SSA Generic HGH vs Genxtropin HGH (Which ones better)

They’re supposed to be the same drug; it’s just that SSA rHGH is slightly overdosed, so you probably get a larger dose, which explains the increased side effects.
I strongly disagree. I've run 6iu's of SSA GH and got a ton of bloat and I've run 12iu of Opti and got no bloating at all. I'm very lean so the bloat was a significant chance. Not all products are made the same. Also, the dimer in SSA GH is always tested higher and seems to be more common in their tests.
 
Still Chinese made, even when sold by a Turkish rug merchant.

....beware the vacuum-less vials.
So the final result is if I want to UGL I should just buy from China since virtually all other UGL just resell chinese GH with different packaging, you are saying that Lobster does not make his own GH?
 
So the final result is if I want to UGL I should just buy from China since virtually all other UGL just resell chinese GH with different packaging, you are saying that Lobster does not make his own GH?

No. No UGLs make their own. It requires highly skilled techs, operating a lab equipped with hundreds of thousands in equipment..

Keep in mind, the rHGH (or any peptide) content in a vial is the size of a few grains of sand. The rest, 99.99% of the volume is "excipient" ingredients, The selection of which is important, but rarely paid much attention to by UGLs.

In recent years raw rHGH has been sold by the labs producing it, leaving it to the UGL to produce the finished product, by mixing into a liquid with excipients, fill vials, insert stopper, run through a tabletop freeze dryer, crimp a cap on, and sell.

Thats what UGLs mean when they say they "manufacture" rHGH.
 
In recent years raw rHGH has been sold by the labs producing it, leaving it to the UGL to produce the finished product, by mixing into a liquid with excipients, fill vials, insert stopper, run through a tabletop freeze dryer, crimp a cap on, and sell.

Thats what UGLs mean when they say they "manufacture" rHGH.
Sooo does this mean just buy straight from the source (China?) or find a cheap UGL that does all the extra stuff for me or does the Chinese like SSA do this anyway, I have seen some pictures of SSA GH they quite similar to Lobster's
 
Sooo does this mean just buy straight from the source (China?) or find a cheap UGL that does all the extra stuff for me or does the Chinese like SSA do this anyway, I have seen some pictures of SSA GH they quite similar to Lobster's
Ha- so you're gonna make your decision based on some vial pics? Good luck with that.
 
4mm PES .22um sterile syringe filters are preferred because of minimal retained volume of fluid:


or


I keep 13mm and 25mm around since I've encountered peptides contaminated to the point you'd clog 3 or more 4mm filters trying to clean 3ml.
The difference is negligible and with an air purge the difference is close to 0.
With the price and difficulty in finding 4mm filter there is really no point in using them Vs a 13mm filter.

Not one reason to buy 4mm
 
Sooo does this mean just buy straight from the source (China?) or find a cheap UGL that does all the extra stuff for me or does the Chinese like SSA do this anyway, I have seen some pictures of SSA GH they quite similar to Lobster's

You should follow the posted test results and customer experiences in the thread to decide.

That said, there's likely very little practical difference between the two.

Ultimately there no guarantee of what you'll receive anyway,

Go with whichever deal works best for you and control what you can to maximize safety.

-reconstitute with pharma grade bac water (Hospira).

-filter with a .22um pes syringe filter into a sterile particulate fee vial.
 
So the final result is if I want to UGL I should just buy from China since virtually all other UGL just resell chinese GH with different packaging, you are saying that Lobster does not make his own GH?
Yes he does make his own HGH using GMP RAWS from a very renowned Chinese HGH manufacturer.

He does sell the HGH produced from the above mentioned manufacturer too, so you can find both on his website.
 
You should read what I wrote.
I don't understand these terms bro I only understand

Pharma = Regulated
UGL = some lad in his garage

You said he used GMP raws so that means regulated raw materials right but prepared and packaged by a normal guy? am I missing something
 
Here’s a simple tip: grab one kit from each source, and if your budget allows, throw in a pharma option like Pfizer Genotropin 36iu. Try them all and see what actually works best for you.

From what I’ve seen, SSA runs about $50 for 100iu plus shipping, Lobster is around $65 for 110iu + shipping, and you can also get Pfizer through Lobster - $160 for 32iu, if you’re feeling fancy. Everything gets delivered, you test them out, and that’s it. Most differences will be pretty minor, though SSA seems to cause a bit more water retention for some users.

As for Lobster - I’m running his HGH right now and honestly, no complaints. It reconstitutes noticeably faster in bac water compared to Q and Opti. Plus, you’ve got Jano test results and plenty of user feedback backing it up.
 
Here’s a simple tip: grab one kit from each source, and if your budget allows, throw in a pharma option like Pfizer Genotropin 36iu. Try them all and see what actually works best for you.

From what I’ve seen, SSA runs about $50 for 100iu plus shipping, Lobster is around $65 for 110iu + shipping, and you can also get Pfizer through Lobster - $160 for 32iu, if you’re feeling fancy. Everything gets delivered, you test them out, and that’s it. Most differences will be pretty minor, though SSA seems to cause a bit more water retention for some users.

As for Lobster - I’m running his HGH right now and honestly, no complaints. It reconstitutes noticeably faster in bac water compared to Q and Opti. Plus, you’ve got Jano test results and plenty of user feedback backing it up.
Yeah I'm leaning on Lobster just cause the EU domestic shipping times as well, even if he ((possibly)) might be repackaging chinese products according to some users, if people who have used SSA and Lobster and say Lobster has less sides then I'll believe them. I am not buying Pfizer 36IU I don't got that typa cash bro
 
Here’s a simple tip: grab one kit from each source, and if your budget allows, throw in a pharma option like Pfizer Genotropin 36iu. Try them all and see what actually works best for you.

From what I’ve seen, SSA runs about $50 for 100iu plus shipping, Lobster is around $65 for 110iu + shipping, and you can also get Pfizer through Lobster - $160 for 32iu, if you’re feeling fancy. Everything gets delivered, you test them out, and that’s it. Most differences will be pretty minor, though SSA seems to cause a bit more water retention for some users.

As for Lobster - I’m running his HGH right now and honestly, no complaints. It reconstitutes noticeably faster in bac water compared to Q and Opti. Plus, you’ve got Jano test results and plenty of user feedback backing it up.
I just got 360 IU from SSA for 130 bucks. that works out to be about 36 bucks for 100 IU .
 
Here's my HGH experience, all at 4iu per day.

K4L UGL- 2 kits, had the classic side effect. Swelling of fingers and feet.

China- 1kit- couldn't tell any difference between K4L.

Opti UGL- 1 kit- side effects went away completely. Cant tell if the quality is better, or my body finely got used to it, or it's bunk, or....?

Anyways, tempted to use 1 more china kit to see if the sides come back.
 
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