Guangzhou Gemini Biotech Co., Ltd.(USA, International)

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US Domestic order placed on 2/11, delivered 2/16. Everything was there.

I usually use WWB but they are currently on some shit about a 2 bottle limit on orals which for $50 shipping isn't worth it. GGB has the same stuff with a 5 bottle limit, so GGB it is. Good communication from their main number on Whatsapp.

 

[Angryshitter]

Does GGB have EO in their oils? specifically in their TEST products?

 

[oldage]

Yes, same exact products as WWB

 

[Angryshitter]

Yes, same exact products as WWB

damn that sucks. people really inject that?

 

[CastleSF]

Does GGB have EO in their oils? specifically in their TEST products?

I am not allergic to EO and have pinned myself multiple times fine but I understand it may not be agreeable to some people's system.

 

[Jron]

damn that sucks. people really inject that?

Yup I don't filter either. Running primo from GGB with no issues.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yup I don't filter either. Running primo from GGB with no issues.

damn that sucks. people really inject that?

yeah, people (myself included) have been injecting it for years/decades

recent fear mongering about scary China oil boogeyman by the bubble boy brigade got a little out of hand

 

[Angryshitter]

yeah, people (myself included) have been injecting it for years/decades

recent fear mongering about scary China oil boogeyman by the bubble boy brigade got a little out of hand

oh shit so its not actually that bad? just asking because im new to oils, so im fresh meat when it comes to this,

 

[dick_starbuck]

yeah, people (myself included) have been injecting it for years/decades

recent fear mongering about scary China oil boogeyman by the bubble boy brigade got a little out of hand

I get what youre saying, because im often just as critical to the typical bubble boy stuff.

However ive just seen with my own eyes too much stuff in the bulk hepius vials to not filter it. Especially the latest EQ and NPP batches that looked like swamp water. Eyelashes, hair... unknown particulates.

 

[AlexDavis43]

oh shit so its not actually that bad? just asking because im new to oils, so im fresh meat when it comes to this,

You're gonna get a spectrum of opinions

Mine is: no, it's not that bad

Of course if you see floaters in any gear, regardless if it's US or China, filter it, but if you see people saying they got floaters in every vial of China gear, they're exaggerating or lying to make a fuss

I think it's a money thing: if you spend more on US gear, you don't want other people to think you got ripped off, so you preach China gear is contaminated to save face

also, I don't really care, you want US gear and want to believe it is superior in some way other than T/A? go for it

 

[dallascowboys01]

I know the npp and tren i got from china looked pretty rough, I filtered it and used it, I am still alive but could see the difference in the stuff that I got from a US supplier here on the forums.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I get what youre saying, because im often just as critical to the typical bubble boy stuff.

However ive just seen with my own eyes too much stuff in the bulk hepius vials to not filter it. Especially the latest EQ and NPP batches that looked like swamp water. Eyelashes, hair... unknown particulates.

Imo

Obvious floaters but otherwise clear: filter

Swamp water: definitely filter and if it doesn't come out crystal clear, bin it (and now I guess we have to video the whole process soup-to-nuts if you want to approach the vendor for a refund)

 

[SpaceForce]

Imo

Obvious floaters but otherwise clear: filter

Swamp water: definitely filter and if it doesn't come out crystal clear, bin it (and now I guess we have to video the whole process soup-to-nuts if you want to approach the vendor for a refund)

Either of these are grounds for refund upon receipt.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Either of these are grounds for refund upon receipt.

agree but the new thing is needing a video to provide evidence that you're not a reverse scammer

it's not foolproof (duh) but seems to be enough for them to refuse a refund

 

[oldage]

You're gonna get a spectrum of opinions

Mine is: no, it's not that bad

Of course if you see floaters in any gear, regardless if it's US or China, filter it, but if you see people saying they got floaters in every vial of China gear, they're exaggerating or lying to make a fuss

I think it's a money thing: if you spend more on US gear, you don't want other people to think you got ripped off, so you preach China gear is contaminated to save face

also, I don't really care, you want US gear and want to believe it is superior in some way other than T/A? go for it

Every vial of test I got had floaters. They are over using filters and producing it as cheap as possible. U.S. gear is not better much of the time. But if u want I quality, u can research amd find it. High quality being, raws tested for purity, finish product tested for dosage, high quality stoppers that are PTFE and dont breakdown when in contact with the solvents in your gear, pharma MCT. China oils dont have any of that but it's also half the price.

Below 1st 3 vials are unfiltered China oil. 2nd 3 are after filtering.

If u just quickly look at the oil, sure its gtg. Oh, and EO is not something to be afraid of. Actually makes pinning a pleasure. No pip and thinner. Its was used and occasionally is still used in pharma.

If gonna store long term. U will want to filter and use new vials and PTFE stoppers

 

[dick_starbuck]

Every vial of test I got had floaters. They are over using filters and producing it as cheap as possible. U.S. gear is not better much of the time. But if u want I quality, u can research amd find it. High quality being, raws tested for purity, finish product tested for dosage, high quality stoppers that are PTFE and dont breakdown when in contact with the solvents in your gear, pharma MCT. China oils dont have any of that but it's also half the price.

Below 1st 3 vials are unfiltered China oil. 2nd 3 are after filtering.

If u just quickly look at the oil, sure its gtg. Oh, and EO is not something to be afraid of. Actually makes pinning a pleasure. No pip and thinner. Its was used and occasionally is still used in pharma.

If gonna store long term. U will want to filter and use new vials and PTFE stoppers

I see this all the time in my CN oils. Thats why I filter.


That Legend stuff though actually is perfectly clear so far though.

 

[Angryshitter]

Every vial of test I got had floaters. They are over using filters and producing it as cheap as possible. U.S. gear is not better much of the time. But if u want I quality, u can research amd find it. High quality being, raws tested for purity, finish product tested for dosage, high quality stoppers that are PTFE and dont breakdown when in contact with the solvents in your gear, pharma MCT. China oils dont have any of that but it's also half the price.

Below 1st 3 vials are unfiltered China oil. 2nd 3 are after filtering.

If u just quickly look at the oil, sure its gtg. Oh, and EO is not something to be afraid of. Actually makes pinning a pleasure. No pip and thinner. Its was used and occasionally is still used in pharma.

If gonna store long term. U will want to filter and use new vials and PTFE stoppers

i guess my fear with EO is that i heard its toxic AF for your kidneys and liver and it gives you cancer and all the fun stuff.

or is this bubble theory?

also thank you for mentiontion PTFE stoppers. im taking notes here haha

i really want to find some high quality china raws. i just read somewhere that its hard to source and its not cheap anymore. is this true?

 

[oldage]

EO is not known to be toxic for the kidneys, liver or heart. Agian. Its approved by the FDA to be used by the pharma industry.

Guaiacol on the other hand is not great for you. Chinese will use this in TNE, inj adrol, tren base......

Raws have become hard to get compared to a year ago and probably not changing. The other thing is the quality of the raws are low grade much of the time. Recently I've seen some good test c. But honestly everything is questionable and u would probably want to send it out for testing 1. To be able to hit your targeted mg/ml 2. Whether its useable or not 3. If it is actually the AAS you intended to purchase

 

[oldage]

I see this all the time in my CN oils. Thats why I filter.


That Legend stuff though actually is perfectly clear so far though.

I am waiting on my first order.

 

[dallascowboys01]

okay silly question but what happened that made the raws market so shitty?

Bigger question is..

Since China oils are hit or miss, Most people generally like Domestic products better because of quality and consistency

BUT!!!! if all Raws come from china.... and china Raws are shit right now,

then how are domestic vendors producing quality gear? i heard raws aren't much cheaper if at all then compared to just buying finished product, not to mention quality issues like you are saying, the general consensus seems to be that raws arent even worth it if your doing it to save money, its more of a hobby to homebrew at this point..

if this is true then how are domestic sellers in buisness?

i allways thought they just order a big Ole bag of raw test, homebrew it for the cost of $5-$10 a vial and flip it for $40 a vial on the market,

so how do they stay in buisness and keep prices stable if raw prices went to shit, and the quality is ASS.. this is just everything ive been reading lately.

also last question, why is the Raws market going to stay shitty? thats so depressing lol

Depends on the gear but you can see the different prices say for instance npp or trenA from china vendors vs domestic vendors.