25 guage pins recommendation

frank1234

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I have been in this for around 6 months now and have been using 23 guage needles..Today I tried the 25 guage ones and it was MUCH MUCH better.
I simply heated the oil and drew with the 23 guage and switched to the 25 guage. It is like night and day !
 
I use 25 gauge for delts and quad shots, the only think I don't like is that the actual injection takes longer, but I definanlty prefer the 25's to the 23's.
 
I'm lazy, I just put the bottle of oil in a baggie, then the baggie in hot water for a few minutes, draw with a 25, and shoot with it. Takes a long time to draw, and you have to make sure you pump in a couple cc's of air first, but it works. Takes maybe a minute and a half to draw 2 cc's.

It's really hard to get pins where I live.


frank1234 said:
I have been in this for around 6 months now and have been using 23 guage needles..Today I tried the 25 guage ones and it was MUCH MUCH better.
I simply heated the oil and drew with the 23 guage and switched to the 25 guage. It is like night and day !
 
I've always used 25G, once I was in a pinch and had to use a 23G and was like I'll never use nothing but 25G again...
 
I ran out of my 23g pins before and had to use 20g 1.5" drawing pin before for a few injects.
Felt like I had a BIC inkpen in my ass.

I may have been violated.:eek:
 
brooklynheight said:

i used 23's for everything...too much trouble to have all those different sizes.anyway i cant tell the difference between them.

maxx
 
Small ziplock bag, probably slightly bigger than an 8ball bag, called a baggie.

But why keep heating up the whole vial. Just suck the oil into the syringe, recap it, then run it under hot water for a few mins, then inject.

You may degrade your product if you keep doing that. It does say: "Store at room temp" on pharmacutical products.


brooklynheight said:
 
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Heh heh... THAT's got to be uncomfortable!

Why do guys all take in in the cheeks, I just do the top of my thigh where there aren't any nerves, never feel anything (right below the hip bone, down maybe 3 or so inches, over to the right 3 inches, just where the meat begins after the tendon connection to the hip... literally, there are no nerves there).

Is it cause I only inject once a week, and a lot of guys do EOD? That makes sense... but then I never get the golfball syndrome, maybe cause I'm using a test with only 50 prop, and 200... err... oh oh... well, something else (my face is red). But prop is the one I think that gives guys the reaction.




BigDrip said:
I ran out of my 23g pins before and had to use 20g 1.5" drawing pin before for a few injects.
Felt like I had a BIC inkpen in my ass.

I may have been violated.:eek:
 
i can't believe i have been using 23's all these years and bitchin about the pain and never thought to use 25's.
Use the 18's to draw up makes it very easy.
 
dzl66 said:
i can't believe i have been using 23's all these years and bitchin about the pain and never thought to use 25's.
Use the 18's to draw up makes it very easy.

I guess that none of you guys accept the observation that "Using higher gauge (thinner) needle may cause more trauma because they have a narrow bore producing a jet under higher pressure."

"Needle length and gauge: The selection of length of the needle depends upon the age of the child, the size of the muscle and SC mass over the muscle. For VL needles of 16 mm, 22 mm or 25 mm, for deltoid 16 to 32 mm and for VG 25 to 38 mm length are used. It has been found that longer needle with the same gauge was associated with significant reduction in redness and swelling following routine immunisation(30). It is because medication is sure in the muscle. For general biologicals and medications in aqueous solution, 23 g to 27 g and for viscous and oil based medication, 18 g to 23 g needle is used. Using higher gauge (thinner) needle may cause more trauma because they have a narrow bore producing a jet under higher pressure. So for immunisation 23 g needle is preferred over 25 g(30)."
 
I can now injest Tren Acetate everysingle day with the 25 gauge needle
I simply draw with the 23 guage and SLOWLY inject with the 25 gauge.
Trust me , the pain is 1/2 the amount of a 23or 22 guage. Less bruising also
 
Too many wuss's scared of a tid pid of a poke. 23g's are small and work great for all around.

It takes me 3-4 mins sometimes the push 3c's of oil through a 25g.

Maybe I'm just not using enough oil and I'm too weak to push hard enough.:D
 
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