MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Cloudy/Lumpy HGH
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StoopidGoat
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Im glad I can just link this now.
You shouldn't be using if you arent filtering.
AlexDavis43
Member
Im glad I can just link this now.
You shouldn't be using if you arent filtering.
So all the bodybuilders and kids with GH deficiency have been doing it wrong all along, huh
Weird that it has always worked
Ateam2023
Member
officially a "bubble boy",, and i thought you were cool,, lolIm glad I can just link this now.
You shouldn't be using if you arent filtering.
Im glad I can just link this now.
You shouldn't be using if you arent filtering.
Im glad I can just link this now.
You shouldn't be using if you arent filtering.
did ghoul teach you about this?Im glad I can just link this now.
You shouldn't be using if you arent filtering.
AlexDavis43
Member
did ghoul teach you about this?
Who else has been fear mongering non-filtered GH
Non-filtered GH does not present a harm that needs to be reduced; filtering it is not harm reduction. It's paranoia.
Scientific
New Member
Did u transfer to new vial or just use same?
StoopidGoat
New Member
I should have specified, don't use questionable chinese HGH without filtering.
Ghoul
Member
It doesn't take a genius to understand that reducing the amount of contaminants being injected into your body reduces risk.
The risk from a single contaminated injection is small. The cumulative risk of injecting 500ml+ a year of gear and peptides, or 10% of your total blood volume, year after year, is obviously much higher.
Almost no one injects as much volume as this community. Not even diabetics or street drug users.
Hospital patients on IV's come close, and .22um in line filters are now used as a result of all the crap (plastic, undissolved drug particles) from those IVs found lodged in their organs during autopsies. Infants have died as a result. This is from high quality pharma regulated drugs, not garbage from unregulated, illegal Chinese drug labs with no inspections or safety standards.
The first time a crystal clear reconstituted peptide clogs up a 13mm filter after less then 1ml (it should handle 10x that) is an eye opener. To put this in perspective, a .22um filter pore is 4500 times wider than an rHGH monomer. It takes a lot of debris that's much larger than rHGH to clog the entire filter.
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Kaching
Member
Have ordered a bunch of sterile PES filters direct from Alibaba, super cheap and serios WHY NOT???
We so or so dont realy know what is inside, then better get it "cleaner".
Thank Ghoul for eye opening.
We so or so dont realy know what is inside, then better get it "cleaner".
Thank Ghoul for eye opening.
Ghoul
Member
Good move. After putting to bed concerns that filtering might damage peptides (which ironically, I brought up then was used to argue against filtering lol) it became a matter of, at worst, "a very small waste of time and money".
But after you feel a filter seize up on you the first time, sometimes on just one vial out of an entire kit, doubts about whether it's doing anything useful evaporate.
I don't judge anyone for not filtering. I don't particularly care. Plenty of sensible people could reasonably wag their finger at me for using UGL anything. For me this is low hanging fruit for reducing potential risks. It may also improve the effectiveness of the peptide, so it's worth it to me.
Besides, I've always enjoyed the "ritual" of preparing injections, this step adds to it, so I don't see it as a chore.
StoopidGoat
New Member
I mean, I would be very concerned if people werent filtering the SSA stuff. While my vials haven't been as bad as some others, I can see particulate in the correct lighting and focus in vials that generally appear clear.
AlexDavis43
Member
Filtering clear GH reduces about as much harm as brushing your teeth 4 instead of 3 times a day
Ghoul
Member
90um protein aggregate subvisible, therefore harmless.
100um particles, visible, of course that's a hazard.
Which biological process removes glass, plastic, and rubber injected deep below the skin? Glass dissolving enzymes?
Spaceman Spiff
Subscriber
I are antibody
StoopidGoat
New Member
Based upon?
I'm not trying to be difficult but in the first page of this thread everyone was hounding me for not immediately sharing the source and blasting me for not caring about harm reduction. Now apparently basic harm reduction based in reality is laughable because 'trust me bro I've never done it'.
I'll keep doing my own thing and filtering, I'm just confused at the shift in harm reduction mentality when it isn't convenient for you or you 'feel' a certain way.
AlexDavis43
Member
Hey that's fine, I think it's cool that people are learning a new skill (filtering).
Nonfiltered GH has been used successfully to treat kids with GHD for decades. Of more relevance in this context, bodybuilders too.
Works fine without filtering. It's not harm reduction when it's a far-fetched theoretical harm. It's just you doing an extra step.
StoopidGoat
New Member
Yes I agree. In terms or pharmaceutical/reputable source I wouldn't bother either. I'm talking about this messy chinese stuff, specifically SSA but likely extends to more. In such a situation, you're probably right in saying the risks of harm are incredibly low, I honestly don't know enough about peptides and biology to quantify the realistic harm that could occur from injecting the SSA cum HGH.
What I do know as a published analytical chemist (non-peptide related field) is that I use inline and frit filtration prior to my analyte being retained, as such, my reports (again, not peptide, or even biology, so may be wrong) provide post-filtration results. I am ASSUMING as this is industry typical that the results we get from testing follow this method to some degree. My point is, I just want to kmow I'm injecting what's listed in the test report, and not have Lee Xin from Hong Kongs cum globules floating in my vial and getting me pregnant.
Kaching
Member
Have ordered on kit to see
