Primo as AI and when to get labs

[SWFL-239]

Threw primo into the stack a couple months ago started at 200mg been at 40omg for the past two weeks. Do I need to run 400mg for 5 weeks before getting labs to allow full saturation. Mainly looking to check E levels not sure if the AI effect requires saturation to get a true value. Elbows shoulder and neck are starting to ache.

Current stack
500/400/400/6iu Test/Deca/Primo/gh.
Going to be bumping the GH up to 8-10iu in a day or two.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Threw primo into the stack a couple months ago started at 200mg been at 40omg for the past two weeks. Do I need to run 400mg for 5 weeks before getting labs to allow full saturation. Mainly looking to check E levels not sure if the AI effect requires saturation to get a true value. Elbows shoulder and neck are starting to ache.

Current stack
500/400/400/6iu Test/Deca/Primo/gh.
Going to be bumping the GH up to 8-10iu in a day or two.

Personally I’d do it now. Primo crashed my E2. Those aching joints turned into mild injuries before I finally did something to resolve my low E2. Then my cycle was derailed.

 

[Exhortae]

Primo crashed my e2 after 10 days

 

[mikeh1998]

Primo crashed my e2 after 10 days

Same experience on 200 mg Primo Enanthate + 500 mg Test E, after about 3 injections I felt bones hurty and stopped.

 

[17SS]

Threw primo into the stack a couple months ago started at 200mg been at 40omg for the past two weeks. Do I need to run 400mg for 5 weeks before getting labs to allow full saturation. Mainly looking to check E levels not sure if the AI effect requires saturation to get a true value. Elbows shoulder and neck are starting to ache.

Current stack
500/400/400/6iu Test/Deca/Primo/gh.
Going to be bumping the GH up to 8-10iu in a day or two.

I would do labs just to find which ratio works best for you for using it as an AI. For me it’s 5-1 test/primo and my E2 stays at high normal.

 

[Tbaz192]

Yeah so I’m on 200 mg test and 30mg primo.
Even that 30mg was enough to lower my E2.

Was running 400 test and 200 primo that crashed my e2 to almost single digit.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Yeah so I’m on 200 mg test and 30mg primo.
Even that 30mg was enough to lower my E2.

Was running 400 test and 200 primo that crashed my e2 to almost single digit.

It’s actually pretty impressive how much Primo lowers E2. Well, until your E2 hits single digits. Then you are no longer impressed. Lol

Back when I only ran high test, was fatter, and aromatized more I wish I would have known about Primo. It’s a fat lifters dream drug. Haha

 

[Grey Spartan]

I get blood work in 6 days (the 4 week mark) to find out how much my E2 has been lowered from 127 on 200 Test-C and 400 Primo. My skin is still a little oily but my knees are starting to ache. lol I do aromatize a shit ton. I got to the 127 mark in 4 weeks (from 30) with 150 Test-C and 300iu HCG EOD.

If my E2 is in the toilet, I will bump the Test-C to 300 drop the Primo to 200 and add 200 Mast-E and recheck in 4 weeks. The joys of trying new compounds and seeing how your body reacts.

 

[glpfun]

I get blood work in 6 days (the 4 week mark) to find out how much my E2 has been lowered from 127 on 200 Test-C and 400 Primo. My skin is still a little oily but my knees are starting to ache. lol I do aromatize a shit ton. I got to the 127 mark in 4 weeks (from 30) with 150 Test-C and 300iu HCG EOD.

If my E2 is in the toilet, I will bump the Test-C to 300 drop the Primo to 200 and add 200 Mast-E and recheck in 4 weeks. The joys of trying new compounds and seeing how your body reacts.

Come to club peanuts and you can probably run 200 test without e2 issues

 

[SWFL-239]

Thank you. for the advice. I haven’t done labs since august so I am past due anyways. I’ll go ahead and get a full panel done tomorrow. Usually takes a week to get E results. Kinda the same question if I adjust primo dose down how long should I run the lower dose before testing E again. E test are cheap so if I only need to run a set dose for a week. I could adjust blind get labs Friday at 400mg drop to 300mg get labs next Friday for 300mg results for 400, drop to 200…. See which 2 results put me close then dial in. I can see how this will be a pain if you have to run set dose for a couple weeks and wait for results before adjusting. I guess I really don’t understand the method of action of the AI effect is it an immediate effect or does it have a half life.

 

[SWFL-239]

I get blood work in 6 days (the 4 week mark) to find out how much my E2 has been lowered from 127 on 200 Test-C and 400 Primo. My skin is still a little oily but my knees are starting to ache. lol I do aromatize a shit ton. I got to the 127 mark in 4 weeks (from 30) with 150 Test-C and 300iu HCG EOD.

If my E2 is in the toilet, I will bump the Test-C to 300 drop the Primo to 200 and add 200 Mast-E and recheck in 4 weeks. The joys of trying new compounds and seeing how your body reacts.

I’m lean 10-11% but I never run AI E is usually in the 70-130 range never really get sides. But I do want to run primo I like what I’m seeing so far and it will be interesting to run E in a normal range see if results differ from letting it run wild.

I inject oils EOD and 250iu hcg the days I’m not doing oil. I’m just getting into adding compounds. NPP and deca were my first addition last year. This year primo will definitely order a kit of mast but want to get this primo dialed in first.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Thank you. for the advice. I haven’t done labs since august so I am past due anyways. I’ll go ahead and get a full panel done tomorrow. Usually takes a week to get E results. Kinda the same question if I adjust primo dose down how long should I run the lower dose before testing E again. E test are cheap so if I only need to run a set dose for a week. I could adjust blind get labs Friday at 400mg drop to 300mg get labs next Friday for 300mg results for 400, drop to 200…. See which 2 results put me close then dial in. I can see how this will be a pain if you have to run set dose for a couple weeks and wait for results before adjusting. I guess I really don’t understand the method of action of the AI effect is it an immediate effect or does it have a half life.

I don’t have much advice here other than Primo has around a 10 day half life. Checking E2 1-2 weeks after lowering Primo will not be very useful. After I make adjustments I usually recheck in 4-6 weeks.

Maybe another member here has a guesstimate on when E2 might be impacted by lowering Primo.

 

[SWFL-239]

Come to club peanuts and you can probably run 200 test without e2 issues

I tried when I first started TRT alway ran hcg when I was younger doing 12 week cycle. So didn’t know how small they could actually get. Was a little too shocking. Funny enough it was getting charged $300 for 5000iu vial of hcg that drove me back to the grey market.

 

[SWFL-239]

I don’t have much advice here other than Primo has around a 10 day half life. Checking E2 1-2 weeks after lowering Primo will not be very useful. After I make adjustments I usually recheck in 4-6 weeks.

Maybe another member here has a guesstimate on when E2 might be impacted by lowering Primo.

That’s what I was kinda figuring probably need to run a set dose for 5 weeks to allow stable serum levels. Probably a better idea to run the 400mg for a few more weeks then get labs. I haven’t really been able to find any real research on the AI effects of primo just forum talk.

 

[OldGHGuy]

I'm on TRT now (140 Test C) but plan to run an old man cycle of 300 Test C with 100 Primo weekly (with Var pre-workout) pinned E3D for 10 weeks starting in April. At my age (and winter powerlifting bodyfat of 20-21%) 300 Test C raises my E2 to around 80 which means I'm holding more water that wanted/needed. I've never tried Primo so hoping I can avoid the AI (I usually use 250mcg of anastrozole on pin days which brings my E2 down to 40's)

 

[17SS]

I tried when I first started TRT alway ran hcg when I was younger doing 12 week cycle. So didn’t know how small they could actually get. Was a little too shocking. Funny enough it was getting charged $300 for 5000iu vial of hcg that drove me back to the grey market.

I told the HRT clinic I’m using for the scripts I’ll just get HCG from China or India if I needed any because it’s dirt cheap and he laughed.

 

[Grey Spartan]

I told the HRT clinic I’m using for the scripts I’ll just get HCG from China or India if I needed any because it’s dirt cheap and he laughed.

Ya, when I told my HRT clinic how inexpensive China and India was the said it is all fake. lol

 

[glpfun]

Ya, when I told my HRT clinic how inexpensive China and India was the said it is all fake. lol

The Eutrig janoshik tests that one vendor did showed some were overdosed by 2x. I have heard that certain brands of Indian pharma are consistently under dosed though.

 

[Whopperflopper]

Thinking of Primo, or Mast for Trt+.

Just got labs, been doing 300 Test C week. Everything good, in range except A1C, Fsh, and E at 97.

So realy, no issue's.

 

[OldGHGuy]

Thinking of Primo, or Mast for Trt+.

Just got labs, been doing 300 Test C week. Everything good, in range except A1C, Fsh, and E at 97.

So realy, no issue's.

If you can live with 97 roll with it. I hold water and get the corresponding BP increases that high so I like to at least cut it in halfish from there.