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While I concur it really isn't germane to the aging discussion.
If someone is suicidal, they have to fix that first before anything else is fixable.
What makes everyone think im suicidal? Im not im really afraid of death.
People wanted more information about me so here it is
im a warehouse worker in a small country. I assemble packages for clients. I used to have friends ive known for 20 years but they all started doing drugs and i didnt like that and because of that they abandoned me plus some other minor reasons im not sure. So because i have no friends anymore its hard to even try to find girls because there is nobody to go out with to clubs/bars. Dating apps dont work for me because i have 0 pictures of myself.
All i do is go to work go gym and then spend my time online tiktok/videogames/forums/streams/youtube etc.
Now i know most people will say u can go outside alone /clubbing etc and meet new people.Well its true but i kinda feel like you have to be really interesting or attractive person for that which im neither
People wanted more information about me so here it is
im a warehouse worker in a small country. I assemble packages for clients. I used to have friends ive known for 20 years but they all started doing drugs and i didnt like that and because of that they abandoned me plus some other minor reasons im not sure. So because i have no friends anymore its hard to even try to find girls because there is nobody to go out with to clubs/bars. Dating apps dont work for me because i have 0 pictures of myself.
All i do is go to work go gym and then spend my time online tiktok/videogames/forums/streams/youtube etc.
Now i know most people will say u can go outside alone /clubbing etc and meet new people.Well its true but i kinda feel like you have to be really interesting or attractive person for that which im neither
Make pictures of yourself and try the dating apps. Start there.
You won't succeed if you never try. In life, it is often a numbers game, meaning volume. You aren't even trying because you have already defeated yourself before you attempted to try. You have to try. One step at a time. Momentum builds and then you are onto the next level. Sometimes you have to fail, and fail many times, in order to succeed.
Most women don't even want this perfect man you think you have to be, because they are insecure and don't want other women to take their man. Women are way less into looks than men are. Women aren't the same as men and they don't think the same as men. Women don't even know what they like, and what they claim they like, changes regularly and depends on their current emotional state. Stop worrying about what women potentially like. It is the wrong approach.
Trainedbytylerlofthouse19
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Ladies love the bald look especially these days bro I'm thinking about getting rid of mine haha
EDIT you'll find she comes along when your not looking anyway. I was at one of my lowest in life and a simple smile from a girl in the shop changed everything I'm now 6 years deep with 2 kids haha
Sure but i find it would be depressing for me to go into serious relationship for years without sleeping around with bunch of women first
Before bunch try first sleeping with one. From what you say even that doesn't work very well
Basically you feeling "depressed " because you don't get pussy. That's not depression and that is coming from someone with real depression.
I don't even know what to say anymore....
Because there are people like you this illness called depression is taken like being a joke. Oh I don't get pussy I'm depressed or my t-shirt is too small for me I'm depressed.
This is a serious illness but it's not taken seriously cause this term "I'm depressed " is coming from people with no real issues.
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I never said im depressed i have depressive symptoms and depressive toughts but i dont think im depressed otherwise zoloft would do more on me i guess?
I most likely have very low self esteem anxiety low confidence and depressive toughts.I still have drive to do things but due to my low self esteem and anxiety im lonely its hard to go outside if u start to sweat excessively in public places unless im drunk i will sweat like a pig. Been trying to fix that sweating problem for years and i have no clue how to fix it i cant just put perspirant on my forehead lol
You need to get used to sweating. Some people just sweat a lot. However, excessive sweating in my opinion, can be caused by having too high estrogen. Your estrogen is likely too high. Try an aromatase inhibitor.
roofer22
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I would definitely seek therapy.
Thanks i will get a blood test for estrogen is there any other test u can recommend for sweating ? bloodwork is kinda cheap where i live so i dont mind taking them
Even if you have real depression Zoloft can be useless. There are many meds for this illness and the doctor that person visit with try and error will find one hopefully.
But there are persons who don't respond to any treatment.
But what you have done if I understood correctly you pick a med random for a illness you aren't diagnosed by a doctor. If this sentence doesn't sound wrong to you think again.
It's like I pick a random antibiotic for a infection and that should work because antibiotics are prescribed for that. Well yes and no.
There are specific antibiotics prescribed for specific infection.
Not all antibiotics have the same spectrum.
I have gonorrhea and I take amoxicillin and because it's a antibiotic it will treat that illness. It will not and if gonorrhea have developed a resistance to antibiotics it will be "fun" to try more powerful antibiotics that will kill that bacteria.
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I think that the best thing that you could do without ruining your health and quality-of-life, would be to find ways to add structure to your daily life. Whether that's as simple as being very consistent with the times you go to bed and wake up, or if it's something like reading philosophical books an allotted time everyday and logging the way you feel about them (idfk just made something up). The general premise is that the less time/opportunities you give yourself to brood, the better you'll ultimately feel. Though there will always be those Sunday nights where you feel the weight of all the bad stuff, I think it's important to learn to live with these kinda feelings. Especially body-image issues, as I feel that anybody who goes down the self-improvement/body building path inevitably experiences a version of that same problem. As for women, I think that striving to become a better version of yourself in all aspects will more likely than not both slowly help improve your ability to seek out women (i.e. confidence), as well as increase the likelihood of women just gravitating towards you. I can't say that I understand the way you feel, despite having had some similar feelings to you, since I am much younger, but the ideas that I've put forth are pretty much universal, so I hope I've at least provided some form of perspective or support.
IronMetal_2
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Dude, i had depression for so long and it took some time for me to move on. Depression -> Lack of meaningful Activity -> more depressed. You need to break this cycle.
Having a great Therapist and adjusting my lifestyle by building new habits and getting rid of bad habits over time fixed my depression and anxiety It's not easy if you are completely in a rut. It takes time and patience. No Short cut. No medication will fix you, they merely help somewhat but their effects are mostly overblown.
Anxiety -> Do things that make you anxious in a controlled manner, over time anxiety will be less and you'll build confidence
Depression -> Just do Things instead of wasting your time with social media, tik Tok etc.
If you like dogs, consider getting one. My dog has been very helpful on my journey, helped me overcome so many social anxiety issues and just made me do more stuff.
Having a great Therapist and adjusting my lifestyle by building new habits and getting rid of bad habits over time fixed my depression and anxiety It's not easy if you are completely in a rut. It takes time and patience. No Short cut. No medication will fix you, they merely help somewhat but their effects are mostly overblown.
Anxiety -> Do things that make you anxious in a controlled manner, over time anxiety will be less and you'll build confidence
Depression -> Just do Things instead of wasting your time with social media, tik Tok etc.
If you like dogs, consider getting one. My dog has been very helpful on my journey, helped me overcome so many social anxiety issues and just made me do more stuff.
Hayes88
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Very strong of you to share and ask for help, and I believe you have gotten excellent help/ advice here already. Remember that this is an online forum as well, so you gotta select the good advice/ questions to answer and ignore those that doesn't rime with your reasoning in a sense. Everyone wants to give their best many times, but that doesn't mean it's right for you.
I just want to add that you gotta stay away from social media. That will be hard/ painful even, especially since that is what you mentioned you do a lot (online). Even YTB can be extremely detrimental mentally for some, and forgive me if I am wrong, but I get the sense that you compare yourself to others in a very unhealthy way - which has a domino effect.
Social media shows you everything you lack, and simultaneously put extreme pressure on you what you need to do to get it. It also fcks up the reward system and life becomes more monotone (we all fall in this trap to a degree).
I live around rather famous people (not one myself) in various niches from fitness, to media, to xxx, and most of them are far from the video/ picture. The consensus is usually "if you look good and have people believe you look good, you have it easy or easier", I would beg to differ. In my experience the demands are way higher for handsome men (not women imo). I had this talk with a promoted IFBB friend of mine who has a greek god figure and tons of "friends" by the looks of it and he was extremely depressed some time ago.
He had/ has constant demands what he had/ has to do to stay in the field he wanted to be in, non helped him out. Women demanded more, work demanded more, society demanded more. Since he is who he is (and look how he looks), everyone expect more. He wasn't even allowed to be hospitalized from an internal bleeding as the "fans don't wait". Now this is an extreme case, but it has relevance for most - you want more, you gotta do more and no one will care if you fall (besides loved ones). He suffers from a condition most would swallow vomit from, so sweat or loosing hair is a small price in life.
He came out of depression when he stopped social media besides what he himself uploaded, only caring for what he himself wanted to do/ show. He talked openly about his anxiety/ depression, and learned to understand what is real and what is fake. Still the same pressure since he is in a crazy field, but happier for sure.
If you want a comfortable life, you gotta start with lowering your wishes/ demands what life is about and be happy for what is. If you do however want more, then you gotta step into a zone that is uncomfortable, scary, will slap you hard across the face several times, but with hard work and consistency - yield rewards.
Meaning no excuses, no "if I only had" or "but he has".. nada...
Most don't need a helping hand, most need a slap. I am not saying that is your situation, but involve yourself with groups/ classes/ people who motivate you in a tougher way - maybe try judo/ boxing?
I just want to add that you gotta stay away from social media. That will be hard/ painful even, especially since that is what you mentioned you do a lot (online). Even YTB can be extremely detrimental mentally for some, and forgive me if I am wrong, but I get the sense that you compare yourself to others in a very unhealthy way - which has a domino effect.
Social media shows you everything you lack, and simultaneously put extreme pressure on you what you need to do to get it. It also fcks up the reward system and life becomes more monotone (we all fall in this trap to a degree).
I live around rather famous people (not one myself) in various niches from fitness, to media, to xxx, and most of them are far from the video/ picture. The consensus is usually "if you look good and have people believe you look good, you have it easy or easier", I would beg to differ. In my experience the demands are way higher for handsome men (not women imo). I had this talk with a promoted IFBB friend of mine who has a greek god figure and tons of "friends" by the looks of it and he was extremely depressed some time ago.
He had/ has constant demands what he had/ has to do to stay in the field he wanted to be in, non helped him out. Women demanded more, work demanded more, society demanded more. Since he is who he is (and look how he looks), everyone expect more. He wasn't even allowed to be hospitalized from an internal bleeding as the "fans don't wait". Now this is an extreme case, but it has relevance for most - you want more, you gotta do more and no one will care if you fall (besides loved ones). He suffers from a condition most would swallow vomit from, so sweat or loosing hair is a small price in life.
He came out of depression when he stopped social media besides what he himself uploaded, only caring for what he himself wanted to do/ show. He talked openly about his anxiety/ depression, and learned to understand what is real and what is fake. Still the same pressure since he is in a crazy field, but happier for sure.
If you want a comfortable life, you gotta start with lowering your wishes/ demands what life is about and be happy for what is. If you do however want more, then you gotta step into a zone that is uncomfortable, scary, will slap you hard across the face several times, but with hard work and consistency - yield rewards.
Meaning no excuses, no "if I only had" or "but he has".. nada...
Most don't need a helping hand, most need a slap. I am not saying that is your situation, but involve yourself with groups/ classes/ people who motivate you in a tougher way - maybe try judo/ boxing?
rokkrul3r
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I'm going to chime in because I've been suicidal, had absolute shit periods, had relationships that were a nightmare, etc, etc
The first thing you need to get as a man is a source of income that makes you proud of yourself. Every little improvement helps, if you're at a warehouse earning X, getting hired at another warehouse as manager earning 1.5X is a big step up, so keep climbing.
Live life in your own terms. If you're afraid of being bald, shave your head and face the fear. Bald and jacked, fuck it, grow a beard, you'll look badass.
Do the steroid dosages people are afraid of doing, just be informed and safe about it. Extreme results need extreme measures.
Apply this to your diet. Cut the carbs completely, go full meat. It'll increase aggression, change your insulin response, make your body feel more tight and ready to fight. You're a man, a hunter, eat a hunter's diet.
Have a vision for yourself. Imagine the perfection that you want, for anything, your body, finances, work, etc, and work towards them. You may not get everything, but if you keep as a target, you'll progress. Other things, you'll get even more than you expected.
As you go through all of this, as someone that went and goes through heavy mental shit myself, there'll be periods of hell. Just go through it. Take it as a big workout, but for the heart and mind.
Doesn't matter how dark it gets, if you don't despair, you will overcome and come out at a top you never even imagined.
The only person that you cannot let stop believing in you, is your own self.
The first thing you need to get as a man is a source of income that makes you proud of yourself. Every little improvement helps, if you're at a warehouse earning X, getting hired at another warehouse as manager earning 1.5X is a big step up, so keep climbing.
Live life in your own terms. If you're afraid of being bald, shave your head and face the fear. Bald and jacked, fuck it, grow a beard, you'll look badass.
Do the steroid dosages people are afraid of doing, just be informed and safe about it. Extreme results need extreme measures.
Apply this to your diet. Cut the carbs completely, go full meat. It'll increase aggression, change your insulin response, make your body feel more tight and ready to fight. You're a man, a hunter, eat a hunter's diet.
Have a vision for yourself. Imagine the perfection that you want, for anything, your body, finances, work, etc, and work towards them. You may not get everything, but if you keep as a target, you'll progress. Other things, you'll get even more than you expected.
As you go through all of this, as someone that went and goes through heavy mental shit myself, there'll be periods of hell. Just go through it. Take it as a big workout, but for the heart and mind.
Doesn't matter how dark it gets, if you don't despair, you will overcome and come out at a top you never even imagined.
The only person that you cannot let stop believing in you, is your own self.
1. I don't know were you live but the salary for doing the same type of job are aprox the same everywhere. You will not get a 50% increase just because you change the company.
A warehouse worker let's say earn 1k no one will pay him 1,5k and he is doing the same thing. It might be a 5% difference but usually the work conditions are worse(work in cold,work with heavy stuff)
2. I don't recommend doing the steroids dose people are afraid. In this is all about progressing in time and a lot of time is needed. At first take 0,5 mg/kg then 0,75 mg/kg and so on as you need more aas. Don't blast 10g just because Jimmy is afraid of taking 10g.
3. That with imagine perfection for yourself and what things you want it will lead to more depression.
rokkrul3r
Member
ok debbie downer, look at the negatives, nitpick and do the safe things
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