1st cycle program

[owen]

i`m going to start up this 10 week cycleb to put on about 10-15lbs and keep a good portion of it. this is going to be my first cycle.

deca 200mg/week
test propionate 250mg/week
nolvadex 20mg/day from week 3 - 8
clomid 50mg/day from week 8 - 10

i would like your comments about side effects that i would face and if its better to start nolvadex and clomid as post cycles

 

[crewboss]

Pretty much off on most of this cycle. First I would not use prop with deca for the whole cycle and prop at 250 mg ew is low. You can start the first two weeks with the prop at 75 md ED OR 150 eod, along with cypionat or enanthate at 400 mg EW. along with the deca at 300 mg EW. 200 mg of deca is ok and do-able, so you can try it and see how it works for you. I would not use nolva or clomid thru the cycle unless needed for gyno sypmtoms. I suggest arimidex or femara. Keep the nolva and clomid for pct. I see more people using 20 mg of novla ed for pct with hcg, instead of clomid. IMO

As far as sides, that depends on you. I get bloat (water retention, that is where arimidex or femara come into play) and your body will shut down in week two or three. You may get some acne from the test and your testicles will atrophy. All of this is in the anabolic profiles or the other articles shown on this board. Take time to read them. Also as an ending, your bp will rise and your prostate could become enlarged (for some people)

listen to karch. your test/deca is pretty much 1 to 1. you need to up the test and include a test w/ a longer 1/2 life. if you drop the prop & deca in week 12 you'll still have 2 weeks active deca. not good. if all you have is prop and you don't have access to cyp or enanth, why not drop the deca all together? test-only at 500-750mg/wk for 1st cycle is fine..