AlphaWolf
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I posted this up on GotFina.com a long time back when Gotfina.com was still active, many people have found it very useful and I have been asked to send it many times over to people. So here it is, verbatim with the original.
PGF-2A
Well, finished off my 5 vials of PGF-2A about 18 days or so ago, just been too busy to go and write up a full report on my results and findings about PGF-2A, well anyway here we go.
.this might take you a long time to read.
SHORT EXPLANATION OF PGF-2A
PGF-2A is highly anabolic but only for a short time which gives the muscle or area directly injected into the most benefit and the little that makes it into the circulatory system and isnt destroyed in the lungs will make it around to other muscles in the body giving them some benefit from the injections. Also PGF-2A destroys fat cells making them release their contained fat into the blood stream to be burned by the body for energy, if you dont burn it off then it is simply re-deposited somewhere else, i.e. you can inject all you want in your stomach and it may get tighter but unless youre doing cardio or some sort of aerobic exercise, your ass is going to get larger.
DOSING AND ADMINISTRATION
Injection
Ok after that brief and probably vague explanation of the PGF-2A Ill get more to the point. I received 5 vials of Lutalyse (PGF-2A), each vial is 30ml at 5mg/ml, I was coming to a close with my PCT from my 10 week cycle of omna, prop, enanth, fina and drol, so I figured might be useful to put on a little more mass and tons down a bit. I did my first injection later on in the day after I got home from work. I shot about of a cc of the PGF-2A ~1.25mg into my right delt, that shot didnt phase me whatsoever so I waited about an hour and then shot 1/2cc ~2.5mg into my right delt again, about 10 minutes post injection I felt a little warm and stomach felt weird. Wasnt that bad so I waited another hour and this time shot 1cc into my left delt, and that 1cc really got me, about 10 minutes post injection I was sweating but felt cold, very tight chest, stomach was weird and I had to go empty my bowels about 25-30 minutes after the injections and also the site where I shot got sore, very sore. All the sides passed within about 45 minutes to an hour after they first began none the less they were annoying but at least short lived. I noticed that post injection my stomach felt very empty a weird feeling empty, so I went and ate something which solved that right away. Later that night I did 1cc into each delt and sat and waited for the sides to come which they did and as before they lasted all of about 45 minutes or so, the soreness tends to linger a bit longer though. I found it very hard to sleep that night which I attribute to the PGF-2A since I did the shot so close to the time I went to bed.
I continued on with the injections for two weeks straight and noticed that the sides effected me less and less and then stayed at a comfortable point, I also noticed that if I injected then took a warm shower it lessened the soreness. I began to make my injections more frequently, I did them 3x a day and then 4x a day, but I soon ran out of slin pins so I was forced to stop them for a while. After I received my slin pins I got kinda lazy on the shots and did them on days when I felt like dealing with the sides, also I had received 1/2cc pins instead of the 1cc pins which I had before and I wasnt inclined enough to go and buy more. I finished off 2 1/3 vials of the stuff, in about 2 weeks or so of doing 12 shots per day because of those damn 1/2cc pins! At this point I got tired of the low volume shots and using a 5cc syringe and one of the 1/2cc slin pins which I cut, I was able to xush the two together giving me a 5cc syringe with a 1/2 29g needle on it. So daringly I began doing 5cc shots, the shot would take a while to inject and would leave a nice lump for a little bit while the PGF-2A was being absorbed. And the sides from those shots were horrendous, the sides were the same as before, sweating, feeling very cold, GI upset, tight chest, soreness but I also got the strong need to urinate which upon doing caused a slight bit of pain and also my head felt very heady almost like there was a weight on top of it. And these sides where really bad the sweating and cold feeling would leave me drenched in sweat and shivering so I had to resort to wrapping myself in a towel to keep dry. As with before the sides only lasted for about 45 minutes to an hour, but during those 45 minutes I hated the shit, but once they subsided I would go and eat something and then contemplate my next injection. I should note that the majority of my injections where done sub-q but I pushed the needle in hard so it would go deeper into the tissues, I did however try IM injections which I found slightly more painful as far as the soreness goes but everything else was the same.
Transdermal
I took what was left of one vial which I estimate to be about 2/3 of the vial, I popped of the seal and poured it into one of those large shot glasses (it was the closest thing around...I swear I dont drink that muchhonestly!) I planned on using this small amount for transdermal use, I rubbed on 1ml alone - felt nothing, went higher to 2ml and felt a slight bit of warmth and tiny twinge of stomach upset. Later on I tried 1ml and 2ml mixed with DMSO which resulted in a little more appearance of the sides but not by much. I neglected the PGF-2A in the shot glass and finished another 1 bottle and about 2/3 of one doing injections, then I came back to it and noticed that it was no longer a liquid but rather a think sticky gelthis was unexpected to say the least. The gel Im guessing is the actual PGF-2A, but I could be mistakenI havent yet experimented with the gel yet so I cant be certain what the hell it is. I took what little of the PGF-2A I had left and placed it in another shot glass (I seriously rarely drink) and left it where I had left the other one and day by day I noticed that the liquid would sort of evaporate and soon enough I had more of the gel. I still havent done anything with it yet, contemplating how to use it
RESULTS AND OBSERVATIONS
Injection
When doing the injections I did notice some muscle mass increase, especially where I was injecting, but with the larger volume injections I noticed over night muscle growth believe it or not, the area where I had injected would be noticeably larger the next morning and it was not from swelling it was hard lean tissue. I also noticed that my body fat percentage had dropped by 2% in the time I was using the PGF-2A.
Transdermal
I noticed with transdermal administration of the PGF-2A that the area where I would rub it in would receive the benefit from it over time I would see a decrease in the amount of flab in that area.
Observations
Post injection you will notice the following side effects;
-Stomach upset, diarrhea, strong need to empty bowels
-Tight chest, slightly hard to breathe
-Feeling cold but sweating
-Need to urinate
-Feeling lethargic
-Soreness
In general youll feel pretty crappy post injection, but mostly depends on the volume of your injection; the higher you go the worst the sides.
Also, I noticed that some sites of injection become a great deal more sore than others, specifically; calves and chest, areas with a lot of mass are the ones to shoot for; biceps, triceps, quads, delts, etc.
And, I find that if I inject after eat a meal that it empties my stomach and makes it feel rather strange since you know you just ate and you were just full but now it feels like there is nothing. So I would inject and wait for all the sides to clear and then go make myself something to eat.
I also found that doing one large dose injection per day seemed to work better than doing several smaller dose injections, of course the sides are worst but you dont have to stab yourself so many times. I also believe that doing one large injection causes a greater state of anabolism since the PGF-2A is in a greater volume the body will take longer to absorb it all into the bloodstream which leaves it more time to work its magic on the muscle tissue.
OVERALL EXPERIENCE
Overall my experience with it was an interesting one, in the 3 weeks using PGF-2A I was able to gain 15lbs of overall mass which has remained, and I also managed to drop down 2% body fat which I thought was pretty impressive.
Would I use PGF-2A again? Well, maybe, the results I got were favorable but the sides were annoying and the injections I had to put up with where a pain, especially in the beginning when I was doing it 3x a day, (I just finished up an ED cycleso Im pretty sick of injections). I would use PGF-2A again but I think I would like to use it with a small cycle at a low dose and mix it in with one of my shots so I have that to maybe help reduce the sides.
Any questions feel free to ask.
Note: It took me 40 minutes to write this!
PGF-2A
Well, finished off my 5 vials of PGF-2A about 18 days or so ago, just been too busy to go and write up a full report on my results and findings about PGF-2A, well anyway here we go.
.this might take you a long time to read.
SHORT EXPLANATION OF PGF-2A
PGF-2A is highly anabolic but only for a short time which gives the muscle or area directly injected into the most benefit and the little that makes it into the circulatory system and isnt destroyed in the lungs will make it around to other muscles in the body giving them some benefit from the injections. Also PGF-2A destroys fat cells making them release their contained fat into the blood stream to be burned by the body for energy, if you dont burn it off then it is simply re-deposited somewhere else, i.e. you can inject all you want in your stomach and it may get tighter but unless youre doing cardio or some sort of aerobic exercise, your ass is going to get larger.
DOSING AND ADMINISTRATION
Injection
Ok after that brief and probably vague explanation of the PGF-2A Ill get more to the point. I received 5 vials of Lutalyse (PGF-2A), each vial is 30ml at 5mg/ml, I was coming to a close with my PCT from my 10 week cycle of omna, prop, enanth, fina and drol, so I figured might be useful to put on a little more mass and tons down a bit. I did my first injection later on in the day after I got home from work. I shot about of a cc of the PGF-2A ~1.25mg into my right delt, that shot didnt phase me whatsoever so I waited about an hour and then shot 1/2cc ~2.5mg into my right delt again, about 10 minutes post injection I felt a little warm and stomach felt weird. Wasnt that bad so I waited another hour and this time shot 1cc into my left delt, and that 1cc really got me, about 10 minutes post injection I was sweating but felt cold, very tight chest, stomach was weird and I had to go empty my bowels about 25-30 minutes after the injections and also the site where I shot got sore, very sore. All the sides passed within about 45 minutes to an hour after they first began none the less they were annoying but at least short lived. I noticed that post injection my stomach felt very empty a weird feeling empty, so I went and ate something which solved that right away. Later that night I did 1cc into each delt and sat and waited for the sides to come which they did and as before they lasted all of about 45 minutes or so, the soreness tends to linger a bit longer though. I found it very hard to sleep that night which I attribute to the PGF-2A since I did the shot so close to the time I went to bed.
I continued on with the injections for two weeks straight and noticed that the sides effected me less and less and then stayed at a comfortable point, I also noticed that if I injected then took a warm shower it lessened the soreness. I began to make my injections more frequently, I did them 3x a day and then 4x a day, but I soon ran out of slin pins so I was forced to stop them for a while. After I received my slin pins I got kinda lazy on the shots and did them on days when I felt like dealing with the sides, also I had received 1/2cc pins instead of the 1cc pins which I had before and I wasnt inclined enough to go and buy more. I finished off 2 1/3 vials of the stuff, in about 2 weeks or so of doing 12 shots per day because of those damn 1/2cc pins! At this point I got tired of the low volume shots and using a 5cc syringe and one of the 1/2cc slin pins which I cut, I was able to xush the two together giving me a 5cc syringe with a 1/2 29g needle on it. So daringly I began doing 5cc shots, the shot would take a while to inject and would leave a nice lump for a little bit while the PGF-2A was being absorbed. And the sides from those shots were horrendous, the sides were the same as before, sweating, feeling very cold, GI upset, tight chest, soreness but I also got the strong need to urinate which upon doing caused a slight bit of pain and also my head felt very heady almost like there was a weight on top of it. And these sides where really bad the sweating and cold feeling would leave me drenched in sweat and shivering so I had to resort to wrapping myself in a towel to keep dry. As with before the sides only lasted for about 45 minutes to an hour, but during those 45 minutes I hated the shit, but once they subsided I would go and eat something and then contemplate my next injection. I should note that the majority of my injections where done sub-q but I pushed the needle in hard so it would go deeper into the tissues, I did however try IM injections which I found slightly more painful as far as the soreness goes but everything else was the same.
Transdermal
I took what was left of one vial which I estimate to be about 2/3 of the vial, I popped of the seal and poured it into one of those large shot glasses (it was the closest thing around...I swear I dont drink that muchhonestly!) I planned on using this small amount for transdermal use, I rubbed on 1ml alone - felt nothing, went higher to 2ml and felt a slight bit of warmth and tiny twinge of stomach upset. Later on I tried 1ml and 2ml mixed with DMSO which resulted in a little more appearance of the sides but not by much. I neglected the PGF-2A in the shot glass and finished another 1 bottle and about 2/3 of one doing injections, then I came back to it and noticed that it was no longer a liquid but rather a think sticky gelthis was unexpected to say the least. The gel Im guessing is the actual PGF-2A, but I could be mistakenI havent yet experimented with the gel yet so I cant be certain what the hell it is. I took what little of the PGF-2A I had left and placed it in another shot glass (I seriously rarely drink) and left it where I had left the other one and day by day I noticed that the liquid would sort of evaporate and soon enough I had more of the gel. I still havent done anything with it yet, contemplating how to use it
RESULTS AND OBSERVATIONS
Injection
When doing the injections I did notice some muscle mass increase, especially where I was injecting, but with the larger volume injections I noticed over night muscle growth believe it or not, the area where I had injected would be noticeably larger the next morning and it was not from swelling it was hard lean tissue. I also noticed that my body fat percentage had dropped by 2% in the time I was using the PGF-2A.
Transdermal
I noticed with transdermal administration of the PGF-2A that the area where I would rub it in would receive the benefit from it over time I would see a decrease in the amount of flab in that area.
Observations
Post injection you will notice the following side effects;
-Stomach upset, diarrhea, strong need to empty bowels
-Tight chest, slightly hard to breathe
-Feeling cold but sweating
-Need to urinate
-Feeling lethargic
-Soreness
In general youll feel pretty crappy post injection, but mostly depends on the volume of your injection; the higher you go the worst the sides.
Also, I noticed that some sites of injection become a great deal more sore than others, specifically; calves and chest, areas with a lot of mass are the ones to shoot for; biceps, triceps, quads, delts, etc.
And, I find that if I inject after eat a meal that it empties my stomach and makes it feel rather strange since you know you just ate and you were just full but now it feels like there is nothing. So I would inject and wait for all the sides to clear and then go make myself something to eat.
I also found that doing one large dose injection per day seemed to work better than doing several smaller dose injections, of course the sides are worst but you dont have to stab yourself so many times. I also believe that doing one large injection causes a greater state of anabolism since the PGF-2A is in a greater volume the body will take longer to absorb it all into the bloodstream which leaves it more time to work its magic on the muscle tissue.
OVERALL EXPERIENCE
Overall my experience with it was an interesting one, in the 3 weeks using PGF-2A I was able to gain 15lbs of overall mass which has remained, and I also managed to drop down 2% body fat which I thought was pretty impressive.
Would I use PGF-2A again? Well, maybe, the results I got were favorable but the sides were annoying and the injections I had to put up with where a pain, especially in the beginning when I was doing it 3x a day, (I just finished up an ED cycleso Im pretty sick of injections). I would use PGF-2A again but I think I would like to use it with a small cycle at a low dose and mix it in with one of my shots so I have that to maybe help reduce the sides.
Any questions feel free to ask.
Note: It took me 40 minutes to write this!
