20 weeks test??

[DonkeyKong]

My friend wants a simple cycle but he wants to stay on to long
IMO.Heres what he ran buy me.
Weeks 1-4 50mg dbol or Anadrol
Weeks1-10-400mg deca
weeks 1-20 500mg sustanon.
I told him hes better off running 1000mg sust for 10 weeks
but he says it wont make a diffrence and wants to be on longer.
Hows this for a dudes 3rd cycle?His first 2 were 10 weeks of test@500
no clomid or hcg.Also with the above cycle would should he as far as
clomid or hcg.I didnt know what to tell him but I told him Id come online and
get some opinions.I think it looks pretty good but 20 weeks would def. shutdown
his natural test levels prertty hard.

 

[a_free_man]

My friend wants a simple cycle but he wants to stay on to long
IMO.Heres what he ran buy me.
Weeks 1-4 50mg dbol or Anadrol
Weeks1-10-400mg deca
weeks 1-20 500mg sustanon.
I told him hes better off running 1000mg sust for 10 weeks
but he says it wont make a diffrence and wants to be on longer.
Hows this for a dudes 3rd cycle?His first 2 were 10 weeks of test@500
no clomid or hcg.Also with the above cycle would should he as far as
clomid or hcg.I didnt know what to tell him but I told him Id come online and
get some opinions.I think it looks pretty good but 20 weeks would def. shutdown
his natural test levels prertty hard.

I'd actually agree with you... would probably get better results from the gram of sust for 10 weeks. He should at least consider doing 750mg/w rather than the 500mg for 20 weeks. And you're also right in that he should pick up some clomid... it's just too cheap/easy to obtain to leave it out of your pct.

Instead of trying to stay on for longer amounts of time, your friend should pay more attention to keeping the gains he does make. Which does it make more sense to do...???... gain 10-12 pounds for 20 weeks, then lose 4, or gain 20 pounds over 12 weeks and lose a few.

Ah well, let him do whatever he wants.. it's his juice and his money. You tried to steer him right, but sometimes people have to figure shit out for themselves.

-FreeMan

 

[Silverback]

My friend wants a simple cycle but he wants to stay on to long
IMO.Heres what he ran buy me.
Weeks 1-4 50mg dbol or Anadrol
Weeks1-10-400mg deca
weeks 1-20 500mg sustanon.
I told him hes better off running 1000mg sust for 10 weeks
but he says it wont make a diffrence and wants to be on longer.
Hows this for a dudes 3rd cycle?His first 2 were 10 weeks of test@500
no clomid or hcg.Also with the above cycle would should he as far as
clomid or hcg.I didnt know what to tell him but I told him Id come online and
get some opinions.I think it looks pretty good but 20 weeks would def. shutdown
his natural test levels prertty hard.

It would help to know your friends stats--but

I would say a gram of test is pretty high for his 3rd cycle---I havent even used that much yet and I have way more than 2 cycles done----I would personally not use sustanon as I prefer test enanthate.

Also I personally like longer cycles....but why doesnt he just run this and split the difference
Week 1-4 50mg dbol
Week 1-13 deca 400mg
Week 1-15 sustanon 500-625mg
Run arimidex at .25-.50 EOD
PCT--clomid, clen, creatine

10 weeks on test is not that much different than 15 --the deca is the only problem-- He could maybe switch to eq at 400-600mg and then it would be better for that amount of time

hope this helps

 

[joe shmoe]

i would definately add in clomid/hCG for PCT!!!

20 weeks is a long time. i would run the first 10 weeks of sust @ 500mg/wk, and the last 5 @750.

as silverback said...1000mg/wk is ALOT!

have a nice day