Perhaps its simply the language barrier? But I have to say, I'm concerned by your posts as it sounds to me as if you are threatening a respected member of the community here,(sworder) I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but this is what I'm feeling here,,
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
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I PMed Sworder first before posting on this thread to try and get to the root of this matter.
Pls ask Sworder if I've ever implied that he's done anything wrong, not to mention threatened on him, and why would I ?! If someone would do something bad intentionally to my team it certainly wouldn't be discussed by me on an open forum but will be taken care by other means.
I have had all the patient and good will to explain and emphasize that anabolicsuptreme and pro-bodys don't have the same owner at all. Anabolicsupreme is quite a new site, and I may again address each point (the servers, the products etc') and prove again that there are not the same at all. If you do want me to prove it and specify again iI will but I find it pointless after the hostility I've witnessed here, it looks like you prefer to back up a baseless assumption of a vet here and neglect the facts.
If Sworder would come to the contact us section on Sciroxx.com when this incident happened he would have got the proper support immediately from me and probably this issue would be solved - you may all try and address to me any issue, problem or complaint and get the proper and productive solution within 24 hours.
I encourage everyone here to trial anabolicsupreme services, and if someone missed it i put my rep behind it, I'm in this industry for more then a decade and Sciroxx has served many thousands of customers since 2008 so I guess it means something.
I'll work out the best way with Sworder his issue and make sure he's satisfied, it's really hard for me to know what happened a year ago with this 100usd transaction and pro-bodys actually denies such happened. I've never got such complaint on pro-bodys so if someone know of any other incident pls write to me.
If the post I first quoted wasn't a veiled threat, the second post of yours I quoted most certainly is a more direct threat/warning that sworder or anyone else that crosses you won't see it coming.
I would hope Millard takes a look at the shit that is being thrown around here. I'm familiar with power orientation and the criminal mindset. I was force fed cognitive behavior therapy on the inside. You really should knock this silly shit off...
bodybuilder805
New Member
I fail to see how KarlSX has threatened anyone here. All he said was if he did intend to do anything he would not post about it, this does not constatute a threat in my eyes.
I have no dog in this fight, but comments such as;
"Be very careful with your claims" ? OR
"Do something bad intentionally to my team, would not be discussed via an open forum "but by other means"? are likely to be interpreted differently from one person to the next.
This is particularly true when those remarks are directed at a VERY credible and well respected member at Meso.
Consequently try to understand Karl, Sworder WILL be given the benefit of the doubt in my mind (similar to the courtesy you've earned from "team members") and your suggestion that his claims are BASELESS, will fall on deaf ears using a confrontational "in your face" approach to conflict resolution.
Moreover it's simply "good business" to ensure mates like Sworder are "happy" especially if the disagreement is over a meager one hundred dollar transactiom, as you've already suggested.
"Be very careful with your claims" ? OR
"Do something bad intentionally to my team, would not be discussed via an open forum "but by other means"? are likely to be interpreted differently from one person to the next.
This is particularly true when those remarks are directed at a VERY credible and well respected member at Meso.
Consequently try to understand Karl, Sworder WILL be given the benefit of the doubt in my mind (similar to the courtesy you've earned from "team members") and your suggestion that his claims are BASELESS, will fall on deaf ears using a confrontational "in your face" approach to conflict resolution.
Moreover it's simply "good business" to ensure mates like Sworder are "happy" especially if the disagreement is over a meager one hundred dollar transactiom, as you've already suggested.
mac111
New Member
ive no dog in it either and agree with you Jim. it does seem threatening towards Sworder, who is a sound bloke on here and i wouldn't imagine him to create shit for nothing either.
Sworder
Member
Sworder said:
KarlSX said:
Ok, so from our private messages Karl has confirmed a couple things and I wanted to share it in the open so everybody knows whats going on with companies they are deciding to send their money to.
First off, I forgot to mention in this thread that I consider SupremeAAS to be part of the same company/scam group as well.
Karl confirmed that SupremeAAS/pro-bodies have the same owner. He still refuses to admit any connection between SupremeAAS and AnabolicSupreme. Ok, lets say the names again SupremeAAS and AnabolicSupreme. LMFAO even the names are almost identical.
These three websites are the only ones on the internet which have carried the SAME products and offered the SAME services with the same wording on their websites.
Personally, I believe that probodies/anabolicsupreme/supremeAAS were owned by the same guy. A couple domestic suppliers went down a year ago and AnabolicSupreme packed up shop, moved servers to avoid the oncoming heat. This is just speculation from my part.
I did check the IP addresses and they are the following for the different websites:
pro-bodies.net 213.175.223.4 UK
supremeaas 213.175.223.93 UK
sciroxx-online 213.175.220.212 UK
Anabolicsupreme 103.247.96.51 India
So this doesn't really say that much, besides that pro-bodies, supremeaas and sciroxx use the same ISP while AnabolicSupreme has moved. I honestly don't know if AnabolicSupreme used to have their ISP in UK a year ago. I know they recently moved so I would place a $100 bet on that if I pinged them a year ago they would come up with 213.175.22X.XX something
So, AnabolicSupreme and Karl, I understand that you do not want to shut your mouth. I am not looking out to making your company look bad. I am just point out an OBVIOUS connection between you guys. Whatever deal you guys had in the past or whatever is still obvious for me. The thing that has pissed me off is how you guys are playing stupid saying that I am on drugs because I am making this connection. Had you said, "Yes, I see how you might have made this connection but it is untrue" I would have been okay with that and not furthered this thread which gives you bad publicity.
If you want to continue to piss me off by saying that there is NO CONNECTION between you and SupremeAAS/pro-bodies besides the fact that you sold the same products, probably had the same domestic suppliers a year ago, copied each other's menu LMFAO. It's the continuance of you saying there is absolutely NO connection and that you are playing stupid that prompts me to continue to expose this. People can make up their own mind about if there is a connection between you three companies. While I know from personal experience that pro-bodies collects money and doesn't send out product. Karl confirmed pro-bodies/supremeAAS but not you AnabolicSupreme. Seriously, it's as if you guys sat in the same meeting on how to design a website, what menu to use, the products and separate domestic/international shipping, basing in Europe while having affiliates in the US, HOW TO NAME YOUR WEBSITE LMAO AnabolicSupreme/SupremeAAS don't they sound kind of similar???
Still no connection right?
It's making him look bad dealing with people like you and pro-bodies/supremeAAS/SupremeAAS. It also increases his suspicion and involvement in these companies. He is just a supplier, I haven't even mentioned Sciroxx products being good/bad or if they are fake. Karl obviously has a vested interest in keeping you afloat, if you make money so does he.
Ok so Karl and AnabolicSupreme you can continue to agitate me or stop posting. With every post you make I will continue to make my argument stronger. I don't think it's in your best interest to ask me to find more people that have been scammed by your suppliers. The more people and forums I go on talking about scamming, Scrioxx, AnabolicSupreme the LESS sales you will get. Which is the reason to why I have refrained from posting, so you do not keep on getting bad publicity. I have said many times, I don't care about this matter. Let it die or keep anticipating posts from me. I have no intention to keep on continuing to give you bad exposure but I will respond to your posts.
Ok, so from our private messages Karl has confirmed a couple things and I wanted to share it in the open so everybody knows whats going on with companies they are deciding to send their money to.
First off, I forgot to mention in this thread that I consider SupremeAAS to be part of the same company/scam group as well.
Karl confirmed that SupremeAAS/pro-bodies have the same owner. He still refuses to admit any connection between SupremeAAS and AnabolicSupreme. Ok, lets say the names again SupremeAAS and AnabolicSupreme. LMFAO even the names are almost identical.
These three websites are the only ones on the internet which have carried the SAME products and offered the SAME services with the same wording on their websites.
Personally, I believe that probodies/anabolicsupreme/supremeAAS were owned by the same guy. A couple domestic suppliers went down a year ago and AnabolicSupreme packed up shop, moved servers to avoid the oncoming heat. This is just speculation from my part.
I did check the IP addresses and they are the following for the different websites:
pro-bodies.net 213.175.223.4 UK
supremeaas 213.175.223.93 UK
sciroxx-online 213.175.220.212 UK
Anabolicsupreme 103.247.96.51 India
So this doesn't really say that much, besides that pro-bodies, supremeaas and sciroxx use the same ISP while AnabolicSupreme has moved. I honestly don't know if AnabolicSupreme used to have their ISP in UK a year ago. I know they recently moved so I would place a $100 bet on that if I pinged them a year ago they would come up with 213.175.22X.XX something
So, AnabolicSupreme and Karl, I understand that you do not want to shut your mouth. I am not looking out to making your company look bad. I am just point out an OBVIOUS connection between you guys. Whatever deal you guys had in the past or whatever is still obvious for me. The thing that has pissed me off is how you guys are playing stupid saying that I am on drugs because I am making this connection. Had you said, "Yes, I see how you might have made this connection but it is untrue" I would have been okay with that and not furthered this thread which gives you bad publicity.
If you want to continue to piss me off by saying that there is NO CONNECTION between you and SupremeAAS/pro-bodies besides the fact that you sold the same products, probably had the same domestic suppliers a year ago, copied each other's menu LMFAO. It's the continuance of you saying there is absolutely NO connection and that you are playing stupid that prompts me to continue to expose this. People can make up their own mind about if there is a connection between you three companies. While I know from personal experience that pro-bodies collects money and doesn't send out product. Karl confirmed pro-bodies/supremeAAS but not you AnabolicSupreme. Seriously, it's as if you guys sat in the same meeting on how to design a website, what menu to use, the products and separate domestic/international shipping, basing in Europe while having affiliates in the US, HOW TO NAME YOUR WEBSITE LMAO AnabolicSupreme/SupremeAAS don't they sound kind of similar???
Still no connection right?
It's making him look bad dealing with people like you and pro-bodies/supremeAAS/SupremeAAS. It also increases his suspicion and involvement in these companies. He is just a supplier, I haven't even mentioned Sciroxx products being good/bad or if they are fake. Karl obviously has a vested interest in keeping you afloat, if you make money so does he.
Ok so Karl and AnabolicSupreme you can continue to agitate me or stop posting. With every post you make I will continue to make my argument stronger. I don't think it's in your best interest to ask me to find more people that have been scammed by your suppliers. The more people and forums I go on talking about scamming, Scrioxx, AnabolicSupreme the LESS sales you will get. Which is the reason to why I have refrained from posting, so you do not keep on getting bad publicity. I have said many times, I don't care about this matter. Let it die or keep anticipating posts from me. I have no intention to keep on continuing to give you bad exposure but I will respond to your posts.
I understand and respect your position, sworder. I hope you can respect mine. Fuck these wannabe gangsters. Karl and whomever, it doesn't take a whole lot of investigating to find out who I am. I encourage confrontation. Fuck you. I'm not worried about you or your connections. Threatening members here? Again, fuck you. Send some thugs....they'll meet one...and others. Ask around, you won't be the first online dealers I've dealt with. I've traveled to do so.
Call me an internet tough guy. You'll find I'm that and so much more.
This is why internet communication is ridiculous. One person reads something and interprets one way, another reads and interprets another and yet another reads and interprets another way. It's FUCKING hilarious to listen to grown men go back and forth. I do not see where Karl has threatened anyone. Hell he said he would take them off his supplier list if someone can prove so. I have have known Karl for a couple years now from another private site. And he is a stand up guy who takes care of his customers. If you want Scrioxx products go straight to him or if he vouch for a re-seller and they screw up he will take care of it.
mands
mands
bodybuilder805
New Member
Just like an old book who some people chose to base there whole existance on
I to will vouch for karl, has yet to let me or any of my boys down.
anabolicsupeme
Subscriber
As I mention before, me and KarlSX don't have any connection to pro bodies or supremeaas (they sciroxx resellers). if our website name is anabolicsupreme so what? what the connection to them? because of the name.
Anyway, sworder or whatever persons who decide to defend on him. unless you have real proof - your statement is meanless.
We really don't want to play this stupid game, we're new in the business - don't want to beleive? go ahead - your problem, not mine. but what we don't like that people say lies and false things on us - and they even try our service.
We have very good reputation at eroids, enhancegenetics, steroid-forums. what is funny here? all of them you decide they are garbage. maybe you (sworder) think you know better than anyone. maybe you want to replace me at anabolicsupreme?
And who is lilo? (or maybe you'll say it's me).
Really ridiculous accusations.
And...you know what is funny here? only here we heard this accusations. strange that no forum find that, huh? maybe most of the forums members are stupid. so they haven't figure that.
Anyway, sworder or whatever persons who decide to defend on him. unless you have real proof - your statement is meanless.
We really don't want to play this stupid game, we're new in the business - don't want to beleive? go ahead - your problem, not mine. but what we don't like that people say lies and false things on us - and they even try our service.
We have very good reputation at eroids, enhancegenetics, steroid-forums. what is funny here? all of them you decide they are garbage. maybe you (sworder) think you know better than anyone. maybe you want to replace me at anabolicsupreme?
And who is lilo? (or maybe you'll say it's me).
Really ridiculous accusations.
And...you know what is funny here? only here we heard this accusations. strange that no forum find that, huh? maybe most of the forums members are stupid. so they haven't figure that.
If mands says it's a miscommunication and karl is good people and was not threatening anyone, that's good enough for me. I apologize for my outburst, sir. Things have been a bit hectic around here. It's hard to tell who the good guys are at times. Again, my apologies.
ABS
Please stop tooting your own horn, you have simply not been around long enough to EARN a solid reputation, anywhere, exclusive of web sites like eroids where ratings can and often are PURCHASED!
AAS start ups like ABS are a dime a dozen and most exit as fast as they entered the "market". Your only saving grace is the Sciroxx products sold on your site!
So please, cease the above reproach nonsense.
Please stop tooting your own horn, you have simply not been around long enough to EARN a solid reputation, anywhere, exclusive of web sites like eroids where ratings can and often are PURCHASED!
AAS start ups like ABS are a dime a dozen and most exit as fast as they entered the "market". Your only saving grace is the Sciroxx products sold on your site!
So please, cease the above reproach nonsense.
anabolicsupeme
Subscriber
I have all the right to defend my reputation. if someone said lies and false thing about me and he really don't know what he's talking about. so no - I won't stop.
Let's take a situtaion, some group of people say you (dr jim) idiot and they even don't know you. just think you're somebody else. how do you'll react? I don't expect you'll sit and shut your mouth, am I right?
Same for me, if I gave him bad service, so he have all the rights to do that. but if he doesn't know me. but he thinks I'm somebody else and still insist (he tried to prove that but he ignore from all the signs we are not supremeass/pro bodies).
So, again. I won't stop untill people will write honest things about us and not rumours.
So far I heard from the vet members here - they bash all of the major AAS forums. sorry, but that doesn't make any sense to me.
Let's take a situtaion, some group of people say you (dr jim) idiot and they even don't know you. just think you're somebody else. how do you'll react? I don't expect you'll sit and shut your mouth, am I right?
Same for me, if I gave him bad service, so he have all the rights to do that. but if he doesn't know me. but he thinks I'm somebody else and still insist (he tried to prove that but he ignore from all the signs we are not supremeass/pro bodies).
So, again. I won't stop untill people will write honest things about us and not rumours.
So far I heard from the vet members here - they bash all of the major AAS forums. sorry, but that doesn't make any sense to me.
If YOU are Karl rather than your misguided serfs so be it, but argure your perspective as an OWNER rather than under the guise of some new found web site.
Oh PS
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT ME, YET IM NOT TRYING TO SELL SOMETHING, AM I?
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT ME, YET IM NOT TRYING TO SELL SOMETHING, AM I?
anabolicsupeme
Subscriber
We never misguided anybody, me and Karl are the owners of anabolicsupreme. I'm the manager and Karl responsible on the tech side (supply the gear).
Everybody take care of his reputation in his way, yeah I really give a damn if someone said false things on me. especially on my business.
Everybody take care of his reputation in his way, yeah I really give a damn if someone said false things on me. especially on my business.
Fine
Which one YOU or KARL are willing to guarantee the "Kigotropin" sold on ABS? I'll be it's not Karl, lol.
Which one YOU or KARL are willing to guarantee the "Kigotropin" sold on ABS? I'll be it's not Karl, lol.
anabolicsupeme
Subscriber
We stopped to sell the kigtropin HGH and IGF, we gave it as a complimentary service for our customers. it's not our main sellers. soon we'll have new brand of HGH.
norbit09
New Member
He is not Karl or is KarlSX the real Karl they are phonys trying to post for the real Karl. This is according to pms between myself and KarlSX who could not not answer questions which only the real Karl would know.
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