sp5der
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No not possible. I didn’t attempt to make the tne yet. I’m making it later today
The only two things I’ve made this year was 20mg/ml test c and 250mg/ml test c which tested slightly low but still fine
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The only two things I’ve made this year was 20mg/ml test c and 250mg/ml test c which tested slightly low but still fine
Photon
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Really odd..
40mL BA
400mL BB
42g of 96% test c raw
This will get you 84mg/ml
aka no oil, all ba/bb
If the retest is still ~84mg/ml, ask for a BA/BB test (30$)
sp5der
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Ok I’ll do that. What would BB/BA test accomplish? I’m unaware of what it achieves ?
Trust me when I say I did not forget oil in this
Photon
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If it shows 100% BA+BB then there's no oil..but if you're sure then i guess theres no point in wasting 30$..
sp5der
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Well I’m more than sure. The 84 has to be a coincidence. I have 1700mL of it sitting in a beaker still. I didn’t try to make 2L and end up with 450mL because I forgot oil this has to be something way bigger that’s wrong
AllGoodThings
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I tried a GB once in one of those pep mom groups. First and last time. I paid the exact amount I owed, and she told me I was short like $20-something dollars. I was pretty confused, but figured out it was because bitcoins price had gone down some in the ~30 minutes since the transaction was sent
I guess she dealt mostly with stable coins. I didn't feel like arguing with her, and just sent more btc.
Then, what felt like a couple month later when she finally sent the order to me, she cheaped out and went with Ground Advantage instead of Priority Mail, so it took 11 days to get to me from the West coast.
Anyhow, they were testing nearly everything in the GB's, and using Janoshik for the testing. God only knows how many groups like that exist, all sending their peps in to Jano. Probably not an insignificant volume of work for them.
AllGoodThings
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Isn't there a Stanford educated, Gold medal winning chemist that joined here recently? Maybe he's looking for work
ETliens
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I got your email when I woke up. Unfortunately my wife got the vials two weeks ago. I really hope this is an error.
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sp5der
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I greatly appreciate that. And thank you for working when I know it’s your weekend/out of office.
There has to be something wrong with my sample in this case. I’m going to be placing a new order and sending you a new one.
Turkeybuilder
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that and all people who received their vials need to send in a sample too.
I think this is why its important to wait for results before sending out vials to people
You’re a good brewer and a good guy nobody is going to hold this against you and you wont lose any customers from this, infact it makes me want to order from you even more, seeing how much you care
But this is just a lesson learned to never sell untested vials
sp5der
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I dont know what the cause could be.
As it’s not a testing error, it must be with the sample.
I posted my measurements.
It was mixed on heat for an hour.
I put 42 grams in to 2000mL of oil bb and ba.
There’s no way that gets overdosed 400%
As it’s not a testing error, it must be with the sample.
I posted my measurements.
It was mixed on heat for an hour.
I put 42 grams in to 2000mL of oil bb and ba.
There’s no way that gets overdosed 400%
ETliens
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I’m certainly no brewer but could the raw testing be off?
sp5der
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It was brewed as 96% pure.
For example: 40 grams of 100% pure raws would net 20mg/ml in a 2000mL solution.
I accounted for impurity and used 42 grams of 96% raws which should net 20mg/ml in a 2000mL solution.
The raws would need to be over 400% pure for this to happen that way. If that makes sense. Basically 1 gram of test c raw would have to have 4 pure grams of test c raw in it (impossible)
sp5der
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So that test report implies 100% of the raws used , were in the top 20% of the beaker.
Which is impossible.
Because they started at the bottom and I watched them float around until they dissolved.
Anyways I’ll of course pay all cost and reimburse for the blind test from the few customers that have it.
And we will find a resolution.
If the blind tests come back bad, just let me know what you want and I’ll make it happen. Full refund at minimum no questions.
There’s no way customer tests come back bad though. It’s just not possible. It has to be a sample issue. Only thing I can think of.
Believe me when I say I did not mistakenly use 180 grams when the recipe called for 40 grams.
It’s good we have a blind testing otw already
Which is impossible.
Because they started at the bottom and I watched them float around until they dissolved.
Anyways I’ll of course pay all cost and reimburse for the blind test from the few customers that have it.
And we will find a resolution.
If the blind tests come back bad, just let me know what you want and I’ll make it happen. Full refund at minimum no questions.
There’s no way customer tests come back bad though. It’s just not possible. It has to be a sample issue. Only thing I can think of.
Believe me when I say I did not mistakenly use 180 grams when the recipe called for 40 grams.
It’s good we have a blind testing otw already
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No problem, I did it for vigilance.
Ensure homogeneity of the sample beforehand and inspect for crystals is all I can think of.
Cheers
crispybacon!
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Might be a fluke, but it’s a solid reason not to sell your finished product before testing is in.
Will be interesting to see how the retest and customer testing comes out.
Imagine you pulled the sample for Jano before adding in the oil without realizing you took it before adding oil.
This makes the most sense tbh. If customers vials and your resend are 20mg then this has to be what happened.
I get why you’re concerned. All your previous tests were almost surgically perfect, and then this one comes back with a huge spread where 20 mg turns into 84 mg. I was honestly surprised too when I saw it.
What I find interesting is how we rarely consider that Jano could make a mistake, while any variance is automatically blamed on the brewer. For the sake of your own peace of mind, it might be worth sending it to another lab or two just to see whether this was a lab error or a real miss. Worst case you lose a bit of money, best case you gain clarity and sleep better at night.
Also worth saying, the community is actually very supportive of you right now. Most vendors would’ve been dragged hard for a discrepancy like this, even if the gap was much smaller. The fact that people are still giving you the benefit of the doubt says a lot about the reputation you’ve built so far.
What I find interesting is how we rarely consider that Jano could make a mistake, while any variance is automatically blamed on the brewer. For the sake of your own peace of mind, it might be worth sending it to another lab or two just to see whether this was a lab error or a real miss. Worst case you lose a bit of money, best case you gain clarity and sleep better at night.
Also worth saying, the community is actually very supportive of you right now. Most vendors would’ve been dragged hard for a discrepancy like this, even if the gap was much smaller. The fact that people are still giving you the benefit of the doubt says a lot about the reputation you’ve built so far.
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