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Close to 15 years ago I had the exact same surgery the guy, Mr.Redpill had. The first time I got it from pharma grade water based winstrol. Of course being young and dumb I let it go for 3-4 days , when it got to the point I could bend over to tie my own sneakers I said oooooppps infucked up . Went ER and after ultra sound was admitted into hospital for surgery the next day. The massive amount of tissue and size of the scar from it were nuts. But the pain was absolutely crazy. Orginally was given morphine and it wasnt touching me, then was given 15-20mg oxy ER but with the time release it wasn’t cutting it either,. So the final move was putting in a permanent “IV” lline, with a 4mg drip of dilduaid every hour if I clicked the button I was in pain. It’s the only thing that would work . Once home from my 3 day hospital stint I had a in-house nurse visit twice a day for 2 weeks before have a family member taught to pack what was left of the woud
And how to clean it out correctly
 
Hey Primal, I have an idea for you guys. As we all know, the issues in China are making things.. difficult. Many of us have been, and continue to, stock up on oils in hopes of riding out the shortages as best we can. It looks like things are going to get worse before they get better, and no projected improvement until at least after Christmas or later.

Here's my idea; market a line of products as prepper/doomsday/gearpocalypse vials. These would be made in a way that maximizes shelf life. What I've learned so far about extended shelf life to the max includes doing the following;

*Using stoppers coated in PTFE, Flurotec, Teflon, or other highly chemically resistant, minimally gas permeable materials and coatings. This ensures a good seal that lasts a long time, and isn't affected by the benzyl benzoate.

*Using a fully saturated carrier oil like MCT. Fully saturated oils' carbon chains have the maximum number of hydrogen atoms possible, and contain only single bonds between the carbon atoms. This helps prevent the oil from oxidizing, or going rancid. By comparison, GSO is more unsaturated than saturated by percentage, and does have a reduced shelf life because of this, all other variables being equal.

*Filling the vial as close to the top as possible, without having the oil make contact with the stopper. The less air present within the vial, the better. This is another way of minimizing oxidation, as the less oxygen present, the less oxidation can occur.

These are the factors that are known to me, many of which I learned here through reading and asking questions. There may be other things that can be done from a manufacturing/bottling standpoint that I don't know about, so those more knowledgeable please do share. Variables such as keeping vials stored upright, out of light, and in a consistent and controlled temperature environment are all the end users responsibility.

You'd obviously have to charge a premium for these vials. The cost for the coated stoppers is considerably more than plain buytl stoppers, and filling vials a bit more is also a small additional cost. Offering them in 10ml appeals to me personally, as I have vial cases that only accommodate 10 and 12ml vials, but from a more realistic and less selfish standpoint, it would make sense to offer these in larger sizes like 20ml or 30ml, and perhaps even larger. I know I'd be willing to pay a decent premium above typical pricing for something like this. I'm already planning to re-bottle a bunch of my stash using the above items and techniques, and it's going to be a bit of an arduous task considering my setup's limitations, and the number of vials I need to do. Personally, I'd be willing to pay a ~15 to 20% premium for this type of product. I might be a minority in this, and if so I understand it wouldn't make sense from a business standpoint. Anyone else interested in such a product?
 
AllGoodThings said:
Hey Primal, I have an idea for you guys. As we all know, the issues in China are making things.. difficult. Many of us have been, and continue to, stock up on oils in hopes of riding out the shortages as best we can. It looks like things are going to get worse before they get better, and no projected improvement until at least after Christmas or later.

Here's my idea; market a line of products as prepper/doomsday/gearpocalypse vials. These would be made in a way that maximizes shelf life. What I've learned so far about extended shelf life to the max includes doing the following;

*Using stoppers coated in PTFE, Flurotec, Teflon, or other highly chemically resistant, minimally gas permeable materials and coatings. This ensures a good seal that lasts a long time, and isn't affected by the benzyl benzoate.

*Using a fully saturated carrier oil like MCT. Fully saturated oils' carbon chains have the maximum number of hydrogen atoms possible, and contain only single bonds between the carbon atoms. This helps prevent the oil from oxidizing, or going rancid. By comparison, GSO is more unsaturated than saturated by percentage, and does have a reduced shelf life because of this, all other variables being equal.

*Filling the vial as close to the top as possible, without having the oil make contact with the stopper. The less air present within the vial, the better. This is another way of minimizing oxidation, as the less oxygen present, the less oxidation can occur.

These are the factors that are known to me, many of which I learned here through reading and asking questions. There may be other things that can be done from a manufacturing/bottling standpoint that I don't know about, so those more knowledgeable please do share. Variables such as keeping vials stored upright, out of light, and in a consistent and controlled temperature environment are all the end users responsibility.

You'd obviously have to charge a premium for these vials. The cost for the coated stoppers is considerably more than plain buytl stoppers, and filling vials a bit more is also a small additional cost. Offering them in 10ml appeals to me personally, as I have vial cases that only accommodate 10 and 12ml vials, but from a more realistic and less selfish standpoint, it would make sense to offer these in larger sizes like 20ml or 30ml, and perhaps even larger. I know I'd be willing to pay a decent premium above typical pricing for something like this. I'm already planning to re-bottle a bunch of my stash using the above items and techniques, and it's going to be a bit of an arduous task considering my setup's limitations, and the number of vials I need to do. Personally, I'd be willing to pay a ~15 to 20% premium for this type of product. I might be a minority in this, and if so I understand it wouldn't make sense from a business standpoint. Anyone else interested in such a product?
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Classic 2010's marketing move - make the packaging black, slap on some MOLLE, or put the word "tactical" in the branding, market to men, and charge double. They did this shit with everything: bacon, toothpaste and toothbrushes, beer, deodorant, m̶a̶n̶p̶u̶r̶s̶e̶s̶ backpacks, jeeps and trucks, hell even baby wipes (I see you motherfuckers out there using that one brand. Weirdos.)

I personally love @Primal_Pharma 's packaging. But I get the joke.
 
AllGoodThings said:
Hey Primal, I have an idea for you guys. As we all know, the issues in China are making things.. difficult. Many of us have been, and continue to, stock up on oils in hopes of riding out the shortages as best we can. It looks like things are going to get worse before they get better, and no projected improvement until at least after Christmas or later.

Here's my idea; market a line of products as prepper/doomsday/gearpocalypse vials. These would be made in a way that maximizes shelf life. What I've learned so far about extended shelf life to the max includes doing the following;

*Using stoppers coated in PTFE, Flurotec, Teflon, or other highly chemically resistant, minimally gas permeable materials and coatings. This ensures a good seal that lasts a long time, and isn't affected by the benzyl benzoate.

*Using a fully saturated carrier oil like MCT. Fully saturated oils' carbon chains have the maximum number of hydrogen atoms possible, and contain only single bonds between the carbon atoms. This helps prevent the oil from oxidizing, or going rancid. By comparison, GSO is more unsaturated than saturated by percentage, and does have a reduced shelf life because of this, all other variables being equal.

*Filling the vial as close to the top as possible, without having the oil make contact with the stopper. The less air present within the vial, the better. This is another way of minimizing oxidation, as the less oxygen present, the less oxidation can occur.

These are the factors that are known to me, many of which I learned here through reading and asking questions. There may be other things that can be done from a manufacturing/bottling standpoint that I don't know about, so those more knowledgeable please do share. Variables such as keeping vials stored upright, out of light, and in a consistent and controlled temperature environment are all the end users responsibility.

You'd obviously have to charge a premium for these vials. The cost for the coated stoppers is considerably more than plain buytl stoppers, and filling vials a bit more is also a small additional cost. Offering them in 10ml appeals to me personally, as I have vial cases that only accommodate 10 and 12ml vials, but from a more realistic and less selfish standpoint, it would make sense to offer these in larger sizes like 20ml or 30ml, and perhaps even larger. I know I'd be willing to pay a decent premium above typical pricing for something like this. I'm already planning to re-bottle a bunch of my stash using the above items and techniques, and it's going to be a bit of an arduous task considering my setup's limitations, and the number of vials I need to do. Personally, I'd be willing to pay a ~15 to 20% premium for this type of product. I might be a minority in this, and if so I understand it wouldn't make sense from a business standpoint. Anyone else interested in such a product?
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Fluorotec stoppers are going to be the best, but it's gonna be close to a dollar each stopper. The vials are going to be the expensive ones, presumably 50ml/100ml ALK vials since the goal is long term storage.

Question is..how would you know if it's actually sterile, with actual Fluorotec stoppers and ALK vials? At least if you self filter with UltraSpec sterile vials you purchased from MedLabSupply, you know you have legit PTFE/TEFLON coated rubber stoppers with a real USP rated vial. The ALK sterile vials use normal rubber stoppers so let's not talk about those.

(it almost sounds as if we are talking about harsh chemicals which dissolve everything lol)
 
Second order placed 7/31/25 landed today! Excellent customer service, communication, and packaged discretely and very secure. Can’t recommend enough!
 
Another successful touchdown. This is #3. Communication, shipping, all great.

Customer service is top notch. Thanks again, Primal.
 
DraxTheDestroyer said:
Two pins in and NO PIP on test cyp250!! Love it!!
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So after a few of days pinning Primal Cyp250, there is definitely PIP after all :/ ..a delayed onset for sure, but it does come on. :/ It ain’t crushing like Prop, but it definitely smarts 24-48hours post injection. I bet the 200mg/ml Cyp would have been a lot better and painless …had to go and get greedy and splurge for the 250mg!!

Anyways, just my honest opinion. If I order more Cyp from @Primal_Pharma it will most definitely be the 200mg/ml..

That said, the HGH is excellent!
 
PIP from Test 250? I've been out of the game for almost 2 decades but is that common at that concentration. I remember messing about with T400 in my 20's. Horrible. I also remember anything over 100 Prop was awful. I'm always hesitant to try a new Primo 200, but there are some out there that are smooth as butter.
 
mr.redpill said:
Yeah no it was definitely just the perfect storm. 3ml syringe with 25g 1in pin to draw, swap for 27g 0.5in to inj. Always alc swab ass cheek and surface of rubber stopper before inj. But being that this was a new vial I cracked open, I didn't swab the stopper.

I think the culprit honeslty was the shallow pin and thicker gear...I've always had pretty lean glutes, so 0.5in have always worked great for me. But as of recently I've added some body fat.

Appreciate it. If I post the photos it'll be in a seperate thread, I don't think primal would
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DraxTheDestroyer said:
So after a few of days pinning Primal Cyp250, there is definitely PIP after all :/ ..a delayed onset for sure, but it does come on. :/ It ain’t crushing like Prop, but it definitely smarts 24-48hours post injection. I bet the 200mg/ml Cyp would have been a lot better and painless …had to go and get greedy and splurge for the 250mg!!

Anyways, just my honest opinion. If I order more Cyp from @Primal_Pharma it will most definitely be the 200mg/ml..

That said, the HGH is excellent!
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How much did you pin at once? Not thrilled at hearing this….ordered 250 have yet to use

I learned my lesson to stay at 1ml with axles enathate 250 anymore was a no go swelling and pain for days
 
DraxTheDestroyer said:
So after a few of days pinning Primal Cyp250, there is definitely PIP after all :/ ..a delayed onset for sure, but it does come on. :/ It ain’t crushing like Prop, but it definitely smarts 24-48hours post injection. I bet the 200mg/ml Cyp would have been a lot better and painless …had to go and get greedy and splurge for the 250mg!!

Anyways, just my honest opinion. If I order more Cyp from @Primal_Pharma it will most definitely be the 200mg/ml..

That said, the HGH is excellent!
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Is this MCT or GSO?
 
Gatman said:
How much did you pin at once? Not thrilled at hearing this….ordered 250 have yet to use

I learned my lesson to stay at 1ml with axles enathate 250 anymore was a no go swelling and pain for days
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I pin 250mg ed. After a few days is when it really started to get a little sore (yes I rotate sites lol)… i am very pip prone though. I bet you’re not nearly as bad of a puss as I am lol
 
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