils with mct and you needed pp type

He said nothing regarding the housing but the filter. Maybe they have the polypropilene bottle top filters instead of the other one.

 

[klokke23]

I'm getting a lot of messages about my setup and exactly what I bought, etc. I got everything on my setup from this forum, so the info is already here. But here's a writeup.
But. I'm not an experienced brewer. This is only my 4th brew. I've done one with syringe filters and three with bottletop filters. So I suggest you get more information from searching the homebrew section instead of only listening to me.

Click search
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'Search threads' tab
Select 'Steroid Homebrew' in 'Search in forums' (on mobile, untick 'All forums')
Display results as threads
This makes searching around for the info you need extremely easy.

My setup:
12V vacuum pump. This specific item is sold all over the internet, not only on Amazon.
*Look for a large online electronics parts distributor in your country. Try searching '12v vacuum pump' on Google in your own language. You may find one locally right away.
*The red dot is the +
Buy inner diameter 1/4" tube or 6mm tube. (Some Amazon retailers sell the pump with compatible tube included).
12V 1A DC adapter. Amazon or get one from the same distributor you found the pump. This item should not be hard to find in your country online.
*Cut the plug off. Slightly seperate the two cables that's welded together in plastic.
*Strip both wires. Twist the strands of copper throughly until it looks like this.
*Thread through the holes of the two connectors and secure the copper wire around the spade connector. Red dot on the pump is positive pole.
*How to identify positive and negative: on all electroncs equipment cables, the positive (+) cable has some kind of markings on it, and the negative (-) has nothing on it. Example 1 Example 2

1. Screw bottletop filter on your sterile GL45 media bottle.
2. Hose on bottletop filter barb and on pump (arrows on the pump indicate which hole "blows" and which hole "vacuums".
3. Pump must rest on a towel and not directly on a hard surface. Otherwise it will dance around when you turn it on.
4. Fill oil in the top container. Lid on.
5. Plug the adapter in the outlet and the pump starts.
6. The pump is loud.

@Rickt

 

[klokke23]

I thought that type of clear filter housing is meant to leech plastic into your oils with mct and you needed pp type

Idk mate.

I know, appreciate the recommendation, that is my preference as well but in Europe it is almost impossible to find anything pre-steriziled, everything is "sterilizable" but they clearly states it is not steriziled at the moment of buying. You can get everything from EU vendors, every single kind of vials(10,20,50,100 ml), aluminium caps, flip-off caps, stoppers, other lab supplies, etc but non-sterilized ones.

So what did you do then if you said they were non pre-sterilized?

I buy 20ml vials with sterile water from the pharmacy. Uncrimp them, empty them and heat treat them in the oven. Then crimp them by hand after filling them with finished oil. It looks crude and homemade but it's secured tight and it's only for me anyways.
I wouldn't recommend this method. It's a hassle. I do this to avoid ordering vials from outside my country. I'm afraid I'll be put on some kind of list of persons of interest. There aren't any vendors left in the country that produce their own stuff within the borders anymore. The police probably like it that way.

 

[Nezz]

He said nothing regarding the housing but the filter. Maybe they have the polypropilene bottle top filters instead of the other one.

The “good” type is meant to be a cloudy plastic harder to see though and the “bad” type looks clear like one in photo.

Reason I ask is because I have 12 of the clear type that has been deemed shithouse for mct and not to use it