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Dr Todd Lee - what do you think?

On a positive note ....are there tried and true trusted people like Dante Trudell etc that you guys have found to be more on the money?

I'm keen to get a few names to research.
 
Irish28 said:
On a positive note ....are there tried and true trusted people like Dante Trudell etc that you guys have found to be more on the money?

I'm keen to get a few names to research.
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I was like you sometime ago, was looking to learn from "trusted" educators and heard lots and lots of podcasts. Everytime i came across a new one for me i thought well, he seems legit and he says interesting things.

It didn't take long to understand that most of them are just saying bs. The majority of them speaks in absolutes (which is a huge no regarding ped use). Eventually you learn to filter the good from crap but honestly all that time you spend to listen, 80% is a waste and 20% valuable.

I learnt way more things from this board and the PM since i cam relate to many other average users like i am, hearing anecdotal reports from many have a bigger value than hearing a lot of different and fancy stuff coming out from one person.

For example, if you follow vigorous he says "i can feel 10mg anavar" and "i took 25mg tren a week and mutated" and then you think that's how things are supposed to go when i do it myself, and then you get disappointed or you think your gear is bunk lol.

The only thing i would suggest to watch these days is "think big bodybuilding" and the new podcast with Andrew Berry and Kyle Wilks.

Other than that, just stick to the board read logs, bloodworks, cycles etc. You'll learn much more.
 
Eddie. said:
I was like you sometime ago, was looking to learn from "trusted" educators and heard lots and lots of podcasts. Everytime i came across a new one for me i thought well, he seems legit and he says interesting things.

It didn't take long to understand that most of them are just saying bs. The majority of them speaks in absolutes (which is a huge no regarding ped use). Eventually you learn to filter the good from crap but honestly all that time you spend to listen, 80% is a waste and 20% valuable.

I learnt way more things from this board and the PM since i cam relate to many other average users like i am, hearing anecdotal reports from many have a bigger value than hearing a lot of different and fancy stuff coming out from one person.

For example, if you follow vigorous he says "i can feel 10mg anavar" and "i took 25mg tren a week and mutated" and then you think that's how things are supposed to go when i do it myself, and then you get disappointed or you think your gear is bunk lol.

The only thing i would suggest to watch these days is "think big bodybuilding" and the new podcast with Andrew Berry and Kyle Wilks.

Other than that, just stick to the board read logs, bloodworks, cycles etc. You'll learn much more.
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drugs & stuff is fun to listen to. for sure dave got A LOT of experiences...
 
Eddie. said:
I was like you sometime ago, was looking to learn from "trusted" educators and heard lots and lots of podcasts. Everytime i came across a new one for me i thought well, he seems legit and he says interesting things.

It didn't take long to understand that most of them are just saying bs. The majority of them speaks in absolutes (which is a huge no regarding ped use). Eventually you learn to filter the good from crap but honestly all that time you spend to listen, 80% is a waste and 20% valuable.

I learnt way more things from this board and the PM since i cam relate to many other average users like i am, hearing anecdotal reports from many have a bigger value than hearing a lot of different and fancy stuff coming out from one person.

For example, if you follow vigorous he says "i can feel 10mg anavar" and "i took 25mg tren a week and mutated" and then you think that's how things are supposed to go when i do it myself, and then you get disappointed or you think your gear is bunk lol.

The only thing i would suggest to watch these days is "think big bodybuilding" and the new podcast with Andrew Berry and Kyle Wilks.

Other than that, just stick to the board read logs, bloodworks, cycles etc. You'll learn much more.
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I like Andrew and Kyle's content also. They're pretty transparent about how everyone is different and that coaches really need to spend a lot of time getting to know their athletes' bodies and how they respond to things.

And I agree 100% that, as much as I reference their "reported" usage, following what professional athletes are doing (who have genetics several standard deviations to the right of the mean) is not always (sometimes never) helpful. Recently Derek Henry got some press for changing his diet to intermittent fasting with very low carbs. I have no idea how on earth that is benefiting him given all the anaerobic work he needs to do, and I feel confident that this would backfire for most people who tried it. But he is an absolute freak of nature, and I'm sure eating Snickers bars would work for him also. There was a pro bodybuilder from the islands whose name escapes me, trained at Bev's in Long Island. Went pro as a superheavy eating his cultural diet of mostly rice and lentils.

I think that starting with a hard ceiling of "this is probably stupid / dangerous and so I should not do THIS" is helpful, and then after that, it's just trial and error. What comes to mind for me is the primo as an AI thing. Everyone recommends starting with primo at 25 to 50% of your test dosage. I did that and got puffy nips. I had to go 1:1 and even a little higher to get the E2 i wanted. I still benefited from the primo, but the lore about it being a super duper strong AI did not apply to me. The only way I could have figured that out was trial and error with testing. I haven't run tren in a while, but when I did run it in my 20's I did the usual 100 mg eod of tren ace. Zero unwanted side effects. I now run lower daily dosing in the spirit of lowest effective dose, but for my body, I was taking "more" than the current pro's advise (140 - 300 mg weekly) and did just fine with it (though likely could have used less and got same / similar results).

This board is a wealth of information. Very happy to have found it. And I very much appreciate that (for the most part) the harm reduction theme permeates throughout.
 
The biggest problem I have is getting estrogen right. Never used to bother me. It’s such a pain in my ass. I’m going to have to eventually do serial bloods to figure it out. When I was younger I could just take whatever the fuck and none of it really bothered me. Felt good regardless. Now primo nukes me and the pip. Masteron I can’t stand the depleted look it gives me. And to much test and high estro is hell. Idk what’s worse being way too high. Or way too low lmao. Both fucking hell lmao. I swear after watching a lot of these guys my problems just got worse and I over think things more lmao. Younger test tren and mast see you in 8 weeks looking like a mutant. Serial bloods and your own custom protocol is the only way to get big and “feel” good
 
RockyP said:
Correct. And If you google him you won't find an NPI number. He likes listing his credentials but I have not ever seen any documentation of an internship or residency, meaning that he might not even have a medical license (obtained after 1 year of residency / internship after passing the final part of the National Board Exam). I do not think he is board certified in anything. I've spoken with people who have retained him for services and he has not ever prescribed anything, but instead sends people through his website for labs (which are ordered by someone else) and while he will interpret them, I don't think he is actually practicing medicine in any shape or form. His main talent is speaking authoritatively to an audience who knows less than he does. If you've ever taken a course in organic chemistry or biochemistry and listen to him you will see that he is lost at sea.

IMO some of the best opinions on this matter are Dante Trudel, Jordan Peters, Stan Efferding, and many others. Not Todd Lee.
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he also doesnt show up on docinfo.org, a site in which ALL medical doctors who actively practice medicine show up on.
 
Irish28 said:
Do you have a link?

I did watcha. Video with him and Dr Mike Isratel......about half way thru the interview Dr Mike Totally tuned out.....started giving one word answers....it was staggering to see and I've no idea why....Dr Mike is incredibly charismatix
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While I am no fan of Todd Lee, "Dr." Mike is waaaaay worse.

Todd surely has his flaws, speaks in absolutes, proves himself wrong all the time, and is a socially awkward guy, showing quite a few signs of being autistic.
But I will bet the farm and my summer house on Mike having a, maybe even severe case, of a narcissistic personality disorder. This guy is just insufferable for anyone with a working brain, and being able to spot such personalities. This is not an act, he puts on for social media, it is consistent across many years.
 
He comes from good intentions, more than likely, but anyone serious about competing in bodybuilding isnt gonna use cycle something like 575 test and 1400 masteron a week. Paul K Barnett is much better source of information imo.
 
Mick said:
Damn I didn’t no arimidex lowers igf1. I’m currently using .25mg every 3rd day. On 400mg test. What is the equivalent of aromasin, 12.5? I’m on 4iu hgh, I guess the arimidex is making that kind of a waste smh
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It doesn't, obviously if you crush your estrogen you will have a lot less IGF-1, but if its in range (arguably slightly above reference range is slightly better) then you are fine, control your estrogen please don't listen to the guys fearmongering AI use, I tried that shit (not using AIs because they are "bad" for you) and it just fucked me over
 
While on an only test cycle I added some mast, and experimented with low test high mast like he advocates, and progress slowed down considerably. While doing only high test I was increasing a couple reps or 5lbs on my main lifts every week. Soon as I lowered the test and replaced and even went higher on dosages with mast I stopped making weekly progress. Swapped back to high test and low mast while keeping the mg equal and started making progress again. Mast is not very anabolic for most people it seems. Nice thing is that I did not need aromasin while taking mast. For most ppl test is just best.
 
Eddie. said:
I was like you sometime ago, was looking to learn from "trusted" educators and heard lots and lots of podcasts. Everytime i came across a new one for me i thought well, he seems legit and he says interesting things.

It didn't take long to understand that most of them are just saying bs. The majority of them speaks in absolutes (which is a huge no regarding ped use). Eventually you learn to filter the good from crap but honestly all that time you spend to listen, 80% is a waste and 20% valuable.

I learnt way more things from this board and the PM since i cam relate to many other average users like i am, hearing anecdotal reports from many have a bigger value than hearing a lot of different and fancy stuff coming out from one person.

For example, if you follow vigorous he says "i can feel 10mg anavar" and "i took 25mg tren a week and mutated" and then you think that's how things are supposed to go when i do it myself, and then you get disappointed or you think your gear is bunk lol.

The only thing i would suggest to watch these days is "think big bodybuilding" and the new podcast with Andrew Berry and Kyle Wilks.

Other than that, just stick to the board read logs, bloodworks, cycles etc. You'll learn much more.
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Thinkbig and j3 university my goats
 
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