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Lb187 said:
Who wants your help? LOL me and someone else posted our thoughts on the green tops. I tossed the shit. What help do I need from some noobies in the scene? I got the same 10mg from a different source. 1 5mg shot all sides are back as is appetite suppression..

I said my piece. Not asking for anything. Just posted my experience. Now back to the scource rimming for you and narta..
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Wish you the best brother
Peace
 
Ghoul said:
bro...

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I dont really feel like arguing and I am bout to have to head out to work because my dumb ass has a job(how miserable huh) I lost 88 lbs without a GLP.. in 10 months, then I took 2 years of working out starting at not even able to do 1 push up.. couldn't even walk fast without hurting so bad in my ankles I want to fucking cry..... but I didn't, I fucking kept on to where I could run 8 minute miles and do 600 burpees in an hour.. I worked my fucking ass off.. Then started using gear, and continue to work my ass off with diet , exercise and gear.. I do not just stick the shit in my body and set back and let it do all the work..
Look I'm all for anyone grabbing all they can to help them save their lives and hit their goals.. I have a problem with winny ass fuckers, and that's what dude is.
 
Dirthand said:
I dont really feel like arguing and I am bout to have to head out to work because my dumb ass has a job(how miserable huh) I lost 88 lbs without a GLP.. in 10 months, then I took 2 years of working out starting at not even able to do 1 push up.. couldn't even walk fast without hurting so bad in my ankles I want to fucking cry..... but I didn't, I fucking kept on to where I could run 8 minute miles and do 600 burpees in an hour.. I worked my fucking ass off.. Then started using gear, and continue to work my ass off with diet , exercise and gear.. I do not just stick the shit in my body and set back and let it do all the work..
Look I'm all for anyone grabbing all they can to help them save their lives and hit their goals.. I have a problem with winny ass fuckers, and that's what dude is.
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Can we all schedule a rage posting session here @ 7AM (EST) every Monday? The last 15 minutes were awesome.

It usually takes a pot of coffee to get invigorated like this :)


PS: I'd like to thank everyone for bringing their A game to the insults. Nice to see no one was slacking.
 
Ghoul said:
Can we all schedule a rage posting session here @ 7AM (EST) every Monday? The last 15 minutes were awesome.

It usually takes a pot of coffee to get invigorated like this :)


PS: I'd like to thank everyone for bringing their A game to the insults. Nice to see no one was slacking.
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As long as someone gets called a hobo everytime. It's just one of those words that always makes me chuckle.
 
Ghoul said:
There's a lot more to efficacy than a simple measurement of the active ingredient.

Clowns are all about "the science" unless that science comes from somewhere other than Jano's HPLC machine.
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I'd like to chime in on that. A while ago I complained about a vendor's orals, that there was no noticable effect (Jano test was good). People who fap to a Jano tests, told me to test it. Everybody's different, I get it. Nonetheless I do not see the point testing when there is literally zero benefit. The vendor won't change factory's production process anyway.

So let's take a look at other points than active ingredient here and this is where I just want to say "Fe3Lz RePoRt" might be not just for retards. This is by ChatGPT, I know some people here are smarter, they can ignore that post.

1. Formulation & Manufacturing Errors​

  • No protective matrix or coating: Without enteric coating or matrix protection, the compound may degrade in the stomach or even before ingestion is complete.
  • Lack of micronization: If the raw powder isn't finely ground (micronized), it won’t dissolve efficiently in the gut → minimal absorption.
  • No lipid-based carrier: These steroids are lipophilic (fat-soluble), and without fat or oil in the formulation, their absorption is significantly impaired.
  • Inappropriate excipients: Certain fillers like talc, dicalcium phosphate, or poorly chosen binders can hinder proper disintegration or absorption.

2. Issues with the Active Ingredient​

  • Improper synthesis: If the molecule is not correctly synthesized, it may be chemically inactive or unstable.
  • Degradation from poor storage: Light, heat, air, or moisture can oxidize or denature the compound, making it ineffective.
  • Adulteration or dilution: The presence of bulking agents or impurities reduces actual dose and potency.

3. Bioavailability Problems​

  • First-pass liver metabolism: If the compound isn’t formulated to resist heavy hepatic breakdown, it may be almost entirely metabolized before reaching circulation.
  • Incorrect pH exposure: Steroids require a certain pH to remain stable; if exposed to unfavorable pH without buffering, they may degrade.
  • No protection against enzymatic breakdown: Some substances are sensitive to enzymes in the digestive tract and need protection to remain active.

4. Red Flag: Tablets Dissolve Too Quickly (e.g., in the mouth)​

  • This often indicates low compression pressure or weak binders used during tableting.
  • Rapid disintegration is unsuitable for lipophilic steroids → loss of active ingredient before proper absorption.
  • Suggests poor formulation design and likely poor systemic delivery.

5. What Would a Proper Tablet Require?​

  • Finely micronized and stable active compound.
  • Lipid-based delivery (e.g., with MCT oil or lecithin).
  • Adequate binding and timed disintegration—not too fast, not too slow.
  • Optional: enteric coating or pH-sensitive matrix to bypass stomach degradation.
 
forhealth87 said:
I'd like to chime in on that. A while ago I complained about a vendor's orals, that there was no noticable effect (Jano test was good). People who fap to a Jano tests, told me to test it. Everybody's different, I get it. Nonetheless I do not see the point testing when there is literally zero benefit. The vendor won't change factory's production process anyway.

So let's take a look at other points than active ingredient here and this is where I just want to say "Fe3Lz RePoRt" might be not just for retards. This is by ChatGPT, I know some people here are smarter, they can ignore that post.

1. Formulation & Manufacturing Errors​

  • No protective matrix or coating: Without enteric coating or matrix protection, the compound may degrade in the stomach or even before ingestion is complete.
  • Lack of micronization: If the raw powder isn't finely ground (micronized), it won’t dissolve efficiently in the gut → minimal absorption.
  • No lipid-based carrier: These steroids are lipophilic (fat-soluble), and without fat or oil in the formulation, their absorption is significantly impaired.
  • Inappropriate excipients: Certain fillers like talc, dicalcium phosphate, or poorly chosen binders can hinder proper disintegration or absorption.

2. Issues with the Active Ingredient​

  • Improper synthesis: If the molecule is not correctly synthesized, it may be chemically inactive or unstable.
  • Degradation from poor storage: Light, heat, air, or moisture can oxidize or denature the compound, making it ineffective.
  • Adulteration or dilution: The presence of bulking agents or impurities reduces actual dose and potency.

3. Bioavailability Problems​

  • First-pass liver metabolism: If the compound isn’t formulated to resist heavy hepatic breakdown, it may be almost entirely metabolized before reaching circulation.
  • Incorrect pH exposure: Steroids require a certain pH to remain stable; if exposed to unfavorable pH without buffering, they may degrade.
  • No protection against enzymatic breakdown: Some substances are sensitive to enzymes in the digestive tract and need protection to remain active.

4. Red Flag: Tablets Dissolve Too Quickly (e.g., in the mouth)​

  • This often indicates low compression pressure or weak binders used during tableting.
  • Rapid disintegration is unsuitable for lipophilic steroids → loss of active ingredient before proper absorption.
  • Suggests poor formulation design and likely poor systemic delivery.

5. What Would a Proper Tablet Require?​

  • Finely micronized and stable active compound.
  • Lipid-based delivery (e.g., with MCT oil or lecithin).
  • Adequate binding and timed disintegration—not too fast, not too slow.
  • Optional: enteric coating or pH-sensitive matrix to bypass stomach degradation.
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Stealth500 said:
walk dick first into a cheese grater.
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forhealth87 said:
I'd like to chime in on that. A while ago I complained about a vendor's orals, that there was no noticable effect (Jano test was good). People who fap to a Jano tests, told me to test it. Everybody's different, I get it. Nonetheless I do not see the point testing when there is literally zero benefit. The vendor won't change factory's production process anyway.

So let's take a look at other points than active ingredient here and this is where I just want to say "Fe3Lz RePoRt" might be not just for retards. This is by ChatGPT, I know some people here are smarter, they can ignore that post.

1. Formulation & Manufacturing Errors​

  • No protective matrix or coating: Without enteric coating or matrix protection, the compound may degrade in the stomach or even before ingestion is complete.
  • Lack of micronization: If the raw powder isn't finely ground (micronized), it won’t dissolve efficiently in the gut → minimal absorption.
  • No lipid-based carrier: These steroids are lipophilic (fat-soluble), and without fat or oil in the formulation, their absorption is significantly impaired.
  • Inappropriate excipients: Certain fillers like talc, dicalcium phosphate, or poorly chosen binders can hinder proper disintegration or absorption.

2. Issues with the Active Ingredient​

  • Improper synthesis: If the molecule is not correctly synthesized, it may be chemically inactive or unstable.
  • Degradation from poor storage: Light, heat, air, or moisture can oxidize or denature the compound, making it ineffective.
  • Adulteration or dilution: The presence of bulking agents or impurities reduces actual dose and potency.

3. Bioavailability Problems​

  • First-pass liver metabolism: If the compound isn’t formulated to resist heavy hepatic breakdown, it may be almost entirely metabolized before reaching circulation.
  • Incorrect pH exposure: Steroids require a certain pH to remain stable; if exposed to unfavorable pH without buffering, they may degrade.
  • No protection against enzymatic breakdown: Some substances are sensitive to enzymes in the digestive tract and need protection to remain active.

4. Red Flag: Tablets Dissolve Too Quickly (e.g., in the mouth)​

  • This often indicates low compression pressure or weak binders used during tableting.
  • Rapid disintegration is unsuitable for lipophilic steroids → loss of active ingredient before proper absorption.
  • Suggests poor formulation design and likely poor systemic delivery.

5. What Would a Proper Tablet Require?​

  • Finely micronized and stable active compound.
  • Lipid-based delivery (e.g., with MCT oil or lecithin).
  • Adequate binding and timed disintegration—not too fast, not too slow.
  • Optional: enteric coating or pH-sensitive matrix to bypass stomach degradation.
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So I got two things from this post.
1. You never got the oral tested so you are still basing your experience off of feelz and nothing more.
2. Maybe UGL isn’t for you. Their standards will never be up to true pharmaceutical standards. And there is no way to know whether any of the issues in your post exist in UGL orals or not. So it’s Jano or feelz or don’t buy UGL.
 
BamaCrazy said:
So I got two things from this post.
1. You never got the oral tested so you are still basing your experience off of feelz and nothing more.
2. Maybe UGL isn’t for you. Their standards will never be up to true pharmaceutical standards. And there is no way to know whether any of the issues in your post exist in UGL orals or not. So it’s Jano or feelz or don’t buy UGL.
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1. "feelz" not equal zero strengh gain.
2. never said that I expected that

Just wanted to point out there is more to it regarding bioavailability and if there is none you still have your jano test, right? :)

I will order on Amazon in future. Thank you, finally some enlightenment.
 
PatriotsEnjoyer said:
I placed a test order for a couple of kits. Shipping $ was standard for international. Turnaround was fast. They told me they would send the tracking after 2 days, and 2 days later I got the tracking without having to ask. Fast shipping too. 9 days from payment to my door. Could be my new go to.
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to USA?
 
Lb187 said:
Who wants your help? LOL me and someone else posted our thoughts on the green tops. I tossed the shit. What help do I need from some noobies in the scene? I got the same 10mg from a different source. 1 5mg shot all sides are back as is appetite suppression..

I said my piece. Not asking for anything. Just posted my experience. Now back to the scource
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Lb187 said:
Like I care some shrimp dick tren head who has no life...always on meso because no one else likes you or talks to you. Your on here with the only people who will interact with you. You literally stay posting all day and all night what a fucking lifeless loser... And you and these other assholes who gawk on these vendors like they give 2 fucks about you.

Its also the reason I don't participate in these pissing contests. This board used to hold sources accountable. No more harm reduction. More like who can talk the most shit..

It's very easy to tell if a peptide is working or not. So your telling me u go from 5mg to 12.5 and feel absolutely none of the effects you have been for a year? And you dont question it or is it just because your sucking chinamangirl dick because you need cheap gear?

My feelz report tells me your a crybaby pussy who needs to get some ass if you can raise your limp tren dick long enough to poke on one of those toothless methheads in your area.
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What kind of “experienced “ GLP-1 researcher buys 10mg jars anyway? Lol
 
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