Bringing steroids back from Turkey?

[Millard]

Even if it is legal in the UK for personal use (I'm assuming this) then it is most likely still illegal to import it.

Weight the risk vs the reward. There is not a single good reason to do this.

It’s legal to import "on your person" a personal supply. It is illegal to import by mail. I don't know how "personal supply" is defined for this purpose.

 

[Millard]

The only official guidelines regarding what constitutes personal use amounts in the UK is “a 90 day supply”. This 90-days applies to all non-controlled meds, not just AAS.

Thanks. Do you know how this specifically applies to AAS?

A 90-day supply of testosterone for therapeutic TRT is much much different than a 90 day supply for most bodybuilders.

 

[Millard]

As for what’s available, it’s probably worth checking out the Turkish Pharmacy thread in The Underground subforum, but off the top of my head, you’re looking at pharma sust / primo / oxy, plus pharma ancillaries like T3, nolva, clomid, caber, hcg, maybe proviron.

I wonder if the letter of the law is specific about quantities or if it subject to the specific customs agent's judgment?

I would speculate at bare minimum it a maximum therapeutic supply for the drug in question would be acceptable. Perhaps this could apply to each different AAS e.g. Sust, Primo, Anadrol and each different ancillary drug?

 

[Zebedee]

Thanks. Do you know how this applies to AAS?

A 90-day supply of testosterone for therapeutic TRT is much much different than a 90 day supply for most bodybuilders.

I don’t know whether there is any further official guidance - certainly I’ve never seen nor heard of any.

I think it will pretty much come down to the opinion / knowledge / mood of the specific officer opening your suitcase tbh.

 

[Zebedee]

I wonder if the letter of the law is specific about quantities or if it subject to the specific customs agent's judgment?

I would speculate at bare minimum it a maximum therapeutic supply for the drug in question would be acceptable. Perhaps this could apply to each different AAS e.g. Sust, Primo, Anadrol and each different ancillary drug?

I’ve been told by customs that’s the case before, as that’s how it works with importing non-Scheduled meds.

However, I’ve also been told you can bring in upto a certain value in £, & back when it was legal to import through the post, I even had a senior official tell me 400 amps was ok - I shit ye not. A few weeks later, I a guy I knew had just 100 amps seized.

 

[Bigjab]

Correct. It is legal to import “personal use” amounts of AAS in your personal luggage or vehicle into the UK.

It’s not legal to import AAS into the UK through the post. If discovered, it’ll automatically be seized. Chances of it being discovered are quite low though.

The only official guidelines regarding what constitutes personal use amounts in the UK is “a 90 day supply”. This 90-days applies to all non-controlled meds, not just AAS.

When importing “on your person” (IE in your luggage / vehicle), you might have to pay VAT / duty on it, but that’s the only issue you’ll face.

Thank you for this mate finally a post with some actual knowledge! Unlike clowns like @shawnsinful hahaha
So a 90 day supply thank you very much! I wasn’t thinking of bringing back much anyway.
Maybe some sus and oxy that’s it.

 

[malfeasance]

Thank you for this mate finally a post with some actual knowledge! Unlike clowns like @shawnsinful hahaha
So a 90 day supply thank you very much! I wasn’t thinking of bringing back much anyway.
Maybe some sus and oxy that’s it.

A. Get some legal advice before you do it.
B. Please come back and let us know if you got away with it.

 

[Bigjab]

A. Get some legal advice before you do it.
B. Please come back and let us know if you got away with it.

Okay mate

 

[Alphalfa]

Correct. It is legal to import “personal use” amounts of AAS in your personal luggage or vehicle into the UK.

It’s not legal to import AAS into the UK through the post. If discovered, it’ll automatically be seized. Chances of it being discovered are quite low though.

The only official guidelines regarding what constitutes personal use amounts in the UK is “a 90 day supply”. This 90-days applies to all non-controlled meds, not just AAS.

When importing “on your person” (IE in your luggage / vehicle), you might have to pay VAT / duty on it, but that’s the only issue you’ll face.

I remember reading something like what you stated some years ago, but checking now the official UK GOV site it clearly states that it does not work like that anymore:

Take medicine in or out of the UK

When entering the UK, you need to prove your medicine is prescribed to you if it contains a controlled drug - find out what proof you need to get.

www.gov.uk

And even testosterone is on the list of controlled drugs:

List of most commonly encountered drugs currently controlled under the misuse of drugs legislation

www.gov.uk

So for Testosterone, schedule 4 Part2 drug you need a proof letter:

"If it contains a drug listed as schedule 4 (part 2)

To make sure your medicine does not get taken away from you at the border, carry a letter of proof that the medicine was prescribed to you."

The only thing I have been able to find regarding the 3months supply, etc is checking the Personal licences:

Travelling with medicine containing controlled drugs

Information on carrying medicine containing controlled drugs for individual travellers entering or leaving the UK.

www.gov.uk

"Personal licences

The personal import policy exists to enable prescribed controlled-drug containing medicines to be carried on your person when you visit the UK, without a licence being issued to you.

When you do not need a licence

You do not need a personal licence if you are travelling with:

• medicine listed in schedule 5 of the regulations
• medicine listed in schedule 4 (part II) of the regulations
• less than 3 months’ supply or travelling for less than 3 months with any schedule 2 to 4 (part I) drugs which have been lawfully prescribed to you in your country of habitual residence."

So Test ( 4 part2) does not need a personal licence, but still need to meet the requirement of proof letter.

 

[NBE]

Your forgetting the most important drug available in turkey

GH bruv

Can’t come back with out nords!

 

[Bigjab]

I remember reading something like what you stated some years ago, but checking now the official UK GOV site it clearly states that it does not work like that anymore:

Take medicine in or out of the UK

When entering the UK, you need to prove your medicine is prescribed to you if it contains a controlled drug - find out what proof you need to get.

www.gov.uk

And even testosterone is on the list of controlled drugs:

List of most commonly encountered drugs currently controlled under the misuse of drugs legislation

www.gov.uk

So for Testosterone, schedule 4 Part2 drug you need a proof letter:

"If it contains a drug listed as schedule 4 (part 2)

To make sure your medicine does not get taken away from you at the border, carry a letter of proof that the medicine was prescribed to you."

The only thing I have been able to find regarding the 3months supply, etc is checking the Personal licences:

Travelling with medicine containing controlled drugs

Information on carrying medicine containing controlled drugs for individual travellers entering or leaving the UK.

www.gov.uk

"Personal licences

The personal import policy exists to enable prescribed controlled-drug containing medicines to be carried on your person when you visit the UK, without a licence being issued to you.

When you do not need a licence

You do not need a personal licence if you are travelling with:

• medicine listed in schedule 5 of the regulations
• medicine listed in schedule 4 (part II) of the regulations
• less than 3 months’ supply or travelling for less than 3 months with any schedule 2 to 4 (part I) drugs which have been lawfully prescribed to you in your country of habitual residence."

So Test ( 4 part2) does not need a personal licence, but still need to meet the requirement of proof letter.

So what’s the legalities with oxys and growth mate?

 

[Bigjab]

I remember reading something like what you stated some years ago, but checking now the official UK GOV site it clearly states that it does not work like that anymore:

Take medicine in or out of the UK

When entering the UK, you need to prove your medicine is prescribed to you if it contains a controlled drug - find out what proof you need to get.

www.gov.uk

And even testosterone is on the list of controlled drugs:

List of most commonly encountered drugs currently controlled under the misuse of drugs legislation

www.gov.uk

So for Testosterone, schedule 4 Part2 drug you need a proof letter:

"If it contains a drug listed as schedule 4 (part 2)

To make sure your medicine does not get taken away from you at the border, carry a letter of proof that the medicine was prescribed to you."

The only thing I have been able to find regarding the 3months supply, etc is checking the Personal licences:

Travelling with medicine containing controlled drugs

Information on carrying medicine containing controlled drugs for individual travellers entering or leaving the UK.

www.gov.uk

"Personal licences

The personal import policy exists to enable prescribed controlled-drug containing medicines to be carried on your person when you visit the UK, without a licence being issued to you.

When you do not need a licence

You do not need a personal licence if you are travelling with:

• medicine listed in schedule 5 of the regulations
• medicine listed in schedule 4 (part II) of the regulations
• less than 3 months’ supply or travelling for less than 3 months with any schedule 2 to 4 (part I) drugs which have been lawfully prescribed to you in your country of habitual residence."

So Test ( 4 part2) does not need a personal licence, but still need to meet the requirement of proof letter.

So pretty much you can’t bring steroids back into the uk anymore legally?

 

[klokke23]

So pretty much you can’t bring steroids back into the uk anymore legally?

So what’s the legalities with oxys and growth mate?

You're a big boy now. You can find this info in the links provided I'm sure.

 

[Bigjab]

You're a big boy now. You can find this info in the links provided I'm sure.

A patronising comment from someone who told me to “put the oil into something else” ‍ Haha

 

[klokke23]

A patronising comment from someone who told me to “put the oil into something else” ‍ Haha

And what the fuck, pray tell, is wrong with that?

 

[Bigjab]

And what the fuck, pray tell, is wrong with that?

So it’s already not legal to bring them back in without a prescription so you think oh I’ll do something even more dodgy that would make you look 10x worse if caught and “put it in something else” yeh I think I’ll pass “big boy”

 

[klokke23]

So it’s already not legal to bring them back in without a prescription so you think oh I’ll do something even more dodgy that would make you look 10x worse if caught and “put it in something else” yeh I think I’ll pass “big boy”

You're the one asking for tips how to get it into UK on an aas forum instead of looking up your local laws, and act like some child when someone suggests something dodgy. Anyway, you have to be one hell of a dumbfuck to be caught smuggling oil in a sealed beard oil and olive oil bottle.

 

[Bigjab]

You're the one asking for tips how to get it into UK on an aas forum instead of looking up your local laws, and act like some child when someone suggests something dodgy. Anyway, you have to be one hell of a dumbfuck to be caught smuggling oil in a sealed beard oil and olive oil bottle.

I never once asked for “tips” I actually asked what was available there if you read back. It wasn’t until someone told me you can’t do it anymore that I asked if you can still do this “legally”. Then you decided to put a patronising comment. So if I can’t do it legally I’m defo not gunna be taking the oil out of the amps and transferring to a beard bottle Jesus Christ haha things aren’t that tight. I wasn’t gunna bring back any test anyway it would have been growth and oxys. I also never acted like a child because you suggested something dodgy after all we’re all using gear so we’re not squeaky clean. I just don’t appreciate being patronised by a complete sausage thanks

 

[Alphalfa]

So what’s the legalities with oxys and growth mate?

So pretty much you can’t bring steroids back into the uk anymore legally?

I cannot find rHGH on the list of controlled drugs, but Oxymetholone is classified same Schedule as Testosterone, Schedule 4 (Part 2).

Only think not completely clear and open to different interpretations is the following:

"If it contains a drug listed as schedule 4 (part 2)

To make sure your medicine does not get taken away from you at the border, carry a letter of proof that the medicine was prescribed to you."

"To make sure"... so it is probably that it is subject to the custom officer who reviews your case, in case you are inspected at some point, because most probably thing is you are going through without even being asked anything.

 

[klokke23]

I never once asked for “tips” I actually asked what was available there if you read back. It wasn’t until someone told me you can’t do it anymore that I asked if you can still do this “legally”. Then you decided to put a patronising comment. So if I can’t do it legally I’m defo not gunna be taking the oil out of the amps and transferring to a beard bottle Jesus Christ haha things aren’t that tight. I wasn’t gunna bring back any test anyway it would have been growth and oxys. I also never acted like a child because you suggested something dodgy after all we’re all using gear so we’re not squeaky clean. I just don’t appreciate being patronised by a complete sausage thanks

You're asking for help. It's the same thing. Who are you trying to convince by splitting hairs?
Damn you really do get your butt hurt easily. Two times in 2 pages of thread. Grow up