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[Ghoul]

I was discussing degradation. but since you bring up sterility. Pretty sure vacuum helps maintain sterility but does not achieve it Could be wrong

more than 1/20 vials? Where are you getting this? post a quote





Propose what?

Do some testing and take some initiative.

Why haven't you even talked about doing initiative of testing your own products?


You are avoiding the topic of YOU TAKING SOME REAL ACTION ON HARM REDUCTION.


BTW there is nothing wrong with people that live in a trailer park you twat.

Whats the real problem is someone who has dedicated his whole year to sitting his ass on these forums with no life outside of his computer chair. No practical application or real world experience into anything but what pubmed has posted.

I already told you once. You can bullshit yourself about the reason for your "testing", but that's about a dealer checking the quality of his stock. You're not gaslighting me.

My initiative has been relentlessly advocating for sensible, proven practices that reduce risk, in the face of endless criticism from you and @Alan43, insisting sterile filtering peptide is unnecessary.

Who's promoting harm reduction, and who's promoting careless risk taking?

Edit: I forgot who I'm dealing with here, let me help you out:

TAMC (Total Aerobic Microbial Count) and TYMC (Total Yeast/Mold Count) are used for bioburden testing of bacteria and fungi in raw materials

Post in thread 'Readalots Enhanced Testing'

Dec 28, 2024

Failure rates for endotoxin and tamc+tymc the way we do it are indeed quite low, roughly 5%.

It's mostly peptides failing, though.

• janoshik

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This should come as no surprise. These vials aren't being lypholized in a clean room, to any kind of sterility standard. They could've been freeze drying fish snacks in the same machines the day before for all we know.

They've gotten used to doing it this way because until very recently, these tests haven't been done, and no one's been holding their feet to the fire.

How the fuck could anyone oppose sterile filtration of these compounds? Especially where vacuum isn't even present?

Harm reduction? Yeah, sure. A real bunch of heroes.

 

[readalot]

Lyophilization of Parenterals

Drugs, Biologics, Diagnostics

www.fda.gov

Lyophilization of Parenteral (7/93)

Lyophilization of Parenteral (7/93)

www.fda.gov

Very nice reviews.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Who knows what caused the lack of vacuum? A slow leak, or a sudden leak in transit. The end user has no way of knowing,

Is this where we are now? You need direct evidence that someone's illness was caused by a contaminated vial or it's all nonsense?

At least sterile filtering it would eliminate that risk. It's standard lab practice with any lyophilized peptide that's going to be used in vivo. Lab rats are worthy of more precautions than members?

What's the purpose of vacuum sealing? Do you know? I'm serious. What do you think the purpose is, or would you advocate vendors just end that process?

I wouldn’t advocate for vendors to end the process. But lack of vacuum is not proof of a compromised seal.

I’ve read a lot of peptide books and articles by medical professionals and experts. Not once did I come across the recommendation to filter before use. I find it odd that it’s only really discussed and recommended here by people who have zero expertise in this area. My guess is if you took your mission to other steroid forums you would be quickly run off. You should post a disclaimer before every post that you are really not qualified to give the advice and recommendations that you so often give. And you have no real world experience to base your recommendations other than what you’ve read on the internet.

 

[Deezznutzz]

Yes

Express Mail Service , EMS .
I can do Fedex over 500$ orders too (Only Hgh and Peptides)

Pharmagrade and Lobster International Section can be shipped together with Regular Post, and EMS.

Thank you

What shipping do I choose if I wanted to come to a USPS post office box? I was thinking about ordering from Lobster International. @TheLobster

 

[Var1]

I wouldn’t advocate for vendors to end the process. But lack of vacuum is not proof of a compromised seal.

I’ve read a lot of peptide books and articles by medical professionals and experts. Not once did I come across the recommendation to filter before use. I find it odd that it’s only really discussed and recommended here by people who have zero expertise in this area. My guess is if you took your mission to other steroid forums you would be quickly run off. You should post a disclaimer before every post that you are really not qualified to give the advice and recommendations that you so often give. And you have no real world experience to base your recommendations other than what you’ve read on the internet.

Most sensible post I’ve read for about 10 pages ! Members are so up there own arse they think they’re fucking Einstein! Give it a rest Jesus

 

[AlexDavis43]

I wouldn’t advocate for vendors to end the process. But lack of vacuum is not proof of a compromised seal.

I’ve read a lot of peptide books and articles by medical professionals and experts. Not once did I come across the recommendation to filter before use. I find it odd that it’s only really discussed and recommended here by people who have zero expertise in this area. My guess is if you took your mission to other steroid forums you would be quickly run off. You should post a disclaimer before every post that you are really not qualified to give the advice and recommendations that you so often give. And you have no real world experience to base your recommendations other than what you’ve read on the internet.

ChatGPT is a helluva drug.

 

[BamaCrazy]

ChatGPT is a helluva drug.

It must be. But I’ll take TNE over it any day. Haha

 

[rxzed]

I wouldn’t advocate for vendors to end the process. But lack of vacuum is not proof of a compromised seal.

Vacuum does more than just ensure an uncompromised seal.

I’ve read a lot of peptide books and articles by medical professionals and experts. Not once did I come across the recommendation to filter before use.

They are likely referring to pharma grade products strictly regulated with accountability for their negligence that leads to adverse reactions.

I find it odd that it’s only really discussed and recommended here by people who have zero expertise in this area.

You are on a steroid forum. People with 'expertise' in this area are managing the processes for multi billion dollar pharmaceutical manufacters, not people injecting underground product from an unregulated lab in China.

My guess is if you took your mission to other steroid forums you would be quickly run off.

Other steroid forums will tell you it's okay to reuse needles to save a few bucks, because they prioritize peddling products, not harm reduction.

You should post a disclaimer before every post that you are really not qualified to give the advice and recommendations that you so often give. And you have no real world experience to base your recommendations other than what you’ve read on the internet.

You are missing the entire point of this forum.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I already told you once. You can bullshit yourself about the reason for your "testing", but that's about a dealer checking the quality of his stock. You're not gaslighting me.

My initiative has been relentlessly advocating for sensible, proven practices that reduce risk, in the face of endless criticism from you and @Alan43, insisting sterile filtering peptide is unnecessary.

Who's promoting harm reduction, and who's promoting careless risk taking?

Edit: I forgot who I'm dealing with here, let me help you out:

TAMC (Total Aerobic Microbial Count) and TYMC (Total Yeast/Mold Count) are used for bioburden testing of bacteria and fungi in raw materials

Post in thread 'Readalots Enhanced Testing'

Dec 28, 2024

Failure rates for endotoxin and tamc+tymc the way we do it are indeed quite low, roughly 5%.

It's mostly peptides failing, though.

• janoshik

• 

This should come as no surprise. These vials aren't being lypholized in a clean room, to any kind of sterility standard. They could've been freeze drying fish snacks in the same machines the day before for all we know.

They've gotten used to doing it this way because until very recently, these tests haven't been done, and no one's been holding their feet to the fire.

How the fuck could anyone oppose sterile filtration of these compounds? Especially where vacuum isn't even present?

Harm reduction? Yeah, sure. A real bunch of heroes.

Lol he said roughly.

Where is your own testing? Where is your own harm reduction?

Let's see it big boy. Stop piggy backing off of other people's testing?

Sterile products can contain endotoxin (LPS) - it's just a part of bacterial cell wall, you don't need it alive.

It's a non issue in synthetic peptides, though.

 

[Ghoul]

Most sensible post I’ve read for about 10 pages ! Members are so up there own arse they think they’re fucking Einstein! Give it a rest Jesus

Go fuck yourself too.

Knuckle draggers yapping "I pinned it and it was fine" was the same shit on this forum when "boiling" gear was the standard for safety, and the guys suggesting .45um filtration were endlessly criticized.

Do what you want, I've never given a fuck what someone's decided what their risk tolerance is, but understand the impotent rage of status quo dinosaurs will do nothing to stop me from advocating what I think will increase harm reduction.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Vacuum does more than just ensure an uncompromised seal.

They are likely referring to pharma grade products strictly regulated with accountability for their negligence that leads to adverse reactions.

You are on a steroid forum. People with 'expertise' in this area are managing the processes for multi billion dollar pharmaceutical manufacters, not people injecting underground product from an unregulated lab in China.

Other steroid forums will tell you it's okay to reuse needles to save a few bucks, because they prioritize peddling products, not harm reduction.

You are missing the entire point of this forum.

lol. I am not missing shit. This guy has brainwashed you into thinking his recommendations will reduce harm. What he preaches isn’t harm reduction. It’s self promotion. He is no more qualified to provide recommendations or advice to people about sterility, degradation, immunogenicity or filtering than my mailman is. But some people will listen to anyone who sounds like they know what they are talking about.

And I never said that a vacuum only ensures an uncompromised seal. I said lack of vacuum is not proof of a compromised seal.

 

[Ghoul]

Lol he said roughly.

Where is your own testing? Where is your own harm reduction?

Let's see it big boy. Stop piggy backing off of other people's testing?

I don't need to "test" shit to know sterile filtration is a sensible way of reducing risk of every single vial.

What test is going to prove that's unnecessary? Do you understand basic logic?

Keep advocating to "just pin it", vacuum sealed or not. That's your stated position. Defend it.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Go fuck yourself too.

Knuckle draggers yapping "I pinned it and it was fine" was the same shit on this forum when "boiling" gear was the standard for safety, and the guys suggesting .45um filtration were endlessly criticized.

Do what you want, I've never given a fuck what someone's decided what their risk tolerance is, but understand the impotent rage of status quo dinosaurs will do nothing to stop me from advocating what I think will increase harm reduction.

good, keep calling us knuckle draggers, We will keep calling you some deadbeat loser behind a keyboard with no life

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I don't need to "test" shit to know sterile filtration is a sensible way of reducing risk of every single vial.

What test is going to prove that's unnecessary? Do you understand basic logic?

Better than you.

herp derp, how many test vials can I make with 100g?

For someone can do all these calculations and interpretations you cannot even do basic fucking math.

I am so glad you DMed me a dumb fucking question like that

 

[readalot]

Comparing Lyophilization in Vials and Dual-Chamber Systems

The author discusses the relative advantages and disadvantages of lyophilization in vials and dual-chamber systems.

www.pharmtech.com

 

[Ghoul]

good, keep calling us knuckle draggers, We will keep calling you some deadbeat loser behind a keyboard with no life

You, @AlexDavis43, @BamaCrazy, and @Var1 just keep advocating that sterile filtering peptides is unnecessary. Stick to your guns, because I'll be sticking to mine.

 

[rxzed]

lol. I am not missing shit. This guy has brainwashed you into thinking his recommendations will reduce harm.

Maybe provide a few examples?

What he preaches isn’t harm reduction. It’s self promotion.

Of fucking what.

He is no more qualified to provide recommendations or advice to people about sterility, degradation, immunogenicity or filtering than my mailman is. But some people will listen to anyone who sounds like they know what they are talking about.

You're right. The difference is his recommendations are based on studies done by people with extensive qualifications, not shooting from the hip and give unsupported, illogical claims.

And I never said that a vacuum only ensures an uncompromised seal. I said lack of vacuum is not proof of a compromised seal.

So why even question the relevance and importance of a vacuum? Also, a vacuum seal is the only reliable way for us to ensure the prevention of outside contamination entering the vial.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

You, @AlexDavis43, @BamaCrazy, and @Var1 just keep advocating that sterile filtering peptides is unnecessary. Stick to your guns, because I'll be sticking to mine.

Keep using non tested gear/peptides,

Ill be sticking to mine.


you refuse to answer why you dont test your shit.

 

[Var1]

Go fuck yourself too.

Knuckle draggers yapping "I pinned it and it was fine" was the same shit on this forum when "boiling" gear was the standard for safety, and the guys suggesting .45um filtration were endlessly criticized.

Do what you want, I've never given a fuck what someone's decided what their risk tolerance is, but understand the impotent rage of status quo dinosaurs will do nothing to stop me from advocating what I think will increase harm reduction.

You been on the Mexican fentanyl again?

 

[readalot]

Very nice review. Read the whole paper. Apologies if someone already posted this.

https://jpharmsci.org/article/S0022-3549(18)30457-X/abstract

Expanding Bedside Filtration—A Powerful Tool to Protect Patients From Protein Aggregates

BTW, HGH was included in this study.