Snorting test/tren base

This is an interesting cultural phenomenon. PED users are happy to inject but think that snorting makes them look like a junkie. Recreational drug users are happy to snort but think that injecting makes them look like a junkie.

I think drugs are an tool and the ROI should be dependent on what you’re trying to achieve.

Ive noted the same thing. Maybe its due to my past history of rec drug use, although many members here have dabbled. Perhaps its because i have a non-emotional, strictly clinical-level way of viewing this. I dont hold a bias for any ROA, clinically all ROAs are taken into consideration with drug development.

Its ironic that PED injection is so normalized and almost anything outside of it is stigmatized, yet in rec drugs its the opposite and injecting is the most stigmatized.

The fact is, injecting anything is pretty much the most high risk route of administration. You are bypassing almost all the bodies defense mechanisms. The margin for error is the smallest. The negative consequences can be the highest.
 
I still remember 1-test nasal sprays o_O

The amount of inositol powder I used to sell to coke dealers when I worked at a GNC was nuts. Random note.

I never knew those existed. Did you ever try it out by any chance?

The 1-test sprays that is... not the cocaine.
 
Ive noted the same thing. Maybe its due to my past history of rec drug use, although many members here have dabbled. Perhaps its because i have a non-emotional, strictly clinical-level way of viewing this. I dont hold a bias for any ROA, clinically all ROAs are taken into consideration with drug development.

Its ironic that PED injection is so normalized and almost anything outside of it is stigmatized, yet in rec drugs its the opposite and injecting is the most stigmatized.

The fact is, injecting anything is pretty much the most high risk route of administration. You are bypassing almost all the bodies defense mechanisms. The margin for error is the smallest. The negative consequences can be the highest.
People have to take into consideration nasal passage integrity. Would this route cause damage? How necessary is it?

If it's in the mucous membranes, why not just gum it? It's such a small dose too. They make testosterone troches too
 
People have to take into consideration nasal passage integrity. Would this route cause damage? How necessary is it?

If it's in the mucous membranes, why not just gum it? It's such a small dose too. They make testosterone troches too

Valid points. The troches (lozenges), do you know if these are cyclodextrin based? I tried googling a bit but couldnt determine such, but did find a patent for cyclotest lozenges. I assume they are ,as my understanding is thats the only effective way to make testosterone base absorb transmucosally.

I DIYd something similar, making sticky gummy bear candies loaded with cyclodextrin encapsulated testosterone base. They stick against my gums and slowly dissolve away over X minutes, The only downside was the limitation on dosage i could absorb, putting multiple in my mouth at once failed to give me the feelz that i was getting any more of a dosage than just one at a time. Research i read on the matter using blood testing also seemed to confirm a dose absorption limitation for the sublingual/buccal/gingival route, bigger doses did not equate to higher blood concentrations after a certain point, suggesting a limitation on absorption via that route at least per X amount of time.

With my intranasal experiments i never ran into nasal issues except it would leave my nostrils feeling sticky like sugar residue from the cyclodextrin. No discomfort in the nose itself but the throat felt pretty rough from the drip for unknown reasons. My composition was nothing but distilled water, hydroxy-propyl beta-cyclodextrin, and testosterone base.

That said, i personally would not repeat the experiments. Mainly because I had satisfied my curiosity. The nasal testosterone was the most “novel” of the experiments, by which i mean it produced an effect different than other ROAs.

Delivery of testosterone to the brain by intranasal administration: comparison to intravenous testosterone​

William A Banks 1, John E Morley, Michael L Niehoff, Claudia Mattern
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Abstract​

Intranasal (i.n.) administration has emerged as a strategy to deliver therapeutics to the brain. Here, we compared i.n. and intravenous (i.v.) administration for testosterone. About 75% of the i.n. administered testosterone entered the blood. However, whole brain levels of testosterone were about twice as high after i.n. administration as after i.v. administration. About two-thirds of the testosterone entering the brain after i.n. administration did so by direct entry by nasal routes and the remainder indirectly by first entering the blood and then crossing the blood-brain barrier. All brain regions except the frontal cortex had higher levels of testosterone after i.n. administration than after i.v. administration, although the differences among brain regions varied much more for the i.n. route. The olfactory bulb, hypothalamus, striatum, and hippocampus had the highest levels after i.n. administration. The brain uptake pattern suggested a variety of distribution routes likely involving the cerebrospinal fluid, diffusion through brain tissue, and transport through nerve projections. Regional distribution patterns were similar after either i.n. or i.v. administration, suggesting that the dominant factor determining distribution/retention was the same for either route of administration. We conclude that the i.n. administration route delivers testosterone systemically and can target the brain, especially the olfactory bulb, hypothalamus, striatum, and hippocampus.
 
Why don’t people snort testosterone or trenbolone base (IE with no attached ester)?

Seems that injecting a suspension comes with PIP and infection risk, and dissolving it in oil requires unpleasant solvents that you don’t really want in your body.

So chop it up and rail a line?

I'm considering pulling the trigger with an order for PPL's tren base raw powder, to have my first tren experience.

I'd experiment with it sublingually.
No need to make a transdermal with it, as I wouldn't benefit from any skin enzyme conversion as I do with test.

Have you tried it in the end ?
 
I'm considering pulling the trigger with an order for PPL's tren base raw powder, to have my first tren experience.

I'd experiment with it sublingually.
No need to make a transdermal with it, as I wouldn't benefit from any skin enzyme conversion as I do with test.

Have you tried it in the end ?
Aren't you afraid of testicular atrophy? are you going to take hcg?

Edit : and trensomnia ?
 
Aren't you afraid of testicular atrophy? are you going to take hcg?

Edit : and trensomnia ?

Don't really care about atrophy.

Looks like most Tren sides are either due to the guaiacol or insane BA quantities used to dissolve it that lead to gasping syndrome.
Tren base users that take one dose in the morning report sleeping fine at night.

If I can get the mental and sex drives without the sleep or sweat issues I'm golden.
 
Don't really care about atrophy.

Looks like most Tren sides are either due to the guaiacol or insane BA quantities used to dissolve it that lead to gasping syndrome.
Tren base users that take one dose in the morning report sleeping fine at night.

If I can get the mental and sex drives without the sleep or sweat issues I'm golden.
So do you think you'll get same results as far as body comp with tren ace but without the sides ? Have y actually tried that?
 
Don't really care about atrophy.

Looks like most Tren sides are either due to the guaiacol or insane BA quantities used to dissolve it that lead to gasping syndrome.
Tren base users that take one dose in the morning report sleeping fine at night.

If I can get the mental and sex drives without the sleep or sweat issues I'm golden.
Why use tren instead of test? is it just because of the rapid testosterone dose/response stagnation or some other reason?

What dosage do you plan to apply? I'm thinking of trying something like 100mg in trandermal myself, which should give uptake of up to 50mg per day.
 
That's not exactly how it works dude, your natural production will stop with or without HCG.
I will obviously have a shutdown.
I'm just talking about taking HCG to prevent testicular atrophy and not end up with low pituitary hormone sensitivity.
But I'm just repeating what I said before, it seems quite simple to me.
 
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