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Hey krazy... I did 8 weeks @ 12.5mg/ED. Total T went from 400's to 930! I didn't feel the libido boost until I went off for a few days, likely due to the estrogen blocking effects of the clomid. It seems difficult to keep the high T levels going after stopping... I am considering hcg monotherapy 300iu/E3D + low dose arimidex if necessary.
hey LeanGuy,
can you clarify? So you only did 12.5mg of Clomid everyday b/c I never heard of people doing low dose clomid. Normally ppl are using 150mg or more of clomid, but if it works then I'll consider using your dosage.
Also, did your total testosterone of 930 stick or has it gone back down to 400? and when did it happen???
Yeah, 12.5mg every day took me to 930 in 6 weeks (that was about a month ago). I am still waiting for my post-clomid labs but it should stay in the upper range for awhile. I'm using some longjack100 to try and keep the levels going. Jansz is right, clomid is toxic... would never want to do 150mg.
Esso, Could you get away with running clomid by itself for two weeks at 12.5mg and then doing 12.5 3x a week the next week? Or are clomid and nolva both needed? I think you have the right idea with using as little as possible.
Well I've read that clomid also has the reverse effect and desensitizes your body to the hormones you need to restart. I don't know all the details, but I know that basics that it's good to get your nuts back in action but then you need to drop it pronto. So personally I wouldn't use clomid for more than 2 weeks for that reason.
I also use over the counter products as well. Toco-8, EndoAmp, sustain alpha and Tongkat Ali (if u get the right one). The good brand of tongkat ali is unbelievably good and I've posted several times that it doubled my LH and FSH and increased my testosterone by 50%. I had labs to prove it.
Using this combination of natural products is a very good PCT and then your use of SERMS can be reduced a lot, however I am a fan of using an extended course of low dose nolva along with the natural products (about 2.5mg a day).
I'm currently on EndoAmp, Toco-8, 2.5mg Nolva, and sometimes use sustain alpha but not every day, and my libido is good, erections good, sleep good, energy good too but i get tired from about 6pm. All this considering I came off a year of TRT only 4 weeks ago and my natural test level before going on trt was about 10 (11-33). I feel about 1000x better than when i did a restart using nolva and clomid at high doses.
I also use 'from fatigued to fantastic' revitalising sleep formula and also some melatonin to help me sleep deep, which is vital during pct and can be very difficult.
Tongkat Ali (if u get the right one). The good brand of tongkat ali is unbelievably good and I've posted several times that it doubled my LH and FSH and increased my testosterone by 50%. I had labs to prove it.
do you have the specific bloodwork for the tongkat ali? did you go from 10 to 15 or something like that
Yes i went from 10 - 15 (11-33) so I was still low, but it was the highest test reading I'd ever had. My LH and FSH also went much higher, I can't remember exactly what they were but they were in the high single digits when previously they had been right at the bottom.
It was the newlifealternatives.com brand, which is sourced from the tongkatali.org site.
Update on my current regime of 2.5mg nolva, toco-8, endo-amp, and sustain alpha: very good! sex drive was crazy yesterday it was all i could think about. On TRT i pretty much had no sex drive at all. I'll get some labs and see how this all goes and post a new thread somewhere when i have some solid numbers and some more time on it.