Lil-BIG-Man
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I've heard a lot of people say the term "bridging." Especially when someone it talking about primo...what does bridging mean? Sorry for the dumb question but i'm curious. Thanks.
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bridging?
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gman67
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Bridging is using a mild anabolic inbetween cycles instead of completely coming off.
Big, the term "Bridging" is used to describe the time frame between cycles of AAS usage. Many people will use a low dose of Primobolan, Anavar or D-bol in between cycles to promote positive nitrogen balance and to prevent the body from entering into a catabolic state where gains from the previous cycle would be lost.
A specific example of an effective bridge would be:
200mg Primobolan Depot per week throughout your off cycle
or
10mg Day of Anavar
or
10mg Day of D-bol taken in the am
Hope this helps....
A specific example of an effective bridge would be:
200mg Primobolan Depot per week throughout your off cycle
or
10mg Day of Anavar
or
10mg Day of D-bol taken in the am
Hope this helps....
Lil-BIG-Man
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Oh i see....that makes sense now. Thanks for explaining that guys.
TNH
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I've heard that works well as a bridge. I want to try it sometime, as long as it really isn't affecting the HPTA.gqbeez said:
gman67
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TNH said:
Even 10mg dbol will keep you shut down..
VDC
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The amount of 10mg of Dbol will cause very little suppression,,,Especially if you use it in the AM as the body expects some androgens in the system in the AM,,,I've used 200mg/wk of Primo with no or very little suppression,,,VDC
MINIMAL supression will occur even with 10mg in the morning, but minimal is still more than none. If you bridge, you do not give your body the chance to recover FULLY. Keywords here are in capitals.
Skywalk
Skywalk
Haggard
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skywalk said:
Would taking clomid or nolva help with the suppression or is there no need for the anti E??
Southernjuice
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Yes clomid with the d-bol bridge is very good and add some hcg and instead of suppression you can actually recover quite nicely on this.Haggard said:
Haggard
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Southernjuice said:
I have some clomid and nolva.....Ive been off my cycle for about 3 weeks and started taking clomid a week ago....Should I add the 10 mg/day of dbol?? What exactly would this do?? Just help keep strength gains and muscle gains...Or would it continue to add to your gains??
gman67
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skywalk said:
so true...
johnnybravo
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Another bridging question
Current in week 8 of 12 week cycle : 500 sust weekly 300 deca weekly, 200 cyp. weekly. Weeks 1 - 4 30 mg dbol. Weight up 17lbs. Novla 20mg ed. I would like to keep as much of my gains as possible, have novla and clomid to run post cycle maybe HCG ( any thoughts here ). Thinking of a light bridge and looking for recommendations. Didn't know if I should stay away from an oral because of the earlier dbol usage ( giving the liver a break ). If an oral is recommended suggestions on type, mg's and frequency. Side note: I have a supply of cyp . When should the bridge start and how long should it last, if I choose to go that route. Also plan on running a light cutting cycle during the summer ( at least twelve weeks from last shot ).
Thanks
Johnny Bravo
Current in week 8 of 12 week cycle : 500 sust weekly 300 deca weekly, 200 cyp. weekly. Weeks 1 - 4 30 mg dbol. Weight up 17lbs. Novla 20mg ed. I would like to keep as much of my gains as possible, have novla and clomid to run post cycle maybe HCG ( any thoughts here ). Thinking of a light bridge and looking for recommendations. Didn't know if I should stay away from an oral because of the earlier dbol usage ( giving the liver a break ). If an oral is recommended suggestions on type, mg's and frequency. Side note: I have a supply of cyp . When should the bridge start and how long should it last, if I choose to go that route. Also plan on running a light cutting cycle during the summer ( at least twelve weeks from last shot ).
Thanks
Johnny Bravo
Haggard said:
clomid and nolva encourage your body to return to a state of homeostasis. The whole point of pct is to try to get your body back to equilibrium....where NO DRUGS are needed, and where your body is still able to maintain a balance between anabolism and catabolism.
Why shoot yourself in the foot with ANY drugs for that matter, be it dbol or clomid/nolva??? I don't get it. On one hand, you want to recover. On the other hand, you're ingesting minute quantities of drugs that HAMPER your ability to make COMPLETE HPTA recovery. Sure you can argue that you want to try and counter catabolism to a certain degree, but let me ask you this: In the LONG RUN, is it worth it? Is it worth going on months and months of gear, bridging with milder steroids and thus preventing COMPLETE recovery????? Think about that.
Again, I stand by what I said; the only only only way to be 100% sure, is to get your bloodwork done! it's cheap, and it lets you know if you're on the right track. Anyone can tell you that you're fine with 10mg every morning or whatever they wanna say, but you're not them. You respond differently to gear and recovery cycles. There's absolutely no point in debating what dosages work, what drugs to use, how much clomid/nolva is effectice etc.... until you get your bloodwork done, and done regularly to monitor your progress.
Skywalk
Haggard
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Good post....Yeah id rather go and fully recover with clomid than to take chances....skywalk said:
Ummm... Clomid and Nolva encourage the body to produce endogenous testosterone due to their estrogenic nature. The body senses an excessive level of this female hormone type, and attempts to counter it via production of testosterone. This leads to faster HPTA recovery. I don't get your usage of homeostasis here, as the Clomid and Nolva are NOT encouraging homeostasis. They are encouraging a change toward normal HPTA recovery - not an unchanging state (which homeostasis is).skywalk said:
Clomid and Nolva also bind to estrogen receptors to block the binding of real estrogen (which is high post cycle), so that you don't grow boobies. I mean, I love boobies, but not on a 230lb man. Although Bam Margera's dad had a nice rack on his show Sunday night.
I agree that there are MUCH better ways to reduce cortisol levels than 10mg am DBOL. But some people are not ready for slin in the morning. And they are unaware that a good meal is just about as effective as the 10mg am dbol.
N4cer said:
my use of homeostasis was referring to a drug-free state, with no need for any drugs. In this state, the body's production of test, estrogen etc are back to normal levels. Thus, clomid and nolva are encouraging the body (which, post cycle has low to zero testosterone production) to start producing test again, so that it can return to it's original, drug-free state. (homeostasis)
sorry for the confusion.
Skywalk
BigLibby
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Haggard said:
You should def take an anti-e with clomid and nolvadex.... estrogen is your enemy
What I do AND It WORKS (been tested thought blood work)
If coming off a long acting ester drug wait about 18 days them start this
-10mg d-bol @8:00am ED (every important to take at the same time every
morning)
-1.5mg Arimidex ED
-First 2 weeks 80mg Nolvadex
next 6 weeks 20mg Nolvadex
-First 2 weeks 100mg clomid
next 6 weeks 50mg clomid
I've been off my last cycle for 10weeks NO BULL SHIT I've gained no fat and lost 1 to 2 pounds.... lost 1 rep on my 6 rep bench press... got it 5 times yesterday
Hope this helps.
Haggard
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BigLibby said:
Is 1.5 mg/day of Arimidex really necessary???
