3g of Test-E only for 30 weeks - Less sides, less health risks, and highly anabolic. Worth it?

[DugPrime]

Greetings,

I'm seeking an potent anabolic cycle tailored for bulking, exclusively relying on testosterone without incorporating any other AAs. Testosterone is extremely cheap, giving the best mental feelings, can be ran for a longer time, and it's the most studied compound, we do know the short & long term sides-effects (and health risks).

Nandrolone is only slightly more anabolic than testosterone, and as it's really liked for bulking, I guessed that instead of using it again (since I got sides from hell) it would be interesting to run a copious amount of testosterone, because I still want to put my body to the next level and be on stage (my goal is being a IFBB PRO), but without having to run any other AAs (and orals too).

So I would like to know, will I have a strong anabolic rate with 3g, or am I getting diminishing results after a certain amount, and then I should run it at a maximum dosage, and incorporate primobolan with it? I pay the exactly same amount (HCG, Syringes, BP/Cholesterol meds, etc.. included) for :

• 1g Test + 500mg Primo
  or
• 3g Test only

Which one would give me an higher muscle building rate? Or if you have a better idea (based on studies, or real knowledge, not bro-science) and have similar blasts to advice (example : 250 primo w/ 1250 test) let me know.
Thanks in advance, have a good day. By the way, english is not my primary language, so my grammar is probably fucked up, don't mind about that.

 

[awolf472]

3 grams test, would give more negative sides. I would think.

 

[DugPrime]

3 grams test, would give more negative sides. I would think.

Yeah, I will certainly get bloat, and/or back pumps, but it shouldn't give me lethargy or insomnia with a good e2 control, which is not actually the case with some other AAs.

 

[TRENdy07]

I’d go with test and primo and check blood labs. 1000 test/800-1000 primo hardly moved any of my markers and was the best cycle I’ve ever done. Estrogen was a little on the low side so if you wanted to do something in the 3g territory, I’d go 2g test and 1g primo and see how you do.

 

[eery]

How can you legitimately compare 3000mg vs 1500mg of total gear? more would equal more, of the good and bad.


anecdotally, the sweetspot for most people with test looks to be 750-1500mg but experiment for yourself and see how your reponse is.

 

[DugPrime]

How can you legitimately compare 3000mg vs 1500mg of total gear? more would equal more, of the good and bad.


anecdotally, the sweetspot for most people with test looks to be 750-1500mg but experiment for yourself and see how your reponse is.

Because of different compounds, and diminishing returns, imo dosages and not the only variable that we should care of.

 

[DugPrime]

I’d go with test and primo and check blood labs. 1000 test/800-1000 primo hardly moved any of my markers and was the best cycle I’ve ever done. Estrogen was a little on the low side so if you wanted to do something in the 3g territory, I’d go 2g test and 1g primo and see how you do.

I wish I could go with 2g test and 1g primo, but that's extremely out of my budget unfortunately.

 

[lukiss96]

To blast this much Testosterone for that long and to not expect crazy side effects and possible health consequences is just recklesness.

Testosterone is best, don't get me wrong, but everything has it's limits.

I have tried very high dosages in the past, but for me I don't ever want to use more than 1000mg of T again. That's the limit I think most people will never need to push to.

 

[DugPrime]

To blast this much Testosterone for that long and to not expect crazy side effects and possible health consequences is just recklesness.

Testosterone is best, don't get me wrong, but everything has it's limits.

I have tried very high dosages in the past, but for me I don't ever want to use more than 1000mg of T again. That's the limit I think most people will never need to push to.

You're right. What I will do next blast is 500 primo with 1g test.

 

[DECLAN]

Greetings,

I'm seeking an potent anabolic cycle tailored for bulking, exclusively relying on testosterone without incorporating any other AAs. Testosterone is extremely cheap, giving the best mental feelings, can be ran for a longer time, and it's the most studied compound, we do know the short & long term sides-effects (and health risks).

Nandrolone is only slightly more anabolic than testosterone, and as it's really liked for bulking, I guessed that instead of using it again (since I got sides from hell) it would be interesting to run a copious amount of testosterone, because I still want to put my body to the next level and be on stage (my goal is being a IFBB PRO), but without having to run any other AAs (and orals too).

So I would like to know, will I have a strong anabolic rate with 3g, or am I getting diminishing results after a certain amount, and then I should run it at a maximum dosage, and incorporate primobolan with it? I pay the exactly same amount (HCG, Syringes, BP/Cholesterol meds, etc.. included) for :

• 1g Test + 500mg Primo
  or
• 3g Test only

Which one would give me an higher muscle building rate? Or if you have a better idea (based on studies, or real knowledge, not bro-science) and have similar blasts to advice (example : 250 primo w/ 1250 test) let me know.
Thanks in advance, have a good day. By the way, english is not my primary language, so my grammar is probably fucked up, don't mind about that.

Can you post pics, curious on what level of physique you have achieved before jumping on 1g test.

 

[narta]

Can you post pics, curious on what level of physique you have achieved before jumping on 1g test.

Second that

 

[lukiss96]

Second that

Third that, although most people won't for an obvious reason.

 

[Disarmer]

but it shouldn't give me lethargy or insomnia

The lethargy will come from an the insomnia.

Also, I'd like to see pics pics as well, you must look like a Greek God already to be asking this question

 

[eery]

The lethargy will come from an the insomnia.

Also, I'd like to see pics pics as well, you must look like a Greek God already to be asking this question

Its usually the opposite, that you look like shit, dont respond well or people that use drugs as a crutch so they go for high dose experiments like this.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

If you were absolutely sold on using 3g, a cocktail totaling 3g will be better for growth and side effects than using just 3g test. End of story. If all we needed was test and we could safely and happily do that, the biggest guys on the planet would only use test.

 

[Jiobani]

Highest I did was 2 grams a week, but didn't run longer than 10 weeks.
It is nice, felt good, but you start to look like a michelin man after a while. Appetite was definitely not good too.
I don't see any benefits when comparing it with 1g of test.

Personally, lower dosage of different compounds + food work better than very high dosages of 1 compound. I've done multiple high dose cycles because " fuck it lets try it", and it never turns out good. Too many sides and I always quit earlier than planned. I always look my best and make progress on less than 1G of multiple compounds together.
You need to be a position to train well and eat well. Usually, high drugs don't benefit this. Injury prone, appetite is dead, sleep is dead etc.

My advise, take 2-3 compounds at lower dosage and run it for 14-16 weeks, cruise, reset and go again, repeat for 2-3 times. Dont get fat.
Quality muscle building takes time, it can't be done with a short cut in half a year, unless you're a genetic god.

 

[bigcheeze]

If you were absolutely sold on using 3g, a cocktail totaling 3g will be better for growth and side effects than using just 3g test. End of story. If all we needed was test and we could safely and happily do that, the biggest guys on the planet would only use test.

What's dangerous about solely 3g tesr vs 3g of multiple compounds? Testosterone will increase BP at 3g obviously. Not much else as far as dangers. With 3g multiple compounds I'd think BP would be higher and more sides than just one compound. Most people use test, a 19nor, and a oral. Plus it's much much easy to sleep and eat on only testosterone.

I'd imagine JUST the oral would make lipids worse than just testosterone

 

[Jiobani]

What's dangerous about solely 3g tesr vs 3g of multiple compounds? Testosterone will increase BP at 3g obviously. Not much else as far as dangers. With 3g multiple compounds I'd think BP would be higher and more sides than just one compound. Most people use test, a 19nor, and a oral. Plus it's much much easy to sleep and eat on only testosterone.

I'd imagine JUST the oral would make lipids worse than just testosterone

Because there are different types of steroids that work well together. 1+1+1=5 in that case.

 

[bigcheeze]

Because there are different types of steroids that work well together. 1+1+1=5 in that case.

That's not what I asked. What combination with a total of 3g per week is safer and healthier than solely testosterone

 

[Jiobani]

That's not what I asked. What combination with a total of 3g per week is safer and healthier than solely testosterone

Right, I misread, sorry for that.

I agree on that. At 3g the word "safe" shouldn't even be included anymore lol. Once you get there it is just plain and simple abusing steroids.