Deacon
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For those who have heard me mention this cycle I will now let you in on some things I have found out about myself and the drugs I used.
review of the cycle;
weeks 1-6 d-bol 40 mgs ed
weeks 1-23 test cyp 600 mgs per week
weeks 1-10 tren E 500 mgs per week
weeks 1-10 EQ 400 mgs per week
weeks 10-23 EQ 600 mgs per week
weeks 10-23 deca 600 mgs per week
this was the original cycle plan. Weight starting 175 after a bout of walking pneumonia and bronchitis.
ending weight 200-205 very lean gains very little extra bf or noticed water retention.
Weights very heavy on all workouts for mass bulking. Protein 1.5 -2gms per pound of bw. Carbs 3X the amount of protein. All of the calories I could possibly add.
So here are some things that happened.
The 10 weeks on the tren was killer - 15-17 pounds of lean mass added without bloat while losing extra body fat. Lost a belt size on the waist area.
At week 10 tren is dropped and deca added while EQ is bumped up to 600 from 400mgs per week.
Also at week 11 I come into possession of some Anadrol and start using 100 mgs ed until week 16.
I had stalled at 190- 195 bw but now shoot up to 200 quickly. Strength again goes up and training is simply awesome every workout.
Week 21 - I go to the doctor and get diagnosed with severe hypertension and high blood pressure. Get put on medication.
After talking with Liftsiron I drop the deca and EQ and follow up the last two weeks of the cycle with test only. (Two weeks later BP drops dramatically)
I now have been off for one week and have started HCG 500 ius ed plus Tribex (which I really like BTW) - next week I will begin both clomid and nolva.
100mgs clomid and 40 mgs nolva for 14 days followed by 50 mgs clomid and 20 mgs nolva.
I ran HCG several times staggered during the cycle and really did not notice much difference except I seemed to feel better when running it.
I have found 400 mgs per week of EQ works best for me and see no added results by bumping it up higher. (Also have several buddies who feel the same way - claiming 400-500 mgs is best for them also)
I love tren and will run it more often probably the next cycle next year. I plan to be off at least 5-6 months but will run M-1-T for 4 weeks in November.
I also feel adding the drols mid cycle helped me through that lull I often feel in longer cycles and may do that again in the future. However next time I would run the deca and drols the first part of this cycle and then run d-bol and tren at the end.
I also suspect that runnijng the EQ and deca together kept me from bloating - but that is just a guess - for sure I had no deca bloat at all.
Now my mission is to maintain what I gained.
So there it is - a lot of good gains but it was a long 23 weeks.
review of the cycle;
weeks 1-6 d-bol 40 mgs ed
weeks 1-23 test cyp 600 mgs per week
weeks 1-10 tren E 500 mgs per week
weeks 1-10 EQ 400 mgs per week
weeks 10-23 EQ 600 mgs per week
weeks 10-23 deca 600 mgs per week
this was the original cycle plan. Weight starting 175 after a bout of walking pneumonia and bronchitis.
ending weight 200-205 very lean gains very little extra bf or noticed water retention.
Weights very heavy on all workouts for mass bulking. Protein 1.5 -2gms per pound of bw. Carbs 3X the amount of protein. All of the calories I could possibly add.
So here are some things that happened.
The 10 weeks on the tren was killer - 15-17 pounds of lean mass added without bloat while losing extra body fat. Lost a belt size on the waist area.
At week 10 tren is dropped and deca added while EQ is bumped up to 600 from 400mgs per week.
Also at week 11 I come into possession of some Anadrol and start using 100 mgs ed until week 16.
I had stalled at 190- 195 bw but now shoot up to 200 quickly. Strength again goes up and training is simply awesome every workout.
Week 21 - I go to the doctor and get diagnosed with severe hypertension and high blood pressure. Get put on medication.
After talking with Liftsiron I drop the deca and EQ and follow up the last two weeks of the cycle with test only. (Two weeks later BP drops dramatically)
I now have been off for one week and have started HCG 500 ius ed plus Tribex (which I really like BTW) - next week I will begin both clomid and nolva.
100mgs clomid and 40 mgs nolva for 14 days followed by 50 mgs clomid and 20 mgs nolva.
I ran HCG several times staggered during the cycle and really did not notice much difference except I seemed to feel better when running it.
I have found 400 mgs per week of EQ works best for me and see no added results by bumping it up higher. (Also have several buddies who feel the same way - claiming 400-500 mgs is best for them also)
I love tren and will run it more often probably the next cycle next year. I plan to be off at least 5-6 months but will run M-1-T for 4 weeks in November.
I also feel adding the drols mid cycle helped me through that lull I often feel in longer cycles and may do that again in the future. However next time I would run the deca and drols the first part of this cycle and then run d-bol and tren at the end.
I also suspect that runnijng the EQ and deca together kept me from bloating - but that is just a guess - for sure I had no deca bloat at all.
Now my mission is to maintain what I gained.
So there it is - a lot of good gains but it was a long 23 weeks.
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