180-190mg a week of Test Undeconoate(Goodlyfe)

[Rido]

@GoodLyfe

I want to say I am the first one to post this for his Test U.

I was one of the first people I Think advised him to brew it as there weren't many tested sources.

So I loaded up on this during a blast. I have been running it for 10+ weeks and I was 23 days out since my last Test C, and 5 days out from my last Test U.

If you are starting from scratch it may be best to either do it during a blast. or just load up 2x weekly of target dose for the first 2 weeks. Then continue weekly dose.

for target test U dose, might be 20% more than test C dose.

After I got the results I gave myself an extra 120mg of Test U and am upping my weekly test U To 220-230. I give a range because of extra oil that may be in the syringe.


e2 was 66. Assuming this was rebound from the blast.

 

[lukiss96]

Nice, thanks for the post.

for target test U dose, might be 20% more than test C dose.

Just to clarify, you mean we need 20% more testosterone undecanoate than cypionate? For example if I need 200mg cyp, I'd use 240mg undecanoate?

 

[Rido]

Nice, thanks for the post.


Just to clarify, you mean we need 20% more testosterone undecanoate than cypionate? For example if I need 200mg cyp, I'd use 240mg undecanoate?

That's what I am suspecting. According to the active hormone per mg you should need around 15 percent more

 

[lukiss96]

That's what I am suspecting. According to the active hormone per mg you should need around 15 percent more

According to pharmacy leaflet of Nebido and Sustanon. It says that nebido 250mg/ml is 157.5mg of actual testosterone. Sustanon says 250mg/ml is 176mg. It's in Italian, idk if that's true or not. No enanthate or cypionate in Europe pharmacy sold, so can't really compare much.

 

[Rido]

According to pharmacy leaflet of Nebido and Sustanon. It says that nebido 250mg/ml is 157.5mg of actual testosterone. Sustanon says 250mg/ml is 176mg. It's in Italian, idk if that's true or not. No enanthate or cypionate in Europe pharmacy sold, so can't really compare much.

Sustanon does have shorter esters in it too.

 

[lukiss96]

Sustanon does have shorter esters in it too.

Yes, maybe I made my point wrong. I was just saying that leaflet of Nebido says 157.5mg of esterless real testosterone is in 1ml which is 250mg/ml. I don't know how much enanthate or cypionate have esterless testosterone from 250mg.

 

[Rido]

Yes, maybe I made my point wrong. I was just saying that leaflet of Nebido says 157.5mg of esterless real testosterone is in 1ml which is 250mg/ml. I don't know how much enanthate or cypionate have esterless testosterone from 250mg.

Testosterones

Testosterone Base: 100mg

Testosterone Acetate: 83mg

Testosterone Propionate: 80mg

Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg

Testosterone Enanthate: 70mg

Testosterone Cypionate: 69mg

Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg

Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg

Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

 

[GoodLyfe]

@GoodLyfe

I want to say I am the first one to post this for his Test U.

I was one of the first people I Think advised him to brew it as there weren't many tested sources.

So I loaded up on this during a blast. I have been running it for 10+ weeks and I was 23 days out since my last Test C, and 5 days out from my last Test U.

If you are starting from scratch it may be best to either do it during a blast. or just load up 2x weekly of target dose for the first 2 weeks. Then continue weekly dose.

for target test U dose, might be 20% more than test C dose.

After I got the results I gave myself an extra 120mg of Test U and am upping my weekly test U To 220-230. I give a range because of extra oil that may be in the syringe.


e2 was 66. Assuming this was rebound from the blast.

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Thank you for this

 

[HB_22]

Is this TRT? Lipids could be a lot better. Triglyceride super high. Other than that results look good.

 

[Rido]

Is this TRT? Lipids could be a lot better. Triglyceride super high. Other than that results look good.

this is 5 weeks post blast. the HDL/LDL ratio is actually pretty on point, which is the more important thing

in regards to the triglycerides. I dont know how great of a fast either as this was, I think I ate 6 hours prior.

 

[SkankHunt]

Good stuff bro. I’m on 200mg once per week now. I’m going to give it another 3 weeks and get bloods to see where I’m at.

 

[ar7353]

Are you pinning once per week? You sticking with that pinning schedule or pushing it out further at all?

I'm interested in trying to incorporate Test U around some extended field training in the future where I either won’t be able to pin regularly or won’t be in a sterile environment as often as normal pinning schedules would require.

Thanks for this! Interesting stuff!

 

[Rido]

Are you pinning once per week? You sticking with that pinning schedule or pushing it out further at all?

I'm interested in trying to incorporate Test U around some extended field training in the future where I either won’t be able to pin regularly or won’t be in a sterile environment as often as normal pinning schedules would require.

Thanks for this! Interesting stuff!

I am doing once a week. Actually increased the dose to 250mg a week. I will retest this in maybe 8 weeks?

I feel alot better now at this dose(I had to load).


I have also contemplated every 10 days or even every 2 weeks.

 

[lukiss96]

I am doing once a week. Actually increased the dose to 250mg a week. I will retest this in maybe 8 weeks?

I feel alot better now at this dose(I had to load).

Used to do this, first time went to cruise felt that it's not enough increased to 250 then 300 and then straight to 500 lol...

I learned you need time to psychologically get used to lower dose and in about couple of months you feel way better than you ever felt on true trt dose.

Given your stats you could easily maintain that with 125mg or so. I cruised on 150mg for some time (more than half a year at one point) and was able to hold 220lbs with pretty much same leanness as right now. I could have even maintained like 5 or so pounds more if really did put my heart in to it.

P.S. you do you, this is forum, I just commented on the subject and remembered I was in similar situation sometime ago.

 

[Rido]

Used to do this, first time went to cruise felt that it's not enough increased to 250 then 300 and then straight to 500 lol...

I learned you need time to psychologically get used to lower dose and in about couple of months you feel way better than you ever felt on true trt dose.

Given your stats you could easily maintain that with 125mg or so. I cruised on 150mg for some time (more than half a year at one point) and was able to hold 220lbs with pretty much same leanness as right now. I could have even maintained like 5 or so pounds more if really did put my heart in to it.

P.S. you do you, this is forum, I just commented on the subject and remembered I was in similar situation sometime ago.

Yea. It's just cause it's test U. Little harder to titrate. I feel a lot better mentally now. I don't even feel great mentally on a blast as other people do.

 

[Jin23]

I feel a lot better mentally now. I don't even feel great mentally on a blast as other people do.

I'm in 3rd week of pct with 12.5mg enclom, after 10months being on, and I feel mentally better then on "cycle". Physically, sure, don't feel to great, but mentally, much better.

Tnx for the results. Was interested in how test u reflects on bloods.

E2 has a 3 day serum half life, so idk why it would be elevated from the cycle which was how many weeks ago? Your E2 seems elevated from the high free testosterone, which is still far out from natty range.

 

[lukiss96]

Yea. It's just cause it's test U. Little harder to titrate. I feel a lot better mentally now. I don't even feel great mentally on a blast as other people do.

Yeah, takes a while to get to the desired dose. After that it's probably the best test to cruise on.

Feeling good has a lot to do with compounds of choice. For example dbol is good feeling steroid while deca is depressing. Obviuosly everyone is different, but more often than not it is true.

 

[Jin23]

Feeling good has a lot to do with compounds of choice. For example dbol is good feeling steroid while deca is depressing. Obviuosly everyone is different, but more often than not it is true.

No, this is far from being the only factor, yet alone the most important one, but non the less, still important ofc.

Total androgen load, or maybe a better term; total androgen signaling (as different androgens have different binding affinities), is what's going to determine your response to aas. But it's not so simple, as we all have varying neurobiology's, and thus, will react differently. Somebody with an already elevated dopamine signaling in the striatum (SCZ neurotype) wont react the same then somebody who has low dopamine signaling there. And an appropriate dose might make somebody more calm and improve their executive function, but a larger dose will do the opposite. Aas follow an inverted U shape response curve. This is a know fact. So, again, the "dose" is very much what's is going to determine your response, at least if we look at the dosages inside the same aas paradigm (progestins - dht's, etc ...). A 50mg tren dose might do you good, but a 150 wont, or you might not be able to tolerate it at all, even at 25mg, ... ofc that is also an option, but at that point it's not going to be about absolute tolerability, but rather, about making you worse, in a general sense, then you were without it. So no sense in using it.

In any case, aas are mostly bad for cognition (in terms of IQ). Exception being; going from a hypogonadal state - to normal physiological levels.

 

[lukiss96]

No, this is far from being the only factor, yet alone the most important one, but non the less, still important ofc.

Total androgen load, or maybe a better term; total androgen signaling (as different androgens have different binding affinities), is what's going to determine your response to aas. But it's not so simple, as we all have varying neurobiology's, and thus, will react differently. Somebody with an already elevated dopamine signaling in the striatum (SCZ neurotype) wont react the same then somebody who has low dopamine signaling there. And an appropriate dose might make somebody more calm and improve their executive function, but a larger dose will do the opposite. Aas follow an inverted U shape response curve. This is a know fact. So, again, the "dose" is very much what's is going to determine your response, at least if we look at the dosages inside the same aas paradigm (progestins - dht's, etc ...). A 50mg tren dose might do you good, but a 150 wont, or you might not be able to tolerate it at all, even at 25mg, ... ofc that is also an option, but at that point it's not going to be about absolute tolerability, but rather, about making you worse, in a general sense, then you were without it. So no sense in using it.

In any case, aas are mostly bad for cognition (in terms of IQ). Exception being; going from a hypogonadal state - to normal physiological levels.

I always say true trt dose of testosterone is the best when it comes to feeling good and being optimal. Just as having naturally high normal testosterone.

I'm talking in general when it comes to steroids there are few that make you feel good like dbol for me and many others. While tren and dhts cause too much aggression. High testo is also uncomfortable.

I don't know how these thing work like perhaps you do, I only talk from my own and other people that I have talked to experience. We must keep in mind everyone is different and some can't even handle 300mg testosterone well. But at the end of the day real trt or being natural is the most optimal and healthiest way.

 

[Jin23]

I always say true trt dose of testosterone is the best when it comes to feeling good and being optimal. Just as having naturally high normal testosterone.

I'm talking in general when it comes to steroids there are few that make you feel good like dbol for me and many others. While tren and dhts cause too much aggression. High testo is also uncomfortable.

I don't know how these thing work like perhaps you do, I only talk from my own and other people that I have talked to experience. We must keep in mind everyone is different and some can't even handle 300mg testosterone well. But at the end of the day real trt or being natural is the most optimal and healthiest way.

I see now, that I've mistook your usage of the term "feeling good". Apologies for being a smart ass.

Yes, "feeling good" as you describe it, the sense of high endorphins, dopamine and serotonin, or what ever gets upregulated by dbol, is definitely a different discourse to what I had in mind. My "feeling good" was more in line off mental stability, lucidity and the feeling of being my self again ...