What's your current old man cycle?

Agree, RHR matters. Although, I think a lower BP is likely a far more important consideration.
Side note: A professor once explained that the heart does not "wear out" like a mechanical pump. In an unfailing support system, theoretically, the heart may actually beat forever. Neither here nor there though.
For sure BP is far more important when it comes to health. It can kill you or/and wear out the kidneys.
 
Test, primo, and gh are my favorite. I've been thinking about sprinkling in a little npp next go round. Truth is I ran deca in my 20's but can't remember how I reacted.
Yes I just added in a little Deca as well. For joints? Who knows but probably more for the anabolic add on. Used NPP in the past but really saw no differences in the two. Currently running about 1g Test, 750 Primo and 250 Deca. I debate cutting this down in the summer but actually dropping a little weight Currently so happy. Also running 8-9 GH gonna start into my pharma stash 100% for a summer cut to start Feb/March ish
 
i can't handle tren a, even a low dose , It makes me to Anngry, and i suffer really bad road rage,lol
It's wild how we all respond in such different ways to compounds. I'm one of those guys that gets very little in the way of sides (deca dick being the most noteworthy) and I've never needed to worry about Gyno or needed an AI even when I've ramped testosterone up to 1200mgs - 1500mgs per week. I just don't aromatize much. With tren ace libido skyrockets to almost annoying levels and I lose a little sleep but not enough to have a major impact, plus the gains are worth sleeping a little less easy than normal for a short period of time. When it comes to the short fuse and rage -road rage in your case- I'm pretty laid back so I think it's easier to keep in check but I can totally see how dudes with a shorter fuse can be pushed over the edge on tren.
 
No problem with prostate enlargement?
I mean here reading all your comments I only hear about blood tests, but do any of you worry at your age about the condition of your prostate?
This is a good point. I just posted about how I feel very little in the way of sides but I have begun to show signs of an enlarged prostate. I should have said surface level, day to day sides. Fortunately I'm going to the urologist next month and will be getting a battery of tests done after which I'm going to reevaluate my cycles.
 
I check on it. PSA is good and had a digital check when I turned 50. So far so good. I need to do some research to see if any prostrate supplements are actually effective. My grandpa had prostrate cancer so I watch.
I think I'm going to do the same. If I come across any that are effective and have studies I'd be happy to share what I've found. I can DM or post on this thread. I've personally neglected prostate health and I'm at an age -46- where it's time to get serious about it.

Ha- and btw, as fellow roof contractors we gotta help each other out whenever possible.
 
@narta this might be a dumb question as the answer seems pretty obvious but do you find that rotating the Sdrol & Adrol biweekly like that keeps the toxicity of each compound down? I ask because I currently have both and will soon be trying Sdrol for the first time. Adrol is probably my favorite compound and I can run 50 - 100mgs of it for about 4 weeks before it starts to take a toll. If I can keep the toxicity down by rotating it with a fairly similar compound, extending it's use another 4 weeks or so I'd be a very happy man.
 
@narta this might be a dumb question as the answer seems pretty obvious but do you find that rotating the Sdrol & Adrol biweekly like that keeps the toxicity of each compound down? I ask because I currently have both and will soon be trying Sdrol for the first time. Adrol is probably my favorite compound and I can run 50 - 100mgs of it for about 4 weeks before it starts to take a toll. If I can keep the toxicity down by rotating it with a fairly similar compound, extending it's use another 4 weeks or so I'd be a very happy man.
Adrol and Sdrol are in the opposite side of the spectrum Adrol get you puffy and full of water, Sdrol gets you dry and loaded with glycogen. Adrol is not that toxic, Sdrol is death. The rotation is simply a way to avoid appetite suppression.
 
Thank @narta. I appreciate it man.

I more meant similar in "feelz" as a pwo compound. I'm glad I came across this b/c I wouldn't have thought of it otherwise -the Meso difference! I think I'll probably keep it at a one week rotation to start. Just to assess how well I handle the toxicity of Sdrol.
 
Nobody else in my family struggles with high blood pressure, which does not mean it is not genetic, but nobody else in my family was a competing bodybuilder, either, and I tend to think there is a connection between my bodybuilding and the blood pressure issue - especially since it went up in tandem with my bodyweight. It was dangerously high when I was 251, still lighter than you, and it had been sneaking higher with each pound gained. When I finally made the call to stop and reverse course, it went down as I lost weight.

I am just struggling with the decision of "Do I really need to drop below 225 pounds?" LOL. :D

I'm six foot and 57, BTW - strangers still make comments from time to time about my build, even when I am in dress clothes, and especially when out and about in a T-Shirt, but nothing like when I was around 250. In my own head, I am weak and small and fat, though, and now having to consider maybe getting smaller and weaker . . . which is probably the right call. My BMI is still technically "obese" - if I lose 5 pounds I can get into "Overweight".

But I would need to lose another 42 pounds to hit the top of "normal" BMI . . . ugh.

183 pounds

137 to 183 pounds is the normal range for a 6 foot tall man.
I hate tha damn bmi. Im 6'4" and it wants me around 180lbs. I was 179 in college and looked like a scarecrow! I was pretty much nothing but bone a gristle. Id like to hit 225-230lbs...sitting at 243lbs right now.
 
I check on it. PSA is good and had a digital check when I turned 50. So far so good. I need to do some research to see if any prostrate supplements are actually effective. My grandpa had prostrate cancer so I watch.
Finasteride is prescribed to help shrink the prostrate with BPH (according to a nephro doc) It takes a few months to take effect though. As a nice side itll help keep/grow hair.
 
Finasteride is prescribed to help shrink the prostrate with BPH (according to a nephro doc) It takes a few months to take effect though. As a nice side itll help keep/grow hair.
It also crushes your DHT and your boners won't like that very much. I'm 46 and lucky to still have a full head of hair but I'd be willing to sacrifice it for my ability to sustain a hard on at will. There are other routes one can take to resolve a lot of the issues fina fixes. Some alternative routes probably just aren't as effective. Then again some can be just as effective. I suppose it's all individual, like everything else in this game.

Speaking from my own experience anyway, finasteride definitely wasn't for me. I took a low dose to get ahead of any hair loss after I noticed some thinning and slight shedding. Whether it was placebo or not, it didn't take long for my hard-ons to diminish so I stopped around 3 weeks in. I had also added oral stanozolol (25 - 50mgs ed) onto my cycle about a month leading up to the shedding and realized this likely played the biggest role. Once I dropped the winny the shedding stopped.

The old me would have kept going on the winny and pushed through with the fina. Thankfully those days are over and now I'm okay with sometimes subtracting instead of always adding. I think with age we build a more conservative approach to these things... Ha- for the most part anyway. Definitely not all the time.

Apologies for the long post.
 
It also crushes your DHT and your boners won't like that very much. I'm 46 and lucky to still have a full head of hair but I'd be willing to sacrifice it for my ability to sustain a hard on at will. There are other routes one can take to resolve a lot of the issues fina fixes. Some alternative routes probably just aren't as effective. Then again some can be just as effective. I suppose it's all individual, like everything else in this game.

Speaking from my own experience anyway, finasteride definitely wasn't for me. I took a low dose to get ahead of any hair loss after I noticed some thinning and slight shedding. Whether it was placebo or not, it didn't take long for my hard-ons to diminish so I stopped around 3 weeks in. I had also added oral stanozolol (25 - 50mgs ed) onto my cycle about a month leading up to the shedding and realized this likely played the biggest role. Once I dropped the winny the shedding stopped.

The old me would have kept going on the winny and pushed through with the fina. Thankfully those days are over and now I'm okay with sometimes subtracting instead of always adding. I think with age we build a more conservative approach to these things... Ha- for the most part anyway. Definitely not all the time.

Apologies for the long post.
I understand, was just tossing it out there. If the prostate starts causing issues, a hard on might be a secondary consideration (spoken like a true old man I guess). Hopefully it doesnt get to that point for any of us.
 
I hate tha damn bmi. Im 6'4" and it wants me around 180lbs. I was 179 in college and looked like a scarecrow! I was pretty much nothing but bone a gristle. Id like to hit 225-230lbs...sitting at 243lbs right now.
This has always been my issue. I'd look really weird at 6'4 180ish. 225-240 has always been the range for me. BMI needs to go.
 

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