Craziest 5 week Recomp Heavy Oral Cycle I’ve Ever Done! 5-6 Orals at Once?

[dougcentral]

Hi All. I’m new to this forum and wanted to share this experience. I’ve been doing a Test, Tren and Masteron cycle but for the last 5 weeks, I wanted to share the insane amount of orals I’ve added in. I’ve been cycling for over 10 years. I’m a powerlifter and have some national records in the WPC Canada in both 181 and 242 weight class.

Here are the injectable’s the last weeks of the cycle:

400 Test, 500 Masteron, 300 Tren E, 350 Tren A

This is where it gets crazy. Weeks 1-2 of these last 5 weeks are as follows:

Anadrol 50/day
Halo 20/day
Winstrol 75/day
Superdrol 35/day
Oral Methyltrienolone 1mg/day
Anavar 80-100/day

Week 3 I’m taking a break from all orals and upping the Tren A from 350 to 750 and then the Tren A will be finished for the last 2 weeks, so only 300 Tren E the last 2 weeks.

Weeks 4-5 for orals are as follows:

Winstrol 75/day
Superdrol 20/day
M-1-T 40/day
Epistane 80/day
Injectable Methyltrienolone 4mg/day

For cycle support I’m running Methylene Blue, TUDCA (also has milk thistle, dandelion root, ashwaganda and a bunch of other supps within capsules), NAC, Vitamin D3 and P5P.

I’m half way through week 2 of this 5 week stint. Only side effects I’m experiencing are insomnia, mild heart burn and some tiredness on and off throughout the day but nothing I haven’t felt before from even one oral. This was a 12 week cycle where I ran 2-3 orals every other week throughout but decided to really push things these last 5. The cycle started off as a major cutting cycle and I dropped down from 245 to 205, but the last 2 weeks had been more of a lean bulk/recomp. I haven’t lost any strength throughout this cut and now that I’m back to eating in a surplus with the increased androgen load, my strength and gym performance is exploding. Will keep you guys updated. Btw my best bench press is 485 lbs and best deadlift is 700 lbs.

 

[eery]

damn,at first glance, thats dumb and retarded. I dont have much else to say.

 

[RockyP]

Speechless. Wouldn't run this if my career / future income stream depended on it. But welcome aboard!

 

[dougcentral]

I would tend to agree. For most people this would put them in the hospital. I myself love to experiment and bloodwork has shown through the years how resilient I am to methylated orals. Some people get jaundice off a 4 week dbol cycle. Other guys can run orals for 5 months straight and have slight elevated enzyme only. This is NOT recommended to anyone !!! Please do not copy this ! I’m highly experienced and know what my body can and can’t handle. Will be getting blood work done after this to see where I’m at. I wouldn’t recommend anyone run more than 1-2 orals at a time.

 

[DinoBB76]

I would tend to agree. For most people this would put them in the hospital. I myself love to experiment and bloodwork has shown through the years how resilient I am to methylated orals. Some people get jaundice off a 4 week dbol cycle. Other guys can run orals for 5 months straight and have slight elevated enzyme only. This is NOT recommended to anyone !!! Please do not copy this ! I’m highly experienced and know what my body can and can’t handle. Will be getting blood work done after this to see where I’m at. I wouldn’t recommend anyone run more than 1-2 orals at a time.

Yes, for sure. I met two athletes who said the same thing.

After a year of Anadrol + Winstrol, his blood counts were good. Too bad that after an MRI, he had a liver tumor the size of a lemon. Be careful, kid.

If you play, you pay in the end.

 

[RockyP]

I would tend to agree. For most people this would put them in the hospital. I myself love to experiment and bloodwork has shown through the years how resilient I am to methylated orals. Some people get jaundice off a 4 week dbol cycle. Other guys can run orals for 5 months straight and have slight elevated enzyme only. This is NOT recommended to anyone !!! Please do not copy this ! I’m highly experienced and know what my body can and can’t handle. Will be getting blood work done after this to see where I’m at. I wouldn’t recommend anyone run more than 1-2 orals at a time.

What dose of NaC did you run? Any glutathione?

 

[TestMonkey]

Great to see another powerlifting(ish) log on here, solid numbers too! Definitely following!

Since it seems you have a bit of experience in running a lot of different and exotic shit, so I've got some questions for you if you don't mind for my own prep.

Orals make me strong as shit fast, but it seems the gains slow down a bit after a week or 2 until you increase the dose. However the strength stays for a bit when you come off.
So what's your thoughts on pulsing the orals to minimise exposure but maximise strength, so 2w on 2w off or 4w/4w in a prep setting. I know Dan Bell talked about pulsing 11 or 19 days on and then that same amount off into a meet. Do you get that extra kick when you reintroduce that oral?
Also what is the rational behind stacking the orals for strength? Does it give a straight additive effect like upping the dose would?

Obviously orals are king for strength but what injectables do you feel help with strength? Some swear by tren but my sleep goes to shit beyond 175mg/w so I doubt that's enough to see good strength gains on it, or just don't be a pussy run 350+ and get strong af? DHB just makes me vascular and hurt (pip). Just more test? Or test/mast?

 

[wp_375]

Pete Grymkowski approved!

Allegedly Pete would take over 100 5mg Dbol tablets a day for extended periods with no ill effects. He's 79 years old now and still kicking so maybe there's hope for you

 

[Oswizzle]

M1T with any of those orals is wild bro … I’d get on a liver transplant list asap .. even get a quote on a new one from China since the waiting list is gnarly here stateside bruh

 

[BigDadd7]

Pete Grymkowski approved!

Allegedly Pete would take over 100 5mg Dbol tablets a day for extended periods with no ill effects. He's 79 years old now and still kicking so maybe there's hope for you

People are just believing anything now days?

 

[Deezznutzz]

Dumb. Gonna need a liver transplant one day.

 

[wp_375]

People are just believing anything now days?

Bro I don't know about you but I grew up with a bunch of morons around. I totally can believe a dude in the 70's who knew fuck all about steroids other than "more is better" took 5 or 10 times a normal dosage and lived to tell about it. The short term safety margin of steroids is pretty high, you can get away with some truly wild shit as long as you don't do it for years on end or are just lucky. And some people are just genetically unkillable and ordained to live to 100 regardless of smoking 5 packs a day and drinking every day. Or running a shitload of gear.

It's a free country, if you wanna run a bunch of orals well.. it ain't hurting anyone but you.

 

[Bandern]

Rock on brother (I’m not an organ donor)

 

[rockyraccoon]

@dougcentral Damn bro. You running any inj glutathione? Godspeed.

 

[dougcentral]

Yes, for sure. I met two athletes who said the same thing.

After a year of Anadrol + Winstrol, his blood counts were good. Too bad that after an MRI, he had a liver tumor the size of a lemon. Be careful, kid.

If you play, you pay in the end.

Yikes man. A year straight ?!?! Even I wouldn’t think of doing that. That’s insane.

 

[dougcentral]

@dougcentral Damn bro. You running any inj glutathione? Godspeed.

I’m running 2400 mg of NAC, which helps the body produce a lot more glutathione. NAC is powerful stuff but you need to take way more than the recommended dose if you’re taking it orally. Got is cheap as dirt on bulk supplements dot com. Injectable glutathione would be ideal but I have no source for it. Much better bioavailability.

 

[dougcentral]

What dose of NaC did you run? Any glutathione?

2400 mg of NAC. No glutathione, but NAC at that dose does significantly raise glutathione. I’d love to find some injectable glutathione!

 

[dougcentral]

Great to see another powerlifting(ish) log on here, solid numbers too! Definitely following!

Since it seems you have a bit of experience in running a lot of different and exotic shit, so I've got some questions for you if you don't mind for my own prep.

Orals make me strong as shit fast, but it seems the gains slow down a bit after a week or 2 until you increase the dose. However the strength stays for a bit when you come off.
So what's your thoughts on pulsing the orals to minimise exposure but maximise strength, so 2w on 2w off or 4w/4w in a prep setting. I know Dan Bell talked about pulsing 11 or 19 days on and then that same amount off into a meet. Do you get that extra kick when you reintroduce that oral?
Also what is the rational behind stacking the orals for strength? Does it give a straight additive effect like upping the dose would?

Obviously orals are king for strength but what injectables do you feel help with strength? Some swear by tren but my sleep goes to shit beyond 175mg/w so I doubt that's enough to see good strength gains on it, or just don't be a pussy run 350+ and get strong af? DHB just makes me vascular and hurt (pip). Just more test? Or test/mast?

Pulsing orals is the best way because if you run them straight through a prep, you’re asking for trouble. What I’m doing now is simply an experiment because of all the orals I had left over from a powerlifting meet I pulled out of awhile back. Normally I’d run either 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or maybe start a prep with 4 weeks of 1-2 orals and then 2-3 weeks out from the meet, start the orals again. One week on, one week off this cutting cycle treated me well. I’ve had horrible lethargy and appetite suppression when running orals for more than 3 weeks at a time. Im liking the every other week method currently. I do find orals are far better for strength than almost any injection, with Tren being the huge exception. Tren does affect my sleep some, but I already have had insomnia for the last 17 years straight. I’ve been tested for sleep apnea and it’s low to mild and using the machine for 2 months straight made my sleep much worse and I was even more tired. Over time your body does adapt and you learn better sleeping strategies, but if Tren affects your recovery, toss it. I find I see strength benefits even as low as 1-200 mg of Tren E. The huge boost comes from 4-600 though for me but I wouldn’t recommend pushing that high until you’re at least 3-4 weeks out if not 2 weeks out. Tren Ace works FAST and it’s powerful. The exotic compounds like MTren or cheque drops I’d usually only do on training days and let anadrol or dbol do there thing the final weeks. Superdrol and M1T are also fantastic for size and strength and as good as anadrol or dbol but more toxic so maybe save for the final 2-3 week before a meet.

 

[dougcentral]

Pete Grymkowski approved!

Allegedly Pete would take over 100 5mg Dbol tablets a day for extended periods with no ill effects. He's 79 years old now and still kicking so maybe there's hope for you

Not sure if this is true but some people just have resilient genes when it comes to this shit man. My great grandfather lived to be 96 years old and he was drunk every day and smoked a pack of cigarettes every day until he was 65 years old. I’m not saying I’m invincible, but I push things for a few weeks once and awhile for fun. I’ve seen guys run M1T for 2 years straight. The reason a lot of those compounds are claimed to be extra toxic is cause kids would take them like candy for months on end and it would fuck them up. Most oral toxicity is highly exaggerated in my opinion. We have studies showing people on 100 mg of anadrol for months. Doesn’t mean it’s not toxic af, but I think people forget this. I’ve run dbol longer for weeks and had no issues.

 

[JeffroCat]

@LSDPowerlifting, is that you?