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Safe to assume this isn’t high concentration issues considering these vials are cyp 200 and 50. What’s your batch numbers on these? Wonder if it correlates to the DHB batching timeline. One stopper is a one off and can be attributed to user handling but multiple vials from different users something more perhaps? Is there really anyway to determine cause or are there too many factors based on region, shipping, altitude of lab etc…? I mean in almost two decades of AAS purchasing I’ve never seen it. Not accusing of malpractice just generally curious. What’s the significance or is it nothing of concern? Lots of experience in here have others seen this before?
Simply swelling and degradation through solvent contact.

Easy to see. I have test, deca and tren open. Every time you flip the vial to draw, solvents make contact with the stopper.

I use test the most, and that stopper is swelling the most. Tren is used the least, and that is least swollen. Deca is in between for use and swelling.

BA/BB will also play a factor.
 
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switched over to a fresh vial of @Primal_Pharma Test Cyp since last week, smooth pins so far and no pip even with sub-q.

Feels test checks out but I’ll get labs done in a few weeks to compare numbers. Suddenly craving bananas and wiping my shit stains with my hands
 
switched over to a fresh vial of @Primal_Pharma Test Cyp since last week, smooth pins so far and no pip even with sub-q.

Feels test checks out but I’ll get labs done in a few weeks to compare numbers. Suddenly craving bananas and wiping my shit stains with my hands
“Feels” check out in 7 days? Do we just post stupid shit to post stupid shit? Hopefully you washed your hands.


We have swelling, and likely leeching stoppers. And this is what we choose to contribute. Wiping shit on your hands…..everything is a joke.
 
The stoppers are nice. Thick and tough material. Slightly concaved shape

They don’t give much info on the company website. Only mention of material is on the vial. It says natural rubber latex has not been used in the manufacture of the vial.

I’ll send an email asking if they are ptfe but if it’s not on a a spec sheet I’ll probably get a generic answer.

I got these from mountainside for $27 per pack of 10.

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I have limited experience with this, but those look a lot like West Flurotec stoppers to me. The surface texture and relatively deep concave face are what makes me think so.
 
“Feels” check out in 7 days? Do we just post stupid shit to post stupid shit? Hopefully you washed your hands.


We have swelling, and likely leeching stoppers. And this is what we choose to contribute. Wiping shit on your hands…..everything is a joke.
I feel no different from switching between vendors test is all I’m saying. Not gonna even bother responding to everything else I don’t care for internet drama i’m here for good vibes and to get big brother
 
Simply swelling and degradation through solvent contact.

Easy to see. I have test, deca and tren open. Every time you flip the vial to draw, solvents make contact with the stopper.

I use test the most, and that stopper is swelling the most. Tren is used the least, and that is least swollen. Deca is in between for use and swelling.

BA/BB will also play a factor.
Serious question. This isn't the first vendor to use these stoppers. Why are his swelling and not everyone else's? So far, I've only seen one swollen stopper posted. Did I miss others?

I store all my vials upright in a case. I realize they rolled around on their side in the mail. Of the four vials I currently have open, none of them are swelling. It seems like if just flipping them over to draw were enough to cause swelling, then transport would destroy them for sure. Yet, not a single one is swelling. I'm trying to make sense of it.
 
Serious question. This isn't the first vendor to use these stoppers. Why are his swelling and not everyone else's? So far, I've only seen one swollen stopper posted. Did I miss others?

I store all my vials upright in a case. I realize they rolled around on their side in the mail. Of the four vials I currently have open, none of them are swelling. It seems like if just flipping them over to draw were enough to cause swelling, then transport would destroy them for sure. Yet, not a single one is swelling. I'm trying to make sense of it.
I don’t think anyone would be able to make sense of it.

Could be inconsistent manufacturing. No one knows which brand primal uses, if use has been consistent, etc.

I’ve had it happen to a few randoms over the years. 1-2 gotten so swollen that they’d leak, and I’d just throw the vials out.

This is why some people make a big deal over stopper, especially if stored for years. Which many are doing now.
 
Serious question. This isn't the first vendor to use these stoppers. Why are his swelling and not everyone else's? So far, I've only seen one swollen stopper posted. Did I miss others?

I store all my vials upright in a case. I realize they rolled around on their side in the mail. Of the four vials I currently have open, none of them are swelling. It seems like if just flipping them over to draw were enough to cause swelling, then transport would destroy them for sure. Yet, not a single one is swelling. I'm trying to make sense of it.
All good points. I wonder why it’s only isolated to a few cases.

I have quite a bit of gear from various sources and I’ve not had a stopper problem yet. Some are obviously better than others but none have swelled.
 
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