Second cycle

[BabaJagga]

So guys, what was your second cycle/blast?

Did you add more compounds or just stick to test? Same dose or higher dose? Mg, duration?

If you could, would you change it?

Let me know your experiences.

 

[Eddie.]

Well, based on my little experience i'd say age plays a role here and i will explain why.

If you're young like below 30 and you're determined to experiment with gear for years like blasting and cruising before transition to a true TRT i would say there's no reason to rush it now with high dosages or more than 2 compounds. You will have plenty of time to try all sorts of things if that's what you want.

I started gear just before turn 36 and i kinda rushed it, without any regrets of course. I'm not planning to run harsh compounds or 2-3 grams while approaching into 50's, so i started with low test like a cruise for couple months and my first actual cycle was Test+Primo with some var last weeks. I was just under 500mg total injectables.

Second cycle was Test/EQ and last weeks i added NPP and anadrol. Total milligrams were a lil under 1gr for injectables + anadrol.

Someone could say going from 500mg to 1000mg on second cycle was too much or unnecessary and i kinda agree but as i already said i wanna push some gear now that i'm somewhat young and not milk every cycle mg for mg to end up doing 1000mg at 45.

To be completely honest i was expecting more with double the milligrams but it doesn't work that way. People who say more is not always better, they are correct. Unless you go from 500mg to 3000mg which is dumb AF obviously.

Just remember this, even with gear progress and muscle gain is something that takes years, considering diet and training is on point too. Use as much as you need (ok, maybe slightly more for the fun of it) and that's it.

 

[BabaJagga]

Well, based on my little experience i'd say age plays a role here and i will explain why.

If you're young like below 30 and you're determined to experiment with gear for years like blasting and cruising before transition to a true TRT i would say there's no reason to rush it now with high dosages or more than 2 compounds. You will have plenty of time to try all sorts of things if that's what you want.

I started gear just before turn 36 and i kinda rushed it, without any regrets of course. I'm not planning to run harsh compounds or 2-3 grams while approaching into 50's, so i started with low test like a cruise for couple months and my first actual cycle was Test+Primo with some var last weeks. I was just under 500mg total injectables.

Second cycle was Test/EQ and last weeks i added NPP and anadrol. Total milligrams were a lil under 1gr for injectables + anadrol.

Someone could say going from 500mg to 1000mg on second cycle was too much or unnecessary and i kinda agree but as i already said i wanna push some gear now that i'm somewhat young and not milk every cycle mg for mg to end up doing 1000mg at 45.

To be completely honest i was expecting more with double the milligrams but it doesn't work that way. People who say more is not always better, they are correct. Unless you go from 500mg to 3000mg which is dumb AF obviously.

Just remember this, even with gear progress and muscle gain is something that takes years, considering diet and training is on point too. Use as much as you need (ok, maybe slightly more for the fun of it) and that's it.

this is not question for MY second cycle or anything like that, im just bit bored, alone in spa and wanted to hear peoples experience.

so, you are almost 50 and looking like that photo from other thread? mate you are fckin huge... congrats....

i have friend that did 250mg first time, for second he added deca and bolndenon, 600mg of each for half a year. he told me it was too much to handle (im not suprised), depressions, problems etc. so i wanted to hear from someone that has done it "the right way".

 

[PermaBlastingTren]

first cycle was 500test and 50dbol, i added 570EQ and 50anadrol alongside them in my second blast. ran both on a bulk

wouldn't change anything.

 

[RekTest]

Im not a very good writer so I don’t comment much

My 2nd cycle I added NPP and loved it, could I still gained off of solely just test? Sure, but if you like to experiment and try new things there is nothing saying you have to stick to X compound for X amount of cycles before you can add more,
The only thing I would add is only add one thing at a time so you can learn how your body responds and reacts so if you get sides/etc you know what it is from.


Alot of stuff you have to just do yourself, to see what you like etc.
because a lot of people say high test is best, then theres people who let the 2nd compound do the work.
You just have to try things and see what you like.

There is no right or wrong in this game. Each person will be different and have a different experience with each a different journey.

 

[BabaJagga]

first cycle was 500test and 50dbol, i added 570EQ and 50anadrol alongside them in my second blast. ran both on a bulk

wouldn't change anything.

dbol for first weeks or? you had to explode in size with that combo probably?

 

[BabaJagga]

Im not a very good writer so I don’t comment much

My 2nd cycle I added NPP and loved it, could I still gained off of solely just test? Sure, but if you like to experiment and try new things there is nothing saying you have to stick to X compound for X amount of cycles before you can add more,
The only thing I would add is only add one thing at a time so you can learn how your body responds and reacts so if you get sides/etc you know what it is from.


Alot of stuff you have to just do yourself, to see what you like etc.
because a lot of people say high test is best, then theres people who let the 2nd compound do the work.
You just have to try things and see what you like.

There is no right or wrong in this game. Each person will be different and have a different experience with each a different journey.

and in which point you did 2g of tren? that will be forever im my head mate. cant even imagine how that must have felt

 

[PermaBlastingTren]

dbol for first weeks or? you had to explode in size with that combo probably?

first and last weeks

 

[Eddie.]

this is not question for MY second cycle or anything like that, im just bit bored, alone in spa and wanted to hear peoples experience.

so, you are almost 50 and looking like that photo from other thread? mate you are fckin huge... congrats....

i have friend that did 250mg first time, for second he added deca and bolndenon, 600mg of each for half a year. he told me it was too much to handle (im not suprised), depressions, problems etc. so i wanted to hear from someone that has done it "the right way".

No i'm almost 37, i'm on gear for 15 months now and in those 15 months i've done 3 cruise phases and 2 cycles.

I'm just saying i'm willing to experiment and push things a little now that i'm relatively young and healthy, i don't want to milk each cycle and go TOO slow because this will make me "ready" for somewhat higher cycles when i approach 50's and this is something i don't want to.

In my 50's God first, i'd like to do some HRT++ and maintain as much as i can from the muscles i'm building now.

 

[RekTest]

and in which point you did 2g of tren? that will be forever im my head mate. cant even imagine how that must have felt

3rd
I don’t recommend tren, ever. It was cool my body changing daily but I was in literally hell, and again I cant thank iris enough for getting me off that devil shit because without her I would not have cared to stop and no idea what would have happened to me today

Im contemplating adding a low 100-150mg npp to my trt and then when I want to bulk just up the NPP. My easiest cycle was the 2nd, low test high npp literally no sides and massive strength
I saw one comment mention he was running npp with his trt and was gaining pretty good size so Ive been researching on doing it.
Few people mentioned npp does heart stuff only reason I haven’t done it, but ive only read it 3 times csnt find anything concrete on it yet but also haven’t looked hard either

 

[BabaJagga]

No i'm almost 37, i'm on gear for 15 months now and in those 15 months i've done 3 cruise phases and 2 cycles.

I'm just saying i'm willing to experiment and push things a little now that i'm relatively young and healthy, i don't want to milk each cycle and go TOO slow because this will make me "ready" for somewhat higher cycles when i approach 50's and this is something i don't want to.

In my 50's God first, i'd like to do some HRT++ and maintain as much as i can from the muscles i'm building now.

got it now, ive missread your post, sorry.

what was your lenght of blast and cruise phases?

i would also love to try almost everything but so much sides from many compounds are too scary for me. i will for sure stay away from 19nors for example.

 

[BabaJagga]

3rd
I don’t recommend tren, ever. It was cool my body changing daily but I was in literally hell, and again I cant thank iris enough for getting me off that devil shit because without her I would not have cared to stop and no idea what would have happened to me today

Im contemplating adding a low 100-150mg npp to my trt and then when I want to bulk just up the NPP. My easiest cycle was the 2nd, low test high npp literally no sides and massive strength
I saw one comment mention he was running npp with his trt and was gaining pretty good size so Ive been researching on doing it.
Few people mentioned npp does heart stuff only reason I haven’t done it, but ive only read it 3 times csnt find anything concrete on it yet but also haven’t looked hard either

i would be scared of mental sides of nandrolone.

anyway, ive heard crazy tren stories from few of my friends. i know one guy that had hearth attack at 23 i think? my ex high school buddy. tren did too much damage probably, he ran it too high for too long, ruined relationships with so many chicks etc.

im always amazed and scared when i hear these stories.

 

[Anat]

Ah, the memories of my second 14-week cycle - good times, but definitely not something I’d repeat. Looked like this:

Weeks 1–14: EQ– 1000mg/week
Weeks 1–14: Test E – 500mg/week
Weeks 5–14: Mast P – 600mg/week
Weeks 1–6: Anavar – 60mg/day
Weeks 7–14: Winstrol – 50mg/day
Weeks 1–6: ECA stack
Weeks 7–14: Clenbuterol
Weeks 7–14: Yohimbine
Weeks 7–14: Ketotifen

Would I ever run this again? Hell no. Looking back, it was way too much. These days, I stick to Test E/C, EQ, and Mast E - simple, effective, and no unnecessary stress on the body.

But hey, it all comes down to your goals. Before throwing a bunch of compounds together, ask yourself:

1. What’s your target weight and body fat %?
2. How solid is your diet?
3. How long have you been training consistently?

Figure that out first - then build your cycle with a purpose, not just for the sake of adding more stuff.

 

[RekTest]

i would be scared of mental sides of nandrolone.

anyway, ive heard crazy tren stories from few of my friends. i know one guy that had hearth attack at 23 i think? my ex high school buddy. tren did too much damage probably, he ran it too high for too long, ruined relationships with so many chicks etc.

im always amazed and scared when i hear these stories.

To me, NPP is just a sad cloud. Mental sides to me are things that change or affect what I project out in the world, and NPP doesn’t do that, like tren does.
Tren I was a lunatic.. very much so.

 

[Eddie.]

got it now, ive missread your post, sorry.

what was your lenght of blast and cruise phases?

i would also love to try almost everything but so much sides from many compounds are too scary for me. i will for sure stay away from 19nors for example.

My blasts were from 15-18 weeks and cruise phases from 7-9 weeks. I tried boldenone and nandrolone in small dosages though but thankfully i had zero sides.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

I was hitting the Pro-Chem Onerip so Trenbolone and Masteron.. I ran it for a while as I remember the guy at the gym eventually asking "this isn't all for you is it?"

 

[BabaJagga]

I was hitting the Pro-Chem Onerip so Trenbolone and Masteron.. I ran it for a while as I remember the guy at the gym eventually asking "this isn't all for you is it?"

that sounds like indication that it was too much
how did you like masteron?

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

that sounds like indication that it was too much
how did you like masteron?

Definitely too much..

Masteron.. I loved it then and I love it now, although back then obviously was overshadowed by the Tren..

My recent use with Test, Mast and HGH have been very pleasant.. I feel you have to find a sweet spot though as too much of either has me low sex drive.. Also it can dry you out like a mother fucker so I watch my joints now..

 

[BabaJagga]

Definitely too much..

Masteron.. I loved it then and I love it now, although back then obviously was overshadowed by the Tren..

My recent use with Test, Mast and HGH have been very pleasant.. I feel you have to find a sweet spot though as too much of either has me low sex drive.. Also it can dry you out like a mother fucker so I watch my joints now..

too much mast made sex drive too low? first time im reading that. did you have better vascularity on it? more veiny look?

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

too much mast made sex drive too low? first time im reading that. did you have better vascularity on it? more veiny look?

I believe it's more to do with how long I was running it, it seemed when I ran Mast higher than Test I would have no drive at all.. I still felt great in every other aspect..

Yes it always makes me more vascular.. Quad veins pop out and I start to get the veins over my abs..