Anavar and Test

[chilly99]

Folks,

What exactly would you expect from a side effect profile in combining these two, and how would you go about harm reduction (with test being <500mg / week).

For example, Anavar would be liver toxic, so some TUDCA would be beneficial. What about NAC, Psyllium Husk, Citrus Bergamot, etc?

 

[GuerillaPete]

Anavar and Test simple and effective .
You seem to know what you need as you mentioned them above .
Don't run the var more than 8 weeks twice a year and you'll be fine.
No need to run more than 30-50 mgs
Do bloods to see how it effects you and don't forget to check for blood in the urine as anavar can do that to some people.

 

[chilly99]

Yeah I've done some digging here and there, just curious if there was something I might be missing as a good basis. I also take Chemix King of Pumps PWO but wonder if something in it might be affecting the Anavar, because sometimes I'll notice it doesn't seem as effective.

Would you ever ramp Test Cyp above 500mg (currently just 250mg) with Anavar?

 

[WeaponPharma]

Consider using anavar only on the days you are pumping iron and putting it under your tongue 45 minutes before your workout. That’s how I use it. 3 days per week. I don’t believe you need to limit your use to 8 weeks. I haven’t…

 

[chilly99]

Yup, that's how it lasts so long LOL! 45 minutes huh? I heard from Victor Black that sublingual Anavar doesn't change its efficacy, although I don't know about that. I'll try it either way.

 

[WeaponPharma]

Yup, that's how it lasts so long LOL! 45 minutes huh? I heard from Victor Black that sublingual Anavar doesn't change its efficacy, although I don't know about that. I'll try it either way.

Certainly Derek from MPMD and VigorousSteve advocate sublingual use and I, too, will tell you anecdotally that the feeling is WAY different. In and out very quickly, sometimes I feel a crash afterward. Strength at the gym is absolutely higher

 

[GuerillaPete]

Certainly Derek from MPMD and VigorousSteve advocate sublingual use and I, too, will tell you anecdotally that the feeling is WAY different. In and out very quickly, sometimes I feel a crash afterward. Strength at the gym is absolutely higher

For sure the less time per week you use it the longer you can extend it.
But it does nuke good cholesterol thats the reason i don't like to extend it to long.
It can also mess with your stomach kidneys so hit it and quit it is my philosophy.
You can take it sublingual but absorption is debatable as athletes used it with alcohol to have better absorbtion but does not really matter as long as you swallow it.
Coffee can also boost its effects .

 

[WeaponPharma]

For sure the less time per week you use it the longer you can extend it.
But it does nuke good cholesterol thats the reason i don't like to extend it to long.
It can also mess with your stomach kidneys so hit it and quit it is my philosophy.
You can take it sublingual but absorption is debatable as athletes used it with alcohol to have better absorbtion but does not really matter as long as you swallow it.
Coffee can also boost its effects .

I seem to recall VigorousSteve indicating that grapefruit juice assists with bioavailability too. Not quite sure why

 

[TheRingloVale]

I seem to recall VigorousSteve indicating that grapefruit juice assists with bioavailability too. Not quite sure why

Grapefruit juice inhhibits the CYP3A4 enzyme, which is responsible for breaking down many drugs. With less of this enzyme, more of the drug stays active in your system. Also note that this decrease in enzyme can make some prodrugs not convert into their active metabolites and therefore can actually reduce drug efficacy (not in anavar's case though )

 

[chilly99]

Grapefruit juice inhhibits the CYP3A4 enzyme, which is responsible for breaking down many drugs. With less of this enzyme, more of the drug stays active in your system. Also note that this decrease in enzyme can make some prodrugs not convert into their active metabolites and therefore can actually reduce drug efficacy (not in anavar's case though )

Woah that's actually very interesting. Might be worth looking into.

 

[chilly99]

For sure the less time per week you use it the longer you can extend it.
But it does nuke good cholesterol thats the reason i don't like to extend it to long.
It can also mess with your stomach kidneys so hit it and quit it is my philosophy.
You can take it sublingual but absorption is debatable as athletes used it with alcohol to have better absorbtion but does not really matter as long as you swallow it.
Coffee can also boost its effects .

Yeah I also realized I can't do sublingual because it is a capsule not a tablet... oops.

 

[Studious69]

Certain AAS metabolites are “beneficial” and some not so much depending on perspective. The explanation of CYP3A4 inhibition given above is correct, I see alot of pharmaceutical commercials now with the fast talking at the end warning not to take grapefruit juice with the product lol. I think oral or sublingual Var are both going to be highly worth it in my opinion. Dosing frequency will determine length of time you could or should use it, though I tend to agree with some of the above hit it & quit it approaches with anavar. Probably my favorite oral compound. Tudca, NAC, citrus berg, glutathione etc. would all be beneficial as well. Good Luck!

 

[Alistair7]

Test plus anavar is one of the best cycles you can run for great results and low sides. In fact it’s all I use anymore. I’m too old for the harsh stuff and primo makes me feel very tired for some reason.

 

[All Nats McGee]

I can look better and about the same strength with 250mg test and 25mg var for 12 weeks then 500mg test. Feelz wise I feel better on 500mg test.

 

[Studious69]

Test plus anavar is one of the best cycles you can run for great results and low sides. In fact it’s all I use anymore. I’m too old for the harsh stuff and primo makes me feel very tired for some reason.

Never heard of primo making somebody feel tired like that, but I always take people’s personal experience to heart when talking about whatever compound. Maybe it’s the AI effect dht's can possess? Idk, in my eyes it’s a nearly perfect compound I’ve always been super interested in it and it’s purported effects on the immune system and all that jazz. Why do you think it has that effect on you, personally? Do other DHT derivatives make you feel as such, or most of them, rather? Other than making ya lethargic did you have a mostly positive experience with it as well?

 

[saxtonhale1]

This was my first cycle loved it. My only concerns were bad cramping and blood pressure at 300 mg Test E, and Anavar. I don't drink normally so my ALT and AST levels weren't really a concern.

 

[lovetherich]

One of my cycles were 500mg test E for 20w with some Anavar 50mg ED (divided half in the morning and half in the evening pre workout) the first and last 5w of the cycle. Tbh my final blood work didn't look all that different compared to my test only bloods at mid cycle. To be fair the rest of my diet and sleep was on point and I kept it strictly no drinking nor any paracetamol or such. But for at least a shorter period on a reasonable dose Anavar did not seem to affect my bloods in any significant negative way.

 

[Prospext]

Test plus anavar is one of the best cycles you can run for great results and low sides. In fact it’s all I use anymore. I’m too old for the harsh stuff and primo makes me feel very tired for some reason.

I’m in a situation where I have enough test c and anavar for a 8-12 week cycle. I’ve never experienced with anavar. Just DBol which I love what it does for me.
Could you explain how you run a test/anavar cycle and what I could expect from it (test dose, anavar dose, etc).

 

[one5onecc]

Consider using anavar only on the days you are pumping iron and putting it under your tongue 45 minutes before your workout. That’s how I use it. 3 days per week. I don’t believe you need to limit your use to 8 weeks. I haven’t…

does this actually work as well as every day if the doses are the same?
50mg 4 times per week on workout days vs 30mg everyday for example.

How does one go about sublingually dosing anavar? I have solid pressed tablets from kingdomofvar, do you just crush into a powder and put underneath your tongue?

 

[SippinCoffee]

does this actually work as well as every day if the doses are the same?
50mg 4 times per week on workout days vs 30mg everyday for example.

How does one go about sublingually dosing anavar? I have solid pressed tablets from kingdomofvar, do you just crush into a powder and put underneath your tongue?

The Bioavailability between the 2 options is going to be pretty damn slim. Things that are taken sublingually are usually developed to be done that way. I don't think you would see much of a difference if any.

As for the part about using it as a preworkout rather than a regularly/consistent compound....I have no idea about that. I would think that keeping levels in your body as even as possible is better than the roller coaster of taking them less often like that, but I ran across this article as I am trying to find more info about that exact subject.